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Not for the entire line. Only at places where it is required to remove people.

But why would removal of people be necessary? There is always an alternative, which most likely be cheaper (considering New York, that is).

You can use eminent domain and say that it is for the greater good. Then you can still raze their homes and businesses and relocate them, or when the construction for the subway is done you can have the buildings rebuilt and have the tenants move back in. In Japan they did that for a skyscraper project. They bought the property and promised the tenants that they would be allowed to move back in which they did. You won't have complaints if you do that and everyone wins.

Skyscraper and set of tunnels are two different things. If one was to remove the people from the area in order to construct the subway line, then who would the line serve? Besides the said person/entity would spend more money and time buying people off, rather then building the line. IMO, it is also incorrect to compare Japan and the US, as they are two vastly different cultures.

Then I guess the cut and cover method is the fastest way to dig a subway for NYC.

Not only is faster, it's the only method which easily allows for >2 tracks. Unlike deep bore method, C&C is strictly limited to the characteristics of the street under which the line would be running.

But today the use of TBM is not a privilege, it is a necessity. Take for example the portion of track where SAS branches off 63rd Street. It's a wide curve, which lies under blocks of developed neighborhood, rendering cut and cover useless (unless one is willing to tear down the blocks). While cut and cover is cheaper, it is difficult to use it today, especially in densely populated neighborhood such as UES.

I found out that a tunnel shield is the fastest and easiest tunnel construction method.

 

BUILDING BIG: The Tunnel Challenge

 

I don't know if it can be used in NYC though because of the bedrock we have.

Well, TBM is essentially an evolution of a shield. Shield was originally designed at the dawn of 19th century in England. It required manual labor and was effective because of the soft ground under Thames river. Here though, the original shield would take forever to dig through the rocks. With that said, the TBMs only differ based on the requirements for specific job. Thus machine designed to tunnel in soft ground conditions (London, Moscow, etc.) won't cut it in New York. It is also one of the reasons why those machines aren't used again after they are done digging.

We will see when we get there.

I though so as well, but I figured since picture worth thousand words, the video is more important aspect of the report. I just couldn't cut the video out :mad:

IF mods think it is appropriate somewhere else, then by all means I'm for it.

Second Avenue Subway Construction: An Underground Look

Can't wait to see that station on it's grand opening

I noticed something interesting tonight.Coney Island Bound trains are runnning on the (D)line.But also there are no trains between 36th and 59th st.So what does someone do if they want to go to 45th and beyond on the .there is no way to get to 59th Coney Island Bound.Im assuming one of those G.os are not happening.But I could be wrong.Is there a shuttle bus to connect 36th to 59th?

I assume one would have to take either the or the to 62nd and transfer to manhattan bound at New Utrecht, which goes to 36th.

Doubt it. Remember, some cars were retired and put into work service a couple of years ago. Could be wrong though.

I think I myself created whole lot of hype for no reason, otherwise why in the world the cars would have "rail adhesion car" in between, especially since it's fall and it's Brighton and lastly there is some sort of G.O. during mid day hours.

So it was false alarm.

Saw some R32s today on Brighton, in this order: 3494-3495-Rail Adhesion Car-3695-3694, heading northbound.

Wondering is it related to the start of R32 sms, or is it something completely different?

"Both directions, & train service bypass Jackson Ave due to dark station"

Now this is something new, at least for me.

Today my train over the Bridge via 6th Ave, rode it all the way to Nas's old stomping grounds before taking the to the - back home. I wonder what happened on Broadway to cause that?

 

Also does anybody know how common the R160 train is? I go out of way during weekends and rush hour (When there most likely to pop up) and never see them. For some weird reason its really rare to see any subway car other than the R46 on the during midday weekdays. Pre R160 era, the R32s always ran on the rush hour only and sometimes weekends, but never midday during the week.

 

While the OTOH, it was pretty common to see 32s on there any time of the day.

 

I know the used 40M/42s during the midday during the week right before they retried, that's the ONLY time I remembered seeing non 46 equipment on the during midday's.

I caught on 6th avenue too, the PA said it was something with 60th St. tunnel.

R train on 6th Avenue - West 4 Street - YouTube

R68/A with blue seat

I would like to see the whole car with blue seats.

Some of the things I would like to see in R"onemillion"

Smooth/Polished stainless steel body, similar to one found on R44-R68/A

Near whisper quiet propulsion, motors and A/Cs

Larger front route sign, maybe an LCD to display all colors

Dream of a railfan; 2/3rd of a cabin, the rest is a railfan window, which is located where currently the flag and (NYCT) logo is. The cabin door slides to the right. :cool:

The rest is similar to the current NTTs

I think people would cry out if you abandoned a Nostrand Av just to fix some switches.

Exactly, the time to fix Rogers is gone. It should have been done in 1920, which really shows the short sightedness of designers and engineers of IRT/City back in the days.

What if The MTA all of a sudden got a big grant from Albany to rebuild Rogers junction? It would require the entire area for a time to be closed down.What would you do?

