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Look at the column headings for Saturday and Sunday. You'll see that the M-F don't match. M-F has Arrive Roslyn on BOTH sides of the Y/N. Below is cut and paste from my message to NICE: I found more typos but not as serious. Look at the N23 and N27 schedules The arrival time at Roslyn for the northbound N23 in the N23 schedule should be the same arrival time for the northbound N23 in the N27 schedule. The N23 shows arrival time at Roslyn at :00 and :30 but the N27 shows arrival time at Roslyn at :59 and :29. They're only off one minute but they should be the same times. Saturday and Sunday schedules look OK in terms of no typos. However, in terms of the Saturday schedule, there is no connection from the southbound N27 to the northbound N23. On other days, you can make a Glen Cove to Manhorhaven connection at Roslyn.

In the MTA document of service cutbacks, there are an average of 16 passengers per each N47 trip and an average of 240 weekday passengers would be impacted by eliminating the route. N47 is rush hour route. It overlaps the N70/71/72 on Hempstead Turnpike, N50 on Newbridge Road, and the N46 between Hempstead and East Meadow.

There are typos in the N27 schedule and on Saturdays, Glen Cove passengers miss the connecting N23 to Port Washington and points north. I wrote to NICE. I expect the internet version of the schedules to be corrected. I don't know if it's too late to correct the paper timetables. NICE hasn't indicated what's going to be done about the missing Saturday connection, which isn't a typo but a planning problem.

I found this information on bus bay assignments: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks_Hempstead_Transit_Center :cool:

Absolutely correct. Even after the MTA took over and could make route changes, there weren't many route changes, except for eliminations. I don't know all of them but I remember Mid-Island ran Hicksville-Oyster Bay, and Hicksville-Syosset, continuing to Walt Whitman. They also ran Massapequa-Huntington via Farmingdale and Rt 110. There used to be a lot of Jones Beach service provided by Hempstead Bus, Mid-Island, Stage Coach, and Jerusalem Avenue. Veolia took over three months ago and knows nothing about county transit history, not that they have to know. I don't know if remembering this info is good or bad. It's good that my memory is functioning but bad I'm old enough to remember.

This is EXACTLY the schedule I was looking. I didn't remember all the details except Uniondale Avenue and N43 is the first route that popped into my head. Look on the right side "See new schedule for Bellmore-Levittown-Hicksville-Plainview and Syosset." The Bellmore to Hicksville segment is today's N50 except Mid-Island couldn't use Newbridge Road into Hicksville. It went crosstown on Hempstead Turnpike and made a left on Wantagh Avenue and another left onto Hicksville Road. The Hicksville-Plainview and Syosset continued to Walt Whitman on Jericho Turnpike.

The original terminal is diagonally across from the current terminal. As best as I can remember, the entrance was off Jackson into what was a little alley. MapQuest shows a short street called Station Plaza. I'm sure I'll be corrected - - if I'm wrong.

There were no county bus maps when the private companies operated their routes. I remember Mid-Island drew a map on their schedule. The type looked like a Royal typewriter. I once found a copy of a Mid-Island schedule on the internet but can't find it now. It resembled today's N43. I just remember Mid-Island operating Hempstead to Huntington via Roosevelt Field. I even remember the old Hempstead Terminal. There's a courthouse at the old location. (I think it's a courthouse.)

Mid-Island Transit's N79 went directly to Roosevelt Field. It couldn't go to Mineola because that route (Mineola-Hempstead-Freeport) was owned by Hempstead Bus.

Mid-Island ran the N79 from Hempstead.

Why does the N24 go to East Meadow in the first place? Can the N46-49 be restructured to pick up these passengers. With all the complaints I've read about slow service, short turning some buses at Roosevelt Field would seem to improve service.

Paying Veolia less than the MTA for more service than the MTA would provide seems like a good thing. Your beef is Magano is protecting his "local" constituents though he is supposed to look out over the entire county. You should contact the the NY attorney general or US attorney to investigate. They've gone after Wall Street execs and I know they would go after corrupt public officials.

