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9 hours ago, Kamen Rider said:

They won’t rename 125th, the SAS platform will just have its own name, probably including Harlem stuck on it.

Maybe they will think ahead and give it a crosstown friendly name, given that they did entertain the idea of going all the way across 125 Street.

They can pay to replace signs once, or they can pay to replace them twice. (And one more time when the comes around.)

3 hours ago, ABCDEFGJLMNQRSSSWZ said:

Does anyone know what software MTA uses to create their subway map PDF? I was tried several PDF editors but they all struggled to recognize certain elements of the official NYC subway map.

PDFs were not made to be editable other than those produced by Adobe Illustrator which deliberately embed enough information to enable lossless editing.

The PDFs you find floating around are almost always “finalized” by subsetting fonts, flattening shapes, clipping invisible parts of objects, and/or encryption.

That said, when I was editing the MTA map many years ago, the greatest difficulty I ran into was finding substitute fonts for the text and letter bullets. The lines themselves are fairly easy to manipulate but cutting, changing colors, and/or creating parallel lines (i.e., to add your own fantasy route running with an existing differently colored route).

On 5/27/2023 at 4:08 AM, Wallyhorse said:

Rails do break and often have to be replaced at very inconvenient times.  And it takes time to properly replace such rail.

The alternative might be to replace it in a jiffy and have the shoddy work cause another rail break much sooner. 
a.k.a., get me moving now, and to hell with planning for the future.

The MTA has flirted with using magnetic portabarriers that snap on tunnel track partitioning walls to isolate track workers from active tracks. If that were viable, then that would minimize the need to shut down sections of trunk lines where there are three or more tracks.

23 hours ago, ABCDEFGJLMNQRSSSWZ said:

a lot of folks in NYC forget that most transit systems in the world don't have night service at all or will just run a few of their core lines

A lot of people are poor: like 80% (c.f., Pareto Principle). Most of the world lack basic infrastructure that we take for granted (e.g., roads). A lot of folks in Japan also forget that the rest of the world is quite happy with the residue left by using just toilet paper instead of properly rinsing with a bidet.

IMHO, the answer isn’t to lower your standards because nobody else is doing better.

On 5/24/2023 at 12:35 AM, Kamen Rider said:

This is how they roll… especially Wally who can’t seem to help himself.

If the website could somehow administer electric shocks for such posts, you would still see such posts.

On 5/22/2023 at 12:47 AM, Wallyhorse said:

if possible

🗺️👀… 🤣

11 hours ago, Reptile said:

Would the run via 53rd street and QBL local in this? That would also divvy up the local 3 ways

The  is simply the other .

If the 2 Avenue tracks were to connect to Fulton Street tracks in Brooklyn, then one idea that ought to be considered is getting rid of the stupid merge at Canal Street. Because then Queens Boulevard trains have a third way get to Fulton Street—via 63 Street and 2 Avenue.

• Queens Boulevard express gets divvied up three ways, with a via 63 Street and 2 Avenue to Fulton Street
• World Trade Center terminal station serving both and trains
• Fulton Street serving local and / express

There is no loss of overall TPH from Queens Boulevard express, though the distribution of service is reduced for 6 Avenue and 8 Avenue to make room for 2 Avenue service.

The three merges at Canal Street and Hoyt–Schermerhorn Streets are eliminated.

Both Queens Boulevard and Fulton Street can cover more of Manhattan.

On 5/18/2023 at 9:26 PM, Wallyhorse said:

The only way I can see the M15 being deleted (or cut back at all) is if we ever have BOTH a full SAS AND a fully rebuilt 3rd Avenue EL that would between them take enough traffic off the M15 to warrant cutting the M15 back.  THAT is how busy the M15 is.

How do you explain the M20? It tracks the 7 and 8 Avenue lines from Fi-Di to Columbus Circle.

On 5/9/2023 at 12:53 AM, Vulturious said:

There's a lot more, but I think you get the gist. I would continue, but I can't in this subforum because of the emote limit in here.

How could you leave out the most duplicitous of them all? Physically separate, identical names, and no disambiguating suffix!

• 23 Street: Lexington Avenue ; Broadway ; 6 Avenue ; 7 Avenue ; 8 Avenue
• 86 Street: Lexington Avenue ; 2 Avenue ; 4 Avenue ; 7 Avenue ; Central Park West ; Sea Beach
  • What’s more, the stop at an 86 Street twice on some trips.

The royalty of duplicates names. Every train must kiss the hand of 23 Street and 86 Street.

I imagine 23 Street shares the crown if the ever gets extended down there and they don’t try to give it a suffix like 23 Street–Chelsea.

9 hours ago, Lex said:

And make it harder to clearly identify if the train is running local or express before it finishes pulling into a station?

If there is no route distinction to make, then the only distinction they could make is express versus local. Why not simply ◆ (express) versus ● (local) with no letter inside?

On 5/2/2023 at 11:22 PM, T to Dyre Avenue said:

Yeah, looking back on what I wrote, I think a  extension is probably the best for extending an existing line to Utica. You’d be able to provide more frequent service that way, even it is with smaller trains. 

