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Does anyone know how the 151 to Paterson destination sign is set up? I want to create a sign for my signature. Thanks!

While we're on the topic of old and new buses, if you want to catch newer MCI's or Prevosts out of Charleston, your best bet is to look for X22's.  The X17's (especially on weekends tend to run the 43xx MCI's). That's been the trend of late.  The X22 is basically the pearl of the depot (at least it seems that way).

The x19 would be the best bet for the latest and greatest, almost all buses I have ridden on have been new or newish (just my take)  then I might say the x17A and then x22. In my observations as rider on the x19/x22, I see the x17A's at Broadway/Barclay when I'm there.

I've noticed a healthy mix on the x17's on weekends between new and not so new.

Everytime i hear youngnyc's story it really pisses me off because i could totally see it happening to anybody with bad luck. Its so unfortunate that it happened to one of the best members on this forum

I agree NycGamer, unfortunately in every organization you will encounter individuals with very different personalities, work ethics and sadly agendas. We all know more or less what we are "getting in to" as we pursue this line of work. The only thing I can recommend in everyone's day-to-day is to treat everyone fairly and leave work at work (except when networking/helping others out here ).

I am in the process of finishing up the exams for the CDL permit and had a question.

Per the information within other posts, I will apply for the CDL Permit and check the box Excepted Interstate (EI) - (Age 18 or older; operate/expect to operate Excepted Operation Only, must have A3 restriction). The A3 restriction waives the medical requirement as the MTA will do this for us.

http://dmv.ny.gov/commercial-drivers/cdl-medical-certification-requirements

As I plan to take private CDL lessons (and probably obtain the CDL license) before *hopefully* getting called to the MTA, would the A3 restriction prevent me from getting private lessons (and the license)?

Thanks!

Also - I wanted to say, I started the process at the Midtown DMV and they are VERY efficient. You'll take the exams before doing the paperwork. I did one exam the other day and I was in and out in 15 minutes. Whereas the Staten Island DMV was a zoo (I took one look and left). Hopefully, early next week i'll be done.

Hi everyone, well I just became a driver for Greyhound while i continue to wait on mta 4600. So all is great, hope all is great for all of you waiting patiently lol.

Cool! Congratulations on the new job!!

Folks,

Please follow the discussion on the Bus Operator OA Exam 3101 beginning at post 631 (both links will take you there). Some very important information there that is applicable to us.

Thanks!

Does anyone know how long before you report after you go through the whole hire procedure?  I would like to give 2 weeks notice to my job.

From what I am reading here and from what I have been told by others is that we will first be called for a drug test, then from 2-60 days (or possibly longer), the pre-hire paperwork, medical assessments and interview. Then thereafter, (it appears soon, within days after the pre-hire paperwork, medical and interview) that we'll be sent to Zerega Ave for training. Perhaps others can further refine that timeline. As YoungNYCSubwayFan said, there really is no concrete answer, however.

My advice would to use a personal day, if available for the first drug test and if you are solid with your finances, then, maybe consider giving notice.

I would recommend getting a thorough physical done as to possibly identify any issues.

Just as an observation: Per the 2613 Bus Operator thread in early to mid February, HR has reached 26XX candidates out of the 36XX total number of candidates, less than 1,000 prospective candidates remaining, not including anyone who reinstated themselves on the list.

It is interesting indeed.

 

I propose that S44 become a Select Bus Service along Castleton Avenue for a number of reasons.

 

-As the article mentioned, a significant portion of the North Shore right of way was entirely flooded out. Had there been a rail line or bus line there built pre-Sandy, a majority of that line would have been washed away right into the Kill Van Kull.

 

-The S44 operating along Castleton Avenue instead will straighten out the lengthy line. Thus making it easier to place new Select Bus Service stations along the Castleton corridor and give the S46 local a different route to St George using the side streets that the S44 currently operates on.

 

-The S44 Select Bus Service would change ridership patterns ALL across the North Shore. I propose that there also be "branch" runs to/from Teleport and/or West Shore Plaza so that Port Richmond, Mariner's Harbor and Graniteville are still serviced by the areas the North Shore BRT was planned to service.

 

-The map I placed has the S44 SBS making between 15-18 stops making commutes faster from areas that DO NOT currently have any "faster" means of reaching St. George except during the small AM "peak" rush hour window on weekdays.