I moved out of Nassau County in 1973 and moved into Westchester County last October. The political landscape changed while I was gone. I'm happy to be back!] I don't know anything about Mangano nor Schmitt. The facts to me are 1) the MTA wanted to eliminate service and 2) the county hired Veolia and agreed to pay a subsidy they didn't want to pay the MTA. Service is being reduced on some lines and increased on others. Please fill in some details because I don't understand your anger. If they want people to drive, why was NICE created?:confused:

By short turning the N27 at Roslyn, NICE plans to drop two buses from the schedule. They should build the timetable with Roslyn as the control point for the N23 and N27 to ensure a good connection. The truncated N27 has to meet the north and south bound N23.

What is DSS?

Once a transit company makes up its mind what it wants, the public meetings are usually pro forma.

How does running the N74 on Wantagh Avenue mitigate lost service on the N80/N81 on Hicksville Road?

Below is the official answer from the County: I appreciate your question regarding NICE buses efforts to reduce general operating costs in regards to our contract in Nassau County. As preciously mentioned, Veolia has been able to reduce costs through various different methods which include, but are not limited to, favorable fuel cost contracts, reduced administration head count, favorable parts procurement agreements, etc. I am not able to supply you with a detailed line by line accounting of these savings but they affect every aspect of our operations in Nassau. Additionally by carefully and methodically understanding the way our riders use the current system, our system planners have carefully adjusted the system to minimize the effects on riders while maximizing the savings to the County. We pride ourselves on offering safe, reliable transportation to the Citizens of Nassau County and will continue to look for ways to both improve the current system and increase our service levels. Thank you, Danielle Bachor Communications Manager Nassau County Why the generalities sound nice (no pun intended), I don't understand how Veolia found these efficiencies after operating the system for a few months but the MTA NEVER found them. I don't live in the County but I'm providing this information in case a County resident wants to pursue this issue with the Comptroller. A side issue is if Veolia could reduce costs by 32%, are MTA costs too high for train service? The more answers I get, the more questions I have.B):tup:

The running time on the N19 is longer than the N54. Deadhead time to Freeport and Bablyon is definitely more than deadhead time to Hempstead or Amityville at the other end. I'd be very surprised if the N54/55 was a RVC route. I'd expect the old Bee line routes to be out of RVC.

That was impossible in this case. With a planned April 8 schedule change, two months in advance would be February 8. Veolia took over January 1 and didn't release the proposed changes until a few weeks ago. It took the MTA months to analyze ridership before making major schedule and route changes a few years ago. And then there were public meetings.

I wanted to quantify the above explanation and I found a partial explanation. I looked at the NICE Veolia contract on the internet. The County's comptroller reviewed the NICE contract and came up with a variable fee rate of $87.12/vehicle hour. The comptroller estimated MTA vehicle hour cost of $128 hour. That's a reduction of $35/hour which is HUGE. I sent this information to Veolia through the NICE website and I hope to get an explanation. The NICE website states that Veolia has found efficiencies. I want to know what they are. This implies that the MTA is overcharging the State to operate regional bus and subway services. If Veolia can find efficiencies, why can't the MTA? Something isn't adding up.

That means that all the decisions have been made. You can't design pick lists until all the bus schedules are determined. The runcutters are checking their work to ensure there's an operator for every scheduled trip every day.

Right now, N46 interlines with N50 at Bellmore.

This implies that interlining is done on the 23 operator's RDO. For some reason, a relief assignment doesn't take the 23 operator's work and it's covered by interlining.

I'm surprised the 23 is interlined with the 79. The 23 arrives Mineola at :16 and :46 leaves at :29 and :59. The 79 arrives at :17 and :47 and leaves at :55 and :25. Since the arrival times of 23 and 79 are only one minute apart and their departures are within four minutes of each other, I don't understand the need to interline.