MarkD329

Does anyone have any idea when Egg Harbor is gonna get any NABIs?

5367 is at Washington Twp. This bus is usually seen daily either on the 400 or 403 lines with cameos on the 459/463.

BTW, 5230 hasn't been seen anywhere down here, and usually all of the Wash. Twp NABIs are seen on their routes. Is this a "Training Bus"? This bus seems to be MIA.

Update for academy garage they got their first Nabi 6013 got a pic going to upload in a few

Most likely the first NABI they got was 6009, then 6010,11,12,13, and etc.

I know buses up to 6024 was delivered to NJT, most likely they are at Academy.

So I guess Academy got 6009-6024 [so far.].

6003 is also at Newton Avenue, saw it yesterday on the 452. I am also confused..New NABI Transits 6007 and 6008 Ironbound?? No..they are at Newton Avenue, I rode 6008 this past weekend on the 404.

Anymore 6000's been sighted anywhere at NJT? Newton got 6001-6008, looking for 6009 and above.

For Newton Avenue:

EVERY NOVA BUS IS GONE remove them from the roster.

2012 NABI 6001-6008 [so far].

6000s are at Newton Ave. Seen 6001, 6002, and 6006 at WRTC Camden.

Talked to a BO friend of mine at Orange. Orange has NABI 5936 - 5996 confirmed, M&W got 5924, and since the 186 was transferred from Oradell to Market Street, Market grabbed the buses from Washington. Any more info, I'll let you guys know. GN.

 

Mark, I corrected the NOVA B but not the other buses. I'll take care of that next time.

5924 is still at Newton Ave. I saw it in Camden last week.

Three minor corrections to the roster:

Ironbound Garage

Should read: 5641-5658

Hamilton Garage - 66 buses

Should read 5501-5566

Newton Ave Garage:

1577 is a 2001 Nova. Delete it from the 1999 Nova Line. 1578's whereabouts is questionable.

That is all of the corrections.

UPDATE: Logan doesn't have any pics. I don't know how to contact Mackey.

NJ Transit Bus Fan Page - Garages

The garage logos are displayed at the Newark Shops. If you know someone there, maybe they can take a picture of each logo and send it to you.

5567 came from Hamilton

5639-40 came from Ironbound

5797-98 came from Hilton

These NABIs came from their original garage assignments and were transferred to Newton Ave.

1288 originally came from Market St. This bus came to Newton Ave in the 1284-91 batch to replace the last of the 3700 Metro-D's in 2010. I thought this bus went away in the wake of the 5900s deliveries to Newton Ave, but I was wrong. This bus never left Newton Ave.

The depot stickers in the Southern Division were rarely seen on the buses. A few Flxibles and MCIs displayed them in the mid-90s but were rarely seen on the buses delivered after 2000 [NOVAS and MCI D4000s]. Buses in Trenton displayed a "NJT Mercer" sticker but when the 870s and Metro As were replaced with Metro Ds and NOVAs and were moved from the old Mercer Garage to Hamilton, the stickers disappeared. Check with either Trevor Logan or Dave Mackey and ask to see the NJT stickers. NJT brought out the stickers a couple of years after the MTA did in the 80's.

Add 1288 to the Newton Ave NOVA Roster. Saw this bus at WRTC Camden today.

Mark, are you telling me that those are the only NOVA B's left at Newton?

Yes. The 5900's took the place of most of the NOVAs at Newton Ave.

Could you change the NOVA roster at Newton Ave to read:

1202,1203,1204,1207,1263,1284,1285,1289,1577

there are 9 NOVAs assigned to that garage.

Please revise the NABI roster as follows:

NABI's added: 5567, 5639-40, 5797-98

NABI Suburban subtracted [to Market St] 5375-83

NABI Suburbans Remaining at Newton Ave: 5368-74

Thanks.

another one for market street. Spotted #5375 working on the rt 182 line this morning.

But are there any replacements for these buses being sent down to South Jersey?

