FlyerD901

Well I apologize. I was working on a quarter of a brain then. lol

No thats not true at all. Thats so beyond false its ridiclulous. (<-- Don't care if that statement made sense.) I don't even think its worth telling you the real reason they went down and not out especially after a baseless lie like that. C'mon now. Some of the reasons they went down was because they cheated EPA some how back in 1999/2000. DDC, Cummins and CAT also. International was invovled somehow too but I forget the full story. Cummins is they only company that came out of it by themself with no real partnership with another company. Like DDC and Mercedes. And a few other reasons they left the city bus market back in 2005. They were still making the S60 engines and later DD13 and others. "we" assuming NYCMTA, was not the reason, sure their might have been a lawsuit, but it didn't cause DD to go out of business. You can't come onto a public website with lies like that and expect not to get called out. People come on here for the truth and honest facts. Lets keep it that way please! The credibility of you and this site goes down because of lies like that.

Best bus ride ever! Child hood memories for some. I hope they don't complain when the bus fares go up

Is it possible to rearrange the seating in the rear section of the OG VIIs, to the 2nd/3rd Gen rear seating arrangment? Is there any TA out there that have perimeter seating (or inward facing seats, instead of the forward facing seats) in the OG buses, back section?

Orion left the market with a good proven porduct (shitty start, but something Houston Metro, TTC, NYC/MTA was willing to continue ordering, big three bus companies). What makes MTS think they can enter it? I'm sorry but I'm loosing hope in this company. I feel like a fool for actually believing in the hype. The longer I have to wait for simple updates the more I lose hope. I'll give them credit for trying, but sometimes the writing is written on the wall. They will be more succesful having a musuem, and maybe relocating to Michigan where RTS was orginally made. IIRC.