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He extended it to 14th Street....
He extended it to Astor Place, but I'm saying that the current M98 terminal at 68th Street is ridiculous. It should be extended further downtown, at least to 34th Street. Maybe even further south.
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The point was to cut the BxM1 in Inwood....
Oh sorry, I skimmed that post fast because I was in a rush.
Yes, I would be in favor of extending it up in Inwood, perhaps to the M100 terminal, but keep the bus in Manhattan. Riders along Broadway in the Bronx already have the BxM3 which provides much faster service.
Oh and there definitely needs to be an M98 extension on the southern end, at least back to its previous terminal by 34th Street.
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How about extending and beefing up the M98? I'd like to suggest extending it a bit on the south end down to Astor Pl/Cooper Union, making the Fort Washington service a rush-hour-only branch, and sending the main line up Broadway to 242 St? The new service would run 5AM-midnight on weekdays and 6AM-10PM on Saturdays, supplementing the M101 and providing a much faster ride between points on the East Side and Fort George.
The line would look like this: https://maps.google....266e1ebc6&msa=0
and it would stop at
Broadway/242 St
Broadway/238 St
Broadway/231 St
Broadway/225 St
Broadway/218 St
Broadway/Isham St
Broadway/Dyckman St
Broadway/Nagle Av
Broadway/187 St
Broadway/178 St SB (179 St/Broadway NB)
178 St/ Amsterdam Av SB (179 St/Amsterdam Av NB)
Then all current and former M98 stops to 34 St, then:
Park Av S/23 St
Broadway/14 St (4 Av/14 St NB)
8 St/Broadway (SB only)
8 St/Bowery (last stop SB, at M101/M102 stop), then looping around Cooper Union and laying over on 4 Av with the first stop on 4 Av/8 St SE corner.
During rush hours, bidirectional service would be provided to/from Ft Washington via the old M98 route.
The new routing would also make it feasible to discontinue weekday BxM1 service through Inwood, as folks there who desire East Side service would be able to get a comparably quick ride on the M98 at greater frequencies at less than half the fare.
The entire route you mentioned is served by the BxM1 in Inwood and the BxM3 in the Bronx.
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7th Avenue LOWER LEVEL cannot be used. This affects uptown
and Queens bound 
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Can you guys just leave it? Yes, his solution is pretty werid, and it's obvious, but it's his way of solving things.
If it was just once I would nicely point out why screwing up a functioning museum would not work. But this is every single freaking scenario when there's clearly an alternative way that's much easier, and people constantly respond negatively to his solution of it. By now he should realize that it isn't feasible and that we do not approve of such a solution.
Even though most of these scenarios are ridiculous and crazy, this is basically a puzzle game and we try to come up with the most realistic solution possible.
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Can you guys just leave it? Yes, his solution is pretty werid, and it's obvious, but it's his way of solving things.
I'll post the next scenario:
The 96 Street Station on both IRT lines is impassible.
Lines affected:
runs in 2 sections: The Bronx to 137th Street - Times Square to South Ferry runs in 2 sections: The Bronx to 110th Street - Times Square OR 14th Street to Brooklyn runs between Chambers Street and Brooklyn runs in 2 sections: The Bronx to 125th Street - 86th Street to Brooklyn runs between The Bronx to 125th Street runs in 2 sections: The Bronx to 125th Street - 86th Street to Brooklyn Bridge0 -
NX & Gorgor: I have to say this: You guys would make good mods if you were a little less hard on Wallly, but yes, that is retarded...
What he doesn't realize that the Transit Museum is an actual museum that people pay to enter. He either wants to close down the museum for the duration of the scenario, or COMPLETELY SCREW OVER anyone who went to the museum to go see the trains. The old trains is a major component of the museum, and was the only reason that I ever went there years ago. If I went to the museum, paid my admission, and then found out that I couldn't see those old subway cars because some moron decided to reroute an active subway line to terminate there I would be FURIOUS.
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There are also (as well noted in my other scenarios) switches at the Transit Museum, but that would require clearing a train out of the museum so trains can terminate at Hoyt-Schermhorn and use the TM station to turn in an emergency.
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Sorta changed it.
Still the same problem. Check the track map. The
are approaching from the local track, and the are approaching from the express track. The only way to send the to 8th Avenue is to have them interfere with the and cause delays.0 -
All changes northbound only.