553 is correct. This might sound like a bash from me but it's more of a fact than opinion statement. If there were more urban-ly grouped cities as Newark, Jersey City, New York City, Paterson, and others more closely together as they are in North Jersey than South Jersey, then the discussion of more buses in South Jersey would have more merit. Now, I'm not saying that you guys don't need more buses since you guys have problems too with overcrowding and such. It's amazing why you guys don't have articulated buses down south. If there was more people coming together with signatures and other forms to let NJT officials know what's really going on down there, NJT might (MIGHT) consider adding more buses and equipment there. That would also spark new jobs, but again, there has to be a proof of the need of added equipment since that is a investment on it's own adding a new garage, hiring new staff, training them, getting new buses, hiring new mechanics, bus cleaners, hiring people to dig the underground for the fuel tanks, and a lot of other legalities.

There's another issue that is not discussed up in the power offices in Newark, that is there is a serious need for revision of the South Jersey bus system. The buses do not go to where the jobs are and it is a major hassle to ge there because in most cases, you have to go to Camden to transfer. We need more bus routes to start or pass through PATCO stations. We also need more feeder bus service at RiverLINE stations to connect the route to job sites along I-295. The last few years have seen major cutbacks on runs to Philadelphia, and where did those runs go? They just disappeared, they were'nt reallocated to better intrastate service, or new routes serving new areas. Those runs were simply cut out.

Another problem is that service is being wasted for no reason at all. What service I'm talking about? It's the 409/419 routes whose ridership was considerably altered with the operation of the RiverLINE. The 419 buses carries NOBODY past Camden, and the 409 buses run empty between Burlington and Trenton. What can be done? Restructure the 452, that will take care of the 419's Camden ridership, and split the 409 in to two routes: Philly-Roebling [409], and Trenton-Willingboro[623], with the 418 handling service when the RiverLINE is not operating.

In the end, NJT is not being smart about their regions. they sacrifice the Southern Division for the North, not realizing the needs of the riders in this region.

add 5377 & 5379 to Market St.

If those two buses are at Market St, then what buses are replacing them at Newton Ave?

We already got a bus shortage in South Jersey, don't you guys up north make things worse!

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There are nine NOVAs left at Newton Ave: 1202, 1203, 1204, 1207, 1263, 1284, 1285, 1289, 1577.

Add 5639 and 5640 to the NABI roster.

Please don't quote long blocks of text unnecessarily.

Lance.

Newton Ave swiped two NABIs from Hilton; 5797 and 5798.

WTF is going on at NJT? Have some NOVAs gone up north? Have more suburban NABIs moved [either up north or down to Wash Twp?]

Remaining NOVAs at Newton were [wild guess] 1202, 1203, 1204, 1207, 1263, 1284, 1285, 1289, 1577. Can this be verified?

What's going on with those Ironbound buses?! They keep getting spotted on routes at other depots..lol

Yeah, especially 5639 which was seen in CAMDEN last night!

Bad news in Toronto: Service cuts and possible fare hikes.

CP24- TTC to cut service on 62 bus and streetcar routes

From the info gleaned from the last two posts, Newton's 5900's are replacing the NOVAS, while Wash. Twp is sending up their excess MCI's. That means either Wash. Twp will get some 5900's or they will get the 5300's when Newton is finished getting their 5900's.

The Newton Ave listing for the 5900's should read 5908-5918. My mistake.

Make that 5919-5923, just seen it in downtown JC.

Based on this current info, Newton Ave has 5908-5919 and 5924, 5925, and ?

On another forum, there's a picture of 5911 in Center City Philly.

I saw Nova bus 1493 on the 451 today... Picture will be posted

Since Wash. Twp is stealing NABI buses from Newton Ave to make schedule on the exact fare lines [400/403/459/463], I'm not surprised to see Newton Ave raid Egg Harbor for their NOVA transits.

NJT gotta get those new NABIs down south ASAP!

At Hamilton, the route line up should read like this:

600, 601, 602, 603/613, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608, 609/619, 610 [school route], 611, 612.