 

-To add to that, possibly have the S44 SBS service terminate further south at Eltingville Transit Center for connections and Park & Ride there.

 

-The S44 SBS operating to and from the SI Mall and Teleport would mean it could be served by any of the 3 depots, Yukon, Castleton or Meredith if need be for more efficient service.

 

-(That being said, Castleton Depot is a great depot but it should NOT have any Select Bus Services. Leave that for Yukon Depot who is already operating the S79 Select Bus Service and doing a great job at that. That is why I did not mention a S46 SBS or S40 SBS.)

 

-The S44 SBS would probably only travel 30 minutes tops from end-to-end considering that it will be the first North Shore route making only SBS stops the entire route unlike the current format of having the LIMITED buses short-turn or run local after a certain point.

 

-I know I am not the only one who has seen several rather empty S79 SBS running up and down Hylan and Richmond this year. The S44 SBS would be used more by riders than the S79 SBS if given a few years especially with a branch servicing Mariner's Harbor.

 

-All of the Staten Island bus depots are slated to receive new buses this year and the next, which should pave the way for better bus service on Staten Island.

 

 

-The S1 North Shore BRT is not a good idea from the start. For that plan, I would rather have the MTA simply add S90 service in a similar fashion to the new and improved S93; operating every 30 minutes or meeting with each ferry.

That's not the point. The S79 SBS was not all that popular at it's inception either and almost didn't even become a reality for the same reason, yet it is now used very well. The same would happen with a S44 SBS of some sort or any North Shore select bus service. It would take some time but more people would use the line if it became more convenient to use.

 

If a S44 SBS were created it should be operated the same as the S79 SBS, no pre-boarding fare collecting, just operating as a faster limited per say. There is a market for that and people would ride it that do not currently. The S59 and S89 ridership and schedules would be greatly effected by having SBS service along all of Richmond Avenue.

From a North Shore perspective, which I admit I don't know too much about beyond the St. George and Bay Street/Targee St areas, an SBS could work along the routing presented in your post given your familiarity with the area. However, once it crosses from Morningstar to Richmond Avenue, I can see, because of duplication of the s59, the s44 taking on a limited stop role making corresponding stops of the s89 route to Nome Avenue, then to the present stops to the Staten Island Mall to it's current terminus.

In my opinion, extending the route to the Eltingville Transit Center is one of those "would be nice" things, but due to the duplication of the s59 along Richmond Ave, it would only work if there is a transfer restriction between the two routes. Personally, I think the s61 should be extended to the Transit Center. I also think it would be a good idea to either absorb either the s55 or s56 into the s61 due to the anemic ridership of the s55/s56 as well as it's rather short travel times, end to end. Doing this could provide possible weekend service to the South Shore.

However, getting back to an s44 SBS, I disagree that it would have anything more than a minimal effect on the s89. Again, as a former regular on the s89, it runs well in the present form for its targeted ridership demographic. (Slightly OT but) If midday and weekend service is needed to New Jersey, extend either the   10 or 81 one stop to Forest/Richmond Ave. I might write to the Staten Island and Hudson County politicians (specifically North Shore and Hudson Co. Freeholders) to request the PA's vendor which appears to be TUCS (The Ultimate Cleaning Service) to collect ridership statistics on their seasonal shuttle service they are providing between Bayonne and Staten Island as part of the Raise the Roadway (Bayonne Bridge) project.

As for the empty s79-SBS buses, I think this is a result of bunching and possibly overscheduling. I noticed this too.

Actually you're completely wrong about it.  Staten Island has received better transportation primarily because of Staten Island politicians.  It was Vito Fossella who helped to get the HOV lane for the express buses on the Gowanus. That took YEARS of working with the .  I know because I along with other express bus riders were kept abreast by Fossella's office and we also gave feedback about issues with our commutes, etc.  I was extremely grateful to him for fighting for us express bus riders and helping shorten our commutes.  It was really unfortunate that he had to leave politics because I had no problem voting for him if he remained in office.  He also helped to bring more service improvements to the X1 and other South Shore express buses that were dangerously overcrowded.  Michael Grimm (who I also voted for before moving to Riverdale) along with Vincent Ignizio helped to bring a lot of express bus improvements to the South Shore such as the Super Express X22s, along with X17s being extended to Tottenville and the new X21 express bus service.