Well, first of all I am not a big fan of junctions to begin with. I like the lines to stay separate for as long as possible, because it's the only way to prevent delays due to "train ahead of us, should be moving shortly".

Secondly Im not that knowledgeable about the track configuration at that area, and not finding it fun to decide: which trains go where, where they do not go, terminate, running shuttles and so forth. Someone else can cover this.

Last of all, it would require the part of Eastern Parkway to be dug out, to which I don't think residents will agree, in light that whole structure brings questionable benefit to regular folk.

But I like to fantasize too, so I drew two plans how to improve traffic in the area.

Plan 1

Flatbush trains enter/exit mainline with new set of tunnels, similar to what IND has south of 59th st. Because a lot of land has to be used the Nostrand Av. station is demolished. Everything south of Nostrand stays the same.

Plan 2

Similar setup, but now the whole Eastern Parkway is screwed. The benefit is that Nostrand stays and new Utica Av. which has separate levels for both and .

Just fantasizing it's all

I don't get one thing, why everyone is fantasizing about negative aspects of "what if?"

As only bad things can happen? How about some positive mental attitude?!

And some of the "what ifs" don't even make sense...

Hello everybody

Well, lets say I am new to photography, still learning about basics and everything. But one can teach himself only limited amount of things, thus is why I am here. I have been using regular point and shoot camera and I believe this is a limiting factor for a better photography. Pictures come out grainy and smudgy while railfanning, using flash isn't always possible, especially since flash is not permitted on NYCT property. I believe I need to upgrade my camera and I thought of DSLR cameras.

Railfans with experince and photo pros will you help me with this dilema? Do I need to get DSLR or should I settle for modern point-and-shoot? Is the image quality worth the extra money? If so which ones would you recommend. Thanks in advance

P.S. My current camera is Canon SD1100 IS

Hello everyone

Well for intro, I am new to the field of photography and still learning how to take good pictures and figuring out the camera. I noticed that my camera, Canon Powershot SD1100 IS doesn't take acceptable photos without flash or of any moving subject in low light, even with flash. The photos turn out smudgy and grainy, due to high ISO. I have been thinking about getting a new camera, since I love occasionally to railfan, do I need more advanced camera, like DSLRs or just better point and shoot? Is the difference between two in image quality worth the extra money? Are entry level DSLRs any good, if so which ones? I would like to hear your opinions. Thanks for input in advance.

Hello everyone

Well for intro, I am new to the field of photography and still learning how to take good pictures and figuring out the camera. I noticed that my camera, Canon Powershot SD1100 IS doesn't take acceptable photos without flash or of any moving subject in low light, even with flash. The photos turn out smudgy and grainy, due to high ISO. I have been thinking about getting a new camera, since I love occasionally to railfan, do I need more advanced camera, like DSLRs or just better point and shoot? Is the difference between two in image quality worth the extra money? Are entry level DSLRs any good, if so which ones? I would like to hear your opinions. Thanks for input in advance.

Number one song to listen on a train (IMO), it's so rhythmic to the moving train, it's unbelievable.

Number one song to listen on a train (IMO), it's so rhythmic to the moving train, it's unbelievable.

Can get over 35, speed limit is 30 due to curves inside the station. However, s/b speed limit is 45 and the bends are still there.

 

There's speed limits at Sheepshead Bay and Kings Highway, I obey those too (which is why the T/O's are slowing down outside the station, and Kings Highway is a notorious radar gun spot with that 30 sitting on the entering signal n/b, no curve or nothing). Church and Newkirk there are no limits, and I operate accordingly. I'm on the ( again tomorrow (Wed), I take the last one outa there (9:56 from Brighton).

Radar gun, now that is something new (to me). I also realized that trains were slow due to presence of track and signal maintainers along the route. Is it true that there is less track maintenance during rush hours then during regular service?

About 9:56 run, by what time will it reach 59th St? Thanks :tup:

Can get over 35, speed limit is 30 due to curves inside the station. However, s/b speed limit is 45 and the bends are still there.

 

There's speed limits at Sheepshead Bay and Kings Highway, I obey those too (which is why the T/O's are slowing down outside the station, and Kings Highway is a notorious radar gun spot with that 30 sitting on the entering signal n/b, no curve or nothing). Church and Newkirk there are no limits, and I operate accordingly. I'm on the ( again tomorrow (Wed), I take the last one outa there (9:56 from Brighton).

Radar gun, now that is something new (to me). I also realized that trains were slow due to presence of track and signal maintainers along the route. Is it true that there is less track maintenance during rush hours then during regular service?

About 9:56 run, by what time will it reach 59th St? Thanks :tup:

Operated for the first time brighton exp...sweet stuff...51 at newkirk n/b 46 a piece s/b at newkirk and sheepshead bay.

I hope you would operate the ( more often, so far most of T.Os weren't that great speedwise. Hopefully I'll catch the right ( sometime soon, afterall it is my home route.