Skips Spring, 23, 50 Streets Via 8th Avenue Local via 6th Avenue Express Stop at platform at 47-50 Streets-Rockefeller and 42 Street-Bryant Park.You do realize that to get the
to 8th Avenue you have to run them on the local track, and the definitely cannot share one track without delaying everything.0 -
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Because of an event, service through 59 St/63 St/Lex must be maximized.
Reroute trains to maximize service through 60 St, 63 St, and Lex Av.
... Really? What the heck is this. There isn't already enough service, and you want to reroute trains and confuse people and tourists trying to get to an event? And screw over other neighborhoods? This is stupid, but here goes...
via the 5 between the Bronx and Brooklyn runs from Astoria to Coney Island via the Q in Manhattan
via 63rd Street, 6th Av local F between Queens and West 4th Street; terminates at Jamaica Center via 63rd Street F between Queens and Rockefeller Center
run via the M on 6th Avenue, via the F to Queens, and local to 71st Street63rd Street:
60th Street:
Lexington Av:
Is that enough extra service for you?
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Due to two unrelated incidents, the uptown local F/M track at Rockefeller Center and the uptown local E track at 50th Street cannot be used.
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Jimmy's
Operates from 207 to Brighton Beach via 6 Avenue and from Hoyt Schremhorn Streets to the Rockaways Operates to 2 Avenue Extended to High Street Last stop york street
Extended to Coney Island via Manhattan Bridge every other train. Every other train top Whitehall as well Every other local on 4 AvenueFree shuttle buses run between York street and Bergen Street, stopping at High Street
to Brighton?! And how does the the other terminate at Hoyt-Schermerhorn?Why are you extending the
into Brooklyn and cutting the in Manhattan, which will also cause delays on the ? Keep the at WTC and send the to High Street...0 -
NEXT: No trains can run through or stop at Jay St, Borough Hall (MetroTech). Reroute the
and lines. runs in 2 sections: 207th to High St - Utica Av to Rockaways/Lefferts runs in 2 sections: 168th to Chambers St - Clinton-Washington Avs to Euclid runs in 2 sections: 179th to York St - Bergen St to Coney IslandNEXT
Due to signal malfunctions, no trains may pass over the X-switch directly south of York Street
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FASTRACK is finally in Brooklyn, and the 4th Avenue Line is shut down for the whole line, and the 9th Avenue Station is closed too.
How would you reroute trains?
Affected Lines:
First off, you're using the term FASTRACK wrong. FASTRACK is a program of shutting down an entire line in Manhattan only in Midtown which leaves people with alternatives no further than a couple blocks. Your scenario is just causing a nightmare for anyone traveling.
via Brighton express to Coney Island shuttle between Coney Island and 62nd Street. Northbound shuttle skips 20 Av, 18 Av, 79 St, 71 St shuttle between Coney Island and KIngs HighwayNo trains run through Coney Island. You must transfer at Coney Island to continue your trip.
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NEXT: The Cortlant Street Stop is closed in both directions. No trains can stop there. Also the
and tracks on the Manhattan Bridge are closed.. The , , and trains must be rerouted.OBSTACLES:
-Provide Whitehall St with subway service to Brooklyn
-This will also incorporate buses. Shuttle bus service must be provided to the stations where subway service is not provided. Shuttle buses must connect to a station with a transfer on both sides.
runs between the Bronx and Broadway-Lafayette runs in 2 sections: The Bronx to Broadway-Lafayette - Whitehall Street to Coney Island runs via the bridge=>
runs local along Broadway to avoid merging issuesNo shuttle bus service needed. (Especially since it's Manhattan and traffic is terrible downtown...)
Take the
to Broadway-Lafayette, transfer for a downtown to Canal Street, transfer for a Brooklyn bound making all stops.Take the
to Broadway-Lafayette, transfer for a downtown to Canal Street, transfer for a Brooklyn bound to DeKalb, transfer to a Brooklyn bound For Lower Manhattan, take a Brooklyn bound
to 14th Street and transfer for a downtown making nearby stops. Or take a Queens bound train to Atlantic-Pacific and transfer for a Bronx bound making nearby stops or a to Whitehall Street.0 -
: Via 6th Avenue Express.: 34th Street-Euclid Avenue.: Via 6th Avenue Local, and QBL Local.: Chambers Street-Metro Avenue.
Good luck trying to squeeze the
onto one track and then merge the A to express and have it on one track with the .What I would do:
in 2 sections: 207th to Columbus Circle via local - 34th to Rockaway/Lefferts - 34th to Euclid - 6th avenue local - Broad Street0 -
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Trains run between 14 St/8 Av and Metropolitan Av....