 

There has also been a continued push for a high speed ferry for YEARS.  The problem is funding for it and coming to agreement on a centrally located area for those who need it most.

I think a lot of credit should also be given to former Borough President and Conservative-party member James Molinaro for his attention to the transportation issues on Staten Island. He did a lot for both public transportation (s79-SBS, s89, ferry and was visible during the 2010 crisis) as well as road/infrastructure improvements (Staten Island Expressway, traffic lights, signage, potholes). Ex-Congressman and convicted drunken driver, Republican Vito Fossella did do well for transportation issues (especially with the SIE repairs) as well as Congressman and City Councilman; personally, I am glad he is out of office.

As for ex-Congressman and convicted felon, Republican Michael Grimm, he did an absolutely excellent job of making his opinion known to the Staten Island Advance, but he didn't really have much of a measurable impact other than statements to the press in my opinion and observations (and thankfully he is out of office). Republican State Assemblyman V. Ignizio is doing a good job.

It's been so long since I've logged on here..

 

I made three years here last month tho

 

How is everyone?

All is well, thank you. Awaiting the release of the list for bus operator from  !

Staten Island is changing very rapidly... The population continues to increase significantly, and the traffic is becoming worse and worse.  More buses (be it local buses or express buses) may not be the solution. Staten Island definitely needs to address the congestion, but the problem is that it doesn't have the infrastructure to support the sudden influx in the population. The other issue is that transportation sucks within Staten Island so everyone either has CARS or takes car service.  Commute times became worse every year for me when I started working until I got fed up and left.  No matter what part of the island you are on, you are usually looking at an hour and 30 minute ride each way or more if traffic is really bad.  If anything Staten Island needs some sort of rapid ferry service, as the SI Ferry is a joke, and if there's snow out forget it.  The express buses often times can't make it up the hills.The 

 

The real dilemma is that everyone is moving to Staten Island for lower housing costs as opposed to more space and it's bringing down the quality of life, yet another reason folks are leaving... It's becoming too crowded, and too many ghetto folks moving in.  When we moved there it was VERY nice, and as more people from other boroughs started coming in, we started seeing changes.  I had considered moving further south on the island, but that would mean a longer commute, and the Mid Island and South Shore are becoming crowded as well, so that left getting the hell out of there.

Again, agree completely with VG8. I'm here on Staten Island as my housing is comparatively not that expensive and for family reasons.

Except for the North Shore and Hylan Blvd above Tysens Lane, specifically, the South and Mid-Shores, more local buses probably won't solve anything or just be completely inefficient use of MTA resources. I feel that rush hour express bus service on the South Shore and deployment is sufficient, though we can discuss some minor tweaks and improvements.

I'll highlight the x17 Tottenville segment as completely unnecessary and the x17 should run from Manhattan to Staten Island until midnight on weekends. The s79-SBS should run later as well.

The idea of a South Shore Fast Ferry is probably not a no-go, especially if the operator charges market rates. The New York Waterway fares for travel across the Hudson River start at $6 one way for a seven minute crossing, for a longer distance the cost could be up to $21 one way (NY Waterway Wall Street to Belford/Atlantic Highlands ferry). Whereas you can park a car at the Huguenot SIR, take an express train and the ferry for $2.50 one way and then simply walk to the financial district. Though as mentioned several times recently in the Staten Island Advance, the SIR is experiencing some reliability issues.

Speaking personally, I am one of the rare individuals on the South Shore of Staten Island that does not currently have a car of his own by choice as the funds for vehicle maintenance, gas, tolls are reallocated so I can travel; I think I barely cracked $100 for gas in 2014 when I had rented cars locally. It does make things difficult not having a car as to get anywhere useful (laundromat, grocery store, local buses on weekends) as it is usually a 20+ minute power walk.

Yeah I think all those terminals for the S44 SBS service are too much. I would just have SI Mall as the only terminal. 

Also, if that happens, I think the S89 should be converted to an SBS route, since it will run alongside the S79 and S44 SBS. Essentially it's entire routing (except the portion in NJ) would be running alongside SBS routes (although it's still a limited) so I think if that were to happen, that should happen.

