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Common suggestion that I think is worth looking into. Lump that with the being extended to Broadway/125th after SAS is done. I'd make it B division, solely because it would have an easy connection to the at 125th/Lex. If we want to go crazy, lump this idea with the Long Island segment of the Triboro RX and we might get some QBL relief

I did say it wasn't likely. The TA has been known to do all sorts of funny things during GOs.

R62s are another possibility, as Livonia will be the closest accessible yard to the . This certainly isn't likely, but we could see a set or two of R62s return to the this weekend, again because Livonia is right there and the will be extended all weekend. On the express thing, good question. Doesn't really make sense. There's a GO on the northbound local sending everything express north of Grand Central, but the running local is a mystery. If there was a GO on the express track, everything would be sent local. Maybe they finally got the hint and put additional local service on the line?

Biggest problem with at-grade is that Chambers and the WSH are often gridlocked. Although, 14th and WSH have room for a track without really hurting traffic. I'd be for a street-level system if the public would approve. Center-city Toronto is similar in density to Lower Manhattan and their streetcars work fine. Knowing New York's legal system, I doubt they've gotten rid of the law banning street-level catenary in Manhattan, so anything would have to be powered via a conduit, which is extremely inefficient and relatively dangerous, especially in a city with significant snowfall.

Light rail would be great for that area. Not really enough to justify building a new line, but would certainly see high ridership. Low-cost solution to a growing commuter base. Could probably even elevate it on an eye-friendly structure a la Vancouver

If they can't walk two blocks, boo hoo. Even Park Slope residents have to walk a few blocks to a subway station (and they don't have the option of taking a cab). Engineering would be a pain because of the high water table. I'm certainly for a 10th Avenue Line. Just don't know if you'd be able to get a few billion dollars to bring a subway station one block closer to a neighborhood that is already a short walk from most of the city's subway lines.

A very limited budget. Upstate is tightening the noose. Blame a lot of that on a former Buffalo mayor who convinced everyone that downstate is the enemy and only useful for the tax dollars sent up.

Chambers is a couple blocks above the WTC and right where the Battery Park City landfill begins. Liberty Street is south of WTC and to get there you'd have to get under West Street, which is outside the bathtub. Everything in BPC is built on pilings with subbasements extending down over 60 feet to bedrock. To avoid water issues, everything would have to be in the rock. It certainly is possible. I'm just saying that the benefits might not justify the cost, especially if half of the city's subway lines have stations within a couple of blocks

Wow. Wally has gone "Full Wally". This might be too crazy to warrant a response. I might have to drink a bottle of whiskey if I decide to play the drinking game. But, since I'm bored, I'll do it: No service along the north of 59th and south of there, including any parallel tracks. service suspended where Obama's train runs on same/parallel tracks Manny B closed Senator Schumer's apartment building in Park Slope will be host to a protest of epic proportions, forcing him to launch a campaign to impeach Obama, as the millions of people unable to take the train will have swamped the streets of Park Slope New Yorkers will be so ticked at Obama's apathy that a Democrat will never again win New York's electoral votes

I don't really get why there are 4 tracks north of the Manny B if 2 were rarely (if ever) used. Was the original plan to run everything from south of Chambers to Essex or beyond?

Coming from an engineer, I'll tell you that, while possible, costs will be very high. We're talking at least 2-3 times the per-mile cost of SAS. You'd have to be deeper than PATH no matter how it is constructed. Everything would have to be built in a waterproof underground box not unlike the "bathtub" housing the WTC or in the bedrock underneath the landfill. Think Exchange Place and the Washington Heights stations are deep? This would be deeper if not in a bathtub. Then you'd have to build access shafts. Would a line further west be nice? Yep. But you'll never get it that far south while keeping it west of what currently exists. The is about as far west as a line can go south of Chambers.

Isn't Chicago mostly cab signalling and ATP? If there's a computer on the train, it can be overridden or disabled. I'd like to hear more about the state of the computer systems before making any judgements. While this could theoretically happen in New York, it's very unlikely due to the presence of timers protecting nearly every stub-ended track outside of a yard. The final trip stop is located far enough from the end of track for a train to stop when traveling at the speed specified by the timers if it passes the final red signal. Trains crawl into stub terminals. One of the many reasons why the Flushing extension has long tail tracks. A train will be able to enter at speed and still be able to stop before the bumper block if tripped.

Requires more trains to keep decent service levels

Contract does not specify CBTC. The R179s are effectively another option order of R160s (the ones NOT on the ). QBL resignalling hasn't even started yet. The R46s will probably be long gone by then...

What he said. There's a connection to Concourse Yard on the Jerome line and from there it's a pretty simple trip to the entire B division.

Now THAT is BS. Bastard mutilated the rollsign. Poor thing died without glory.

Isn't there a set assigned to the ?

I just see it causing confusion. One could just as easily make the and run on weekends to eliminate the 53rd Street issue. You'd run into issues at the 34th Street interlocking as the would have to switch between the express and local tracks. A few times over the past couple weeks, people with the have posted that personnel assigned to a route get paid even if a GO suspends service. That's the reason why the stopped running to Forest Hills- it rarely went there due to construction but the extra crews still got paid. Hence why 6th Avenue only operates with 2 services on weekends. Annoying, yes, but either 6th or 8th always has something going on and it allows them to reroute trains without suspending services and wasting money.

That and the is busier than the , so it needs the extra doors and standing room. Hopefully, nothing else will ever run as long as the R32s.

Rolling stock purchases are one-and-done while SMS and overhauls are ongoing. In the long run, you might spend more doing the latter, but the (unfortunately) only gets a certain amount of funding at a time. It's like the difference between buying and renting a house. After a while, you'll have spent more by renting, but there isn't the large up-front cost.

Maybe that's how they are going to make consists longer. You never know with the . They'll send them where they send them and they'll figure something out. I'd put them at 207th so some 46s can get back to Jamaica in advance of Broadway needing more NTTs for SAS and (possibly) service.

North of 36th could use it, especially on weekends when the runs irregularly. Service at 9th Street, a major transfer point, is miserable. Of course, that could be fixed by sending the local on weekends (which would also shut up Brighton riders wanting an easy ride to 6th Avenue, as a same-platform transfer would be available).

You beat me to it. I'll add that 95th can't take another service unless the faces large cuts. As it is, both tracks are usually filled by a train. A train pulls out and another one fills that same track within a couple of minutes.

Oh, boy. I'll assume that Montague is back open: Runs via 6th Avenue from W4 to 59th, local except on 6th Avenue Suspended Suspended All local except on 6th Avenue Via 6th Avenue Via Cranberry Suspended north/west of Essex, runs to Chambers Street. Via tunnel, local Via tunnel, local If Montague closed, suspend the between 36th and Whitehall and the north of Court Street. Expect severe delays on all lines

They probably just weld together shorter pieces on site. Longer rails means less on-site welding and shorter installation times.