The last stop on some southbound trains is 86 or 68 St. Other trains run express from 125 to 42 St.NEXT
The following locations are impassable:
23 St NQR
The 8 Av tracks at 53 St ( AC only)
M to 14th/8th? Dude, check the track map. Not only is that impossible but also illogical. Also check the track map for the 6 to 68th Street; that doesn't work either. (why not just send the 6 express if the 5 is diverted already?)
But for your scenario:
via 6th Avenue local between Columbus Circle and West 4th Street - suspended - 34th Street Penn Station to Euclid Av runs via 8th Avenue local between West 4th Street and 53rd Street run between Whitehall Street and Coney island also run between Astoria and 42nd Street or 34th Street via 6th Avenue express and 63rd Street between DeKalb Av and QueensSummary:
6th Avenue local:
6th Avenue express:
8th Avenue local:
Please expect delays due to switching however.
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No trains may enter or pass through Delancey Street/Essex Street
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Special OOS transfer (not counting against bus-subway transfer) to
/ / at Lexington Avenue-59th Street and at 68th Street-Hunter College.That solution was perfectly done, except I'm really confused as to this part. There's a free transfer between 59th Street
and 63rd Street already.And how do you even create a special OOS transfer if there was something happening like this? I've never used it, but doesn't the 59th-63rd use special machines you swipe your metrocards into?
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and are extended to Prospect Park or Brighton Beach, Brooklyn via the Montauge tunnel and the Brighton line.
Dude, only the IRT is affected. This just really makes me think are you just stupid or something?
Now stop self-pleasuring to the thought of the
running down Brighton because I will explain using LOGIC why your solution is flawed, and besides for the fact that ONLY THE FREAKING IRT IS AFFECTED. (Thank god that you didn't eff up the transit museum and send the train there)This would mean:
share tracks between Manhattan and DeKalb, then the must MERGE with the trains. This will cause severe delays to trains. Oh, and you want to completely screw up the Franklin Avenue shuttle, making people have to transfer between shuttles at Botanic Garden, and then run that crap down to Coney Island? That's FIVE different lines running down Brighton.Oh, and why the heck is the
now operating peak direction express? It is no where near the in the Bronx, and will not get any of its customers.The rest of your "solutions" aren't good at all in my opinion, but I can handle those because they're at least regarding IRT trains.
Stop getting aroused to the thought of the
going to Brooklyn. You don't need to keep posting your wet dreams here.3 -
As it takes place during midday hours, the
combined wouldn't be that much.Oops, I didn't catch that part. Yeah, it's still 26.5 tph plus the
merge after West 4th Street, but there would only be minimal delays.0 -
Northbound trains via West 4 Street to 59 Street Northbound trains skip Spring, 23, 50 Sts
That means that the
all have to squeeze onto ONE track which would cause massive delays.0 -
(not really...
)
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Due to a faulty 3rd between 125 St
and 145 St , both stations are impassible. To add to the picture, both stations may not be used as terminals or lay-ups. Shall we commence. runs in 2 sections: 207th to 168th - Columbus Circle to Lefferts/Rockaways runs between Penn Station and Euclid via 8th Avenue express suspended runs in 2 sections: 205th to Yankee Stadium - Columbus Circle to Coney IslandAnd note, the
does not need to wrong rail between 175th and 168th; Look at the track map.0 -
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Trains cannot pass under the East river using the Cranberry St tube or the Rutgers St tube. RULES: no routes can be suspended, or have service frequencies reduced
runs in 2 sections: 207th to Chambers Street - Jay Street to Lefferts/Rockaways runs in 2 sections: 168th to Chambers Street - Jay Street to Euclid runs in 2 sections: Jamaica Center to 2nd Av - York St to Coney Island---
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No trains can pass through Jay Street. Reroute the
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and Queens bound 
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station. The Brooklyn bound track is unaffected.
are approaching from the local track, and the 
Skips Spring, 23, 50 Streets
run via the M on 6th Avenue, via the F to Queens, and local to 71st Street
Extended to Coney Island
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Subway - What If?
in New York City Subway
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Better to run trains with delays then force people to make unnecessary transfers.
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The local QUEENS BOUND track at 57th-7th
cannot be used. In addition, the switch connecting the express to local directly north of the station cannot be used either.