This is true. Even with an extended  replacing the , if the  is in turn extended to Utica, you still have the issues with a bifurcated . While I don’t think this is necessarily a dealbreaker for a  extension, it still won’t be able to run as frequently as a  extension from Eastern Pkwy. But I don’t think a Utica line should be a one-borough glorified shuttle that terminates at Fulton St or Myrtle Ave.

But it should also be built to B Division widths as to avoid locking the branch to the A Division forever.

On 4/23/2023 at 10:30 PM, ABCDEFGJLMNQRSSSWZ said:

Another important thing to remember is that the MTA itself is in the business of making the trains run good,

I lol’d right there.

On 4/25/2023 at 7:00 PM, Kamen Rider said:

As for rebuilding the shuttle, that servers NO purpose so I don't know why you keep bringing it up. completely rebuilding it to a standard it NEVER was built for on the off chance it MIGHT be needed.

Yeah. This shuttle’s current state is a quirk of history and politics. Maybe when the city is flush with money and some politician from the area wants to champion the cause like they did when the shuttle was about to be demolished for good.

This segment of the Brighton having construction work and being cut off from Manhattan is a frequent enough occurrence—so much so that it factors into my consideration for getting a home along the line.

Doesn’t look like a Broadway line thread no more now, eh?

5 hours ago, ABCDEFGJLMNQRSSSWZ said:

They’re going ahead with seizing 9 more properties

That’s fine and dandy for 2 Avenue, but Astoria is untouchable.

On 4/17/2023 at 5:04 PM, LGA Link N Train said:

So I noticed something interesting while drawing 125-Lex’s Track Layout. 
 

Tracks 1 and 4, coming from Lexington Local point towards Jerome Avenue whereas Tracks 2 and 3 are coming from Pelham point towards the Lexington Express Tracks. Yet  and  Trains run express coming from Tracks 1/4 in the Bronx whereas the  Run Local coming from tracks 2/3 in Pelham. Was the service patterns at Lexington. (Not counting the Switches and the junction in that area, did the IRT intend for this to be the case or was there a different Service pattern in that junction when Lexington (north of 42nd) was built?

Could be an accident of history. Look at the 63 Street link to Queens Boulevard and tell me if you’d believe this was intended for use by express trains if you had only the track layout to go on. The straight rail—path of least resistance—is to run local service to 63 Street. Maybe that was really the intention when the plans were drawn up to make that connection, but almost certainly, this was done so to minimize excavation on either side of Northern Boulevard.

What we are also sure about is that Dyre Avenue was supposed to be served by local trains from the lower half of White Plains Road. Ditto for the short segment from West 8 Street to Brighton Beach. Ditto for the section from Court Street to Hoyt–Schermerhorn Streets. Ditto for the Archer Avenue branch, which was supposed to serve the and Queens Boulevard locals; and the tracks say just as much.

On 4/15/2023 at 1:56 AM, U-BahnNYC said:

I really don't give a damn about the 'locked doors are safe' argument. People should be given the freedom to weigh the risks

Freedom and Darwinism FTW

On 4/14/2023 at 9:50 PM, Calvin said:

Blue lights are being tested in the system to keep commuters off the tracks

So blue is the new red.

On 4/12/2023 at 8:49 PM, ABCDEFGJLMNQRSSSWZ said:

Given all the development in that area, perhaps there's a way to get private developers to pitch in a bit in exchange for the station? Knowing the MTA, it'd prolly be at least a billion in today's money which sucks.

Given all the development in the area, doesn’t that already seal the fate of the station? Those buildings are going to go up faster than the city can say “stop.” Those forever studies and committee meetings guarantee it.

It’s going to be like the intersection of 23 Street and 44 Drive in Queens (Court Square station). The platforms are right under the platforms, but the buildings on the corners went up and nobody stopped to add a provision for a connection straight down. If you’re on the wrong end of the , have fun walking all the way down the length of the platform, then two-thirds of the length of the platform, and finally another corridor as long as the platform just to get to the . You’d walk about a third of a mile (0.33 mi) just to descend a hundred feet from the spot you were standing on for a transfer. That transfer between Broadway and 8 Avenue at Times Square–42 Street is a fifth of a mile (0.20 mi).

1 hour ago, ABCDEFGJLMNQRSSSWZ said:

My guess is given all the cuts they've been making, they'll prolly do a basic trackbed provision and believe tail-tracks after 125th heading West will be sufficient for storage.

Knowing the MTA’s penchant for cutting, they’ll probably cut the tail tracks, leaving two nubs at the start of the 125 Street curve, and stash the trains on some express tracks whenever that starts existing. Those planned storage tracks at 14 Street are probably not happening either.

On 3/6/2023 at 11:45 PM, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

I can answer that. The answer is yes.  It's been reported in the media on a number of occasions that most of the rebound in subway ridership is coming from working class to poor neighborhoods.  The wealthier areas are where you have more people that work from home or they work a few days a week and come in later or leave earlier.

Just curious: who exactly constitute the working class?

But their rights!

Ah… Monday morning WTFs on the Brighton: the conductor whose “niceness” delays the train just enough so that the a**hole conductor can clear the train out of the station at Sheepshead Bay 3 seconds before the opens its doors.