 

 

Or You can named it the S96 SBS , and reroute S44/S94 to Mariners Harbor.

Not needed for Richmond Avenue. The s59, s44/s94 and s89 are absolutely fine along that road. There is no need for Select Bus Servive on these routes:

- The s59/s44/s94 LTD is redundant after Forest Ave. After Victory Blvd. the s44/s94 LTD is essentially discharge only as anyone going past the Mall is taking the s59 as it goes all the way to Tottenville until evening. From experience, the passenger churn is minimal after Victory and before Richmond Hill and the SI Mall. Also, as there are four travel lanes and properly timed traffic lights, traffic flow moves well.

- The s89 LTD is a 50/50 commuter route for the folks who work in Jersey City and school tripper for students that do not get yellow buses. The bus travels along Marsh Avenue a residential area behind the Staten Island Mall instead of the mall roads as the s44/s59/s79SBS do. From my extensive experience, the s89 in the evenings get passengers at the major intersections, Forest Ave. & Victory Blvd.

The routes are fine along Richmond Avenue. Though, I feel that there should be express bus service directly to Jersey City.

No, I'm serious... Even on my block people had 2 - 3 cars or more and we're not talking about large households either.  The problem is the infrastructure isn't there to support that many vehicles.

Agree completely. Before I left my parent's house, all the adults had their own vehicles, so we had to make room for four cars. My neighbor across the street had about five adults, two parents and three college-age kids, all had their own cars.  Even empty nestors, each adult had their own cars even the elderly couple.

There's an interview for the bus operator position?

MCI, please see the below post from the Bus Operator Exam 2613 Questions thread, post 615 by Rm3271. According to a number of previous posts, there is no structured interview, per se, just a quick overview of your paperwork and medical:

I went yesterday for the pre-interview... You can wear a pair of slacks and a button down shirt, I wore a tie but lots of dudes didn't... You are not actually being interview you're just filling out paperwork. You receive a number as your arrive just like in the DMV and called up to the counter according to your number to hand in your paperwork... So get there early! There's a lot of people but they're there for many different positions. Like it was mention in this forum earlier DO NOT MESS UP THE PAPERWORK! Listen carefully to the representives instructions... Cause you will be place at the back of the group if your paper is not correct. After your paperwork is ok and cleared by one of the representives you are sent to take the drug screening which is a pee test and you will blow to check for alcohol... You must blow 0.00. You are then done with the pre-interview. If your background and drug screening come back negative you will be called by medical to take a physical, make sure you give a phone number that you check everyday! They won't call twice. The physical is just a 19A physical.... The Rep. Said expect to be there all day maybe from 7.30 to 5pm only cause there's a lot of different people taking it not just us that pass exam 2613 but people that are getting hired for conductor, dispater, track worker etc... 19A physical includes: Eye Test, Blood Pressure Screening, Diabetes Test (blood sugar level) and yes TA gives an EKG test. Once you pass all that... Congratulations you're hired! Good luck fellas!

Also, can anyone please confirm whether or not their is a blood test, that is: Will the MTA doctors/medical team be taking a blood sample?

Thanks!

Thanks Young for the Eyewitness News link! as well as the handouts.  

Once the weather gets a little to my liking or if we hear anything on 4600, I'll make it a point to go for some lessons. Already I have been checking my mirrors more often and doing the push-pull method when making turns. It takes a little getting used to, but it's doable.

Let's review the timeline and where we stand for Exam 4600 - New York City Transit Bus Operator:

We all took the written exam on the 14th or 15th of December 2013.

The proposed answer key was released to us on 23 January 2014; we self-calculated a preliminary score based on what we recorded in the Candidate's Personal Record of Answers.

On 04 October 2014 many of us took the Bus Operator Selection Survey (BOSS) . To my knowledge no grade is assigned and no-one I know has received their results if they passed, failed or if there were any affect on their candidate status.

Those who did not take the Bus Operator Selection Survey (BOSS) in October 2014 have not yet received notification on when they will be scheduled to do so.

Further, the final answer key and list establishment has not yet occurred. Once this occurs, we will have our list number and we'll know where we rank. Per the      there is currently no expected release date.

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My personal recommendations in the meanwhile:

As the hiring process for the active NYCT list from Exam 2613 which was released in November 2013 is at least 70% complete based on the information that other NYCTF members have shared, we can reasonably anticipate that the list will be exhausted and closed at some point this year. This will depend on how many candidates accept the position as well as the hiring needs of the Department of Buses.

I would advise those who calculated high scores:

- Plan on getting the Commercial Drivers License Permit in the near future.

- Identify and address any health issues.

- Gather necessary documents and list of employment.

- Above all, follow all traffic regulations religiously!

Good Luck!
 

Hey guys I had a more general question. Ok so when I started the mta process I was living in one place and I moved and my father recieved the letter for the BOSS but I also received a phone call for the BOSS. Now I went on the mta site and did an address change to my current address and sent it to the email provided me. Now the question is how do I know if it was updated to my new address? Is there somewhere I can call to see if the address they have is my current one?

You should reply to the e-mail you sent to them and ask if the update has been made. When I made an inquiry, they responded to me within 48 hours.

This would be your best bet.

I would think the opposite that the pace would slow down. They have hired a ton of drivers over the last year, probably close to 1000.  IMO after 2613 is done [4600] will take awhile like the prior TA test before 2613. I hope that is not the case though as my brother took 4600. These old timers on the job just do not want to retire !! No incentive too, their runs are awesome..work 2 hours..off for 5 hours..work for 2 hours..who has it better than them? Some move up ranks to become dispatcher but they dont really leave for other city/state jobs as they already have there seniority and pay rate built up, new job would mean starting all over. 

I'm largely referring to those who are on this list or those who recently joined the MTA; many people, including myself take several civil service tests. Some may not like the job, but take it anyway as they need employment, but will take the NYPD/FDNY or another job within transit (train operator, etc.) if called.

You are absolutely correct, eventually the pace will slow down as the average employee years of service decreases due to recent onboarding of new staff. Also, as mentioned, broadly economically, costs within the past ten years (housing, tuition, retirements everything else) has increased dramatically, which means that people will be working longer.

Also, looking at it this way, a candidate was in training for Exam 2613 at list number 2100 in early January 2015 and it's early February 2015 and they are at least up to 2499! As long as anyone who wants the job is given a chance, I'm fine, it will be our turn soon..

Well, according to page 464 of that thread (http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/34980-bus-operator-exam-2613-questions/page-464) they were up to the 2100's by the first week of January. Therefore, since it took the HR Dept. approximately a year to get to the half-way point. If this holds true for the remainder of the 2613 list, which means that the list would be finished by late October/early November, then in my prediction, we should get our list numbers by late summer/early fall.

According to a recent post in the Exam 2613 thread, they are up to  24**, so between 2400 - 2499 out of approximately 3600 candidates, so about 67% of the way done. 

Let's see what happens in March 2015 where they are at, that will give us a better picture. My thinking is that they should be finishing up with those who initially deferred and those who are clarifying medical/legal issues. Further, I believe that they'll run through the remainder of the candidates quite quickly, especially if there are a high number of retirees and those who moved on to other city/state jobs or jobs within the  . 

That's a real sign at a stop in Manhattan?

 

Why is stuff like this always in Manhattan. I wish Queens had many interesting sightings.

Yep, check it out, its kinda jarring in my opinion. There are a few on Staten Island as well, Hylan Blvd. near Tysens Lane comes to mind.

Random Thoughts and Musings on the x17:

1) I have recently noticed that some x17 operators are using the Staten Island-bound Bay Ridge code during the weekdays. Seldom do I see the Bay Ridge destination sign used on the weekends.

2) This answers my question as to why the x1 was merged with the x17/x19 stop at Broadway and Barclay in Lower Manhattan. This monstrosity looks like it is from the 1970's, is unnecessarily clunky and I wonder if it doubles as a missile silo. A bus shelter with LCD panel could have been installed and could have been used to display information on delays/detours, next departure etc., maybe an advertisement thus bringing us into the 21st Century. Instead, this:

Who in their right mind would pay $5 for the AirTrain after paying $2.50 for the bus?

 

Most (maybe a little over half) JFK Airport workers get off at the Lefferts Blvd station and catch the Airtrain from there...at least if they actually work in the terminals

AirTrain is free within the airport itself. The   terminal at JFK is at T5 where you can catch the AirTrain.

Also there are a number of bus stops within the airport for cargo, maintenance and administrative functions, I'm going to fan it one of these days:

All -

Please see below from the MTA website:

Bridge and Tunnel Officer, Exam No. 5606 (NEW - UPDATED)
The multiple-choice test for this exam is scheduled to be held on March 7, 2015 and March 21, 2015. All candidates should receive their admission letter by February 27, 2015. If you do not receive an admission letter by March 3, 2015, you must come to the MTA Exam Information Center located in the Lobby of 180 Livingston Street, Brooklyn, NY 11201 between the hours of 9 AM – 3 PM, Mondays through Fridays.

http://web.mta.info/nyct/hr/exams_updates.htm

Thanks

It's not even that bad outside (IMO not enough to just flat out stop bus service like that), I wish someone could call the MTA out on why *all* bus service had to be suspended in an entire borough (assuming the alert is true, which looking at Bustime it may have been, for instance there's only 2 Bx12 buses out and theyre both coming from Pelham Bay. nothing at all from Sedgwick.)

 

I found that the last snowstorm (2 inches of snow, but still) was worse, but since it was a workday, they kept it going. I think they got lazy on a lazy Sunday morning. Then again, you cant see black ice, so IDK...

At 07:00 it was bad on Staten Island. I was driving a SUV on Richmond Avenue past the Eltingville Transit Center and the ABS went off twice despite that I was driving 20-25 MPH knowing there was some icing on the road. Surprisingly the folks doing 40 didn't appear to have any issues.

At 08:00 I almost fell flat several times in the parking lot and observed the s79-SBS and s59 were going real slow.

At 09:15 at Woodrow/AR Kill Road there were about ten people at the s74/x17 stop which is unusual as I take the 09:00 x17 bus on Sundays and we might get two or three people (at the most) from that stop which tells me there could have been problems with the x17. There was one time 2-3 years ago when I was on the x17 and the B/O could not stop the bus from rolling down the hill on Arden Avenue until we got towards the VIllage Greens development. Also, the buses sometimes have difficulty getting up Woodrow Road to the terminal at Huguenot Avenue when there is icing.

Finally, all the Port Authority bridge crossings to/from Staten Island were closed between 08:00 - 11:30. That tells me this was bad and was unexpected.

From the Meeting Booklet:

 

http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/pdf/150120_1030_transit-bus.pdf

 

Express:

X17 receiving 20 minute headways on Saturdays throughout the day (good, those buses carry almost SRO loads to the city itself at 3 PM, until the evening. Now if they can slightly extend the hours of operation in the evening)

Specifically, the headways and start times should be as follows on Saturdays:

To Manhattan

05:00 - 06:00 : 30 minutes

06:00 - 10:00 : 20 minutes

10:00 - 17:00 : 30 minutes

17:00 - 20:00 : 60 minutes

To Staten Island

07:00 - 08:00 : 60 minutes

08:00 - 15:00 : 30 minutes

15:00 - 19:00 : 20 minutes

19:00 - 22:00 : 30 minutes

22:00 - 24:00 : 60 minutes

In comparison to my candidate's personal record of answers to the proposed answer key for the Saturday AM session, I incorrectly answered question 13. However, that was not the question that was bothersome to me as I recorded answers that I was confident on in upper-case and those that were not in lower-case. Answer to question thirteen was recorded in upper-case to my surprise.

With a score of 98.33 ( 1 wrong) do I have a chance of getting called for this position?

With a score like this, I don't think that we (myself included in the one wrong category) need to worry about if we are getting called, but when.

Keep in mind that not everyone took the test to do well, but to just "pass." Although not specifically asked, but worth mentioning, with regards to veteran's/legacy credits, very few folks will get the full ten points for legacy credit or disabled veterans credit. Five points are awarded if you meet the requirements for veterans credits.

Also, although this may be a long-shot, perhaps the question that appeared to be wrong in the proposed answer key may have been challenged by someone and thrown out. So it is theoretically possible that a one wrong could be a 100%.

Additionally, the BOSS exam could have knocked out some folks from eligibility.

Anyways we won't know anything until the actually list is published. Hopefully, in late spring we should hear something. Again, we'll have to see how many bus operators retire or move on to other jobs in the TA or city.

We all need to keep driving safely, stay healthy and be optimistic