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2 hours ago, Ale188 said:

SEPTA putting its new metro signs at 30 St station

You’re late on this one

2 hours ago, Ale188 said:

The fact that the Luminator is green on 701 brings back some nostalgia for me.

Love that shit. Looking forward to seeing this in service.

This is the first of 10 buses that will be in service out of Midvale District. It could be on: 16, 22, 23, 26, 32, 35, 39, 53, (56), 61, 62, 77, (80), H, L or XH. Routes in parentheses also operate with articulated buses. Not listed are routes that are  split with Southern and  articulated routes. 

50 minutes ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

I heard the UFT is suing them as well, which is silly. If I were a public school teacher who works in Midtown, I would take mass transit to get there. Traffic is horrible and it's practically impossible to find parking in Midtown.

The UFT is the teachers Union and teachers are part of the city as well, but that’s another story for the topic. To the R211 topic, there will be enough for the  &  to cover the fleet when all this is said & done. 

1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

There are 17 separate lawsuits against it. I’m telling you it’s not happening in July 😂

Frivolous or fabricated lawsuits. People want money the easy way

Septa Retired buses so far: 

2005 NF D40LF: 8000-8045, 8046 (fire), 8047 (fire), 8048-8119

2008 NF DE41 LF: 8120, 8122, 8128-8130, 8134, 8138, 8147, 8148, 8154-8157,8161, 8163-8164, 8167-8170, 8173, 8177, 8197, 8200-8219

2009 NF DE41LF: 8220, 8223-8227, 8231, 8235, 8240-8242, 8245-8246, 8253, 8258, 8260, 8269, 8275-8277, 8281-8282, 8285, 8289, 8291, 8294-8295, 8297-8307, 8313, 8313, 8323, 8326-8339

2010 NF DE40LFR: 8345,8366,8382,8384,8386-8389,8391,8392,8394,8395,8396 

2011 NF DE40LFR: 8536

On 4/18/2024 at 5:37 PM, Ale188 said:

UPDATE ON THE R211S AS OF 4/18/24

R211s in service

R211A: 130 cars, or 13 10-car trains, all trains currently run on the  line

4060-69, pilot,

4070-74, 4125-29

4075-79, 4120-24

4080-89

4090-99

4100-04, 4130-34

4105-09, 4190-94

4110-14, 4140-44

4115-19, 4135-39

4145-49, 4165-69

4160-64, 4195-99

4170-79

4180-89

R211T: 20 cars, or 2 10-car trains, all trains currently run on the  line

4040-49

4050-59

Total amount of R211s in service: 150

Other consists not in service yet

R211A:

4150-59, At Jamaica Yard

4200-09, BIT'd a bit ago

4210-19, BIT'd more recently then 4200-09

4220-34, Delivered recently, at CIY and Pitkin respectively

R211S:

100-104, no words

Total amount of NIS R211s: 50

Notes: Back on schedule! All previously in service R211s are back on the tracks after a ~6 month hiatus with these issues! Now let's just hope this doesn't happen again any sooner.

R211 Deliveries

R211A: 4060-4234, 175 cars or 17 10-car sets and 1 5-car set; Pretty much every set at Pitkin

R211T: 4040-4059, 20 cars or 2 10-car sets; all at Pitkin

R211S: 100-104, 5 cars or 1 5-car set; set at Clifton

Total number of cars delivered: 200

Notes: The fact that there's still 335 more cars to be delivered to the city just in the abse order kills me.

R211s confirmed as built

Alleged results included...

R211A: 4235-4314, 80 cars or 8 10-car sets (4235-89 most likely built since there's someone here that we can all rely on; 4290-4314 allegedly built)

R211S: 105-134, 30 cars or 6 5-car sets (115-134 allegedly built)

Total cars built and not delivered: 110

Notes: Just hope these are confirmed by September. And if they are, we are just one step closer to completing the Base Order, except there's still maybe around 1,000 more that need to be built if they are confirmed by the MTA themselves

Add that up with the delivered cars and you get...

255 R211As (4060-4314);  under construction + 640 from Option Order I and God knows what from Option Order II

20 R211Ts (4040-4059); completed

35 R211Ss (100-134); 40 under construction

310 R211s in total, (100-134, 4040-4314)

Yet any Pitkin Pullmans retired...good for them.

Notes: Well, damn.

R211 Delivery timeline

4060-4064: June 29-30, 2021

4065-4069: July 15-16, 2021

4040-4044: November 1-2, 2022

4045-4049: November 15-16, 2022

4050-4054: January 26-27, 2023

4070-4074: March 16, 2023

4075-4079: March 28-29, 2023

4080-4084: April 5-6, 2023

4085-4089: April 25-26, 2023

100-104: May 3-4, 2023

4055-4059: June 7-8, 2023

4095-4099: June 21, 2023

4120-4124: June 27-28, 2023

4110-4114: July 18-19, 2023

4090-4094: July 19-20, 2023

4125-4129: August 9, 2023

4115-4119: August 10, 2023

4100-4104: August 17, 2023

4105-4109: August 22-23, 2023

4130-4134: August 29-20, 2023

4140-4144: September 12-13, 2023

4135-4139: September 14, 2023

4145-4149: September 20-21, 2023

4150-4154: September 27, 2023

4155-4159: October 3-4, 2023

4160-4164: October 18-19, 2023

4165-4169: January 23, 2024

4195-4199: January 25, 2024

4190-4194: February 1, 2024

4170-4174: February 7-8, 2024

4175-4179: February 14, 2024

4180-4184: February 27, 2024

 

4185-4189: February 29, 2024

4205-4209: February 29, 2024

4200-4204: March 13, 2024

4205-4209: March 14, 2024

4210-4214: March 26, 2024

4215-4219: April 3, 2024

4220-4224: April 9, 2024

4225-4229: April 11, 2024

4230-4234: April 17,2024

Notes: No time to stop.

R211 In service Timeline

4060-64, 4065-69: March 10, 2023

4070-74, 4075-79: June 29, 2023

4085-89, 4095-99: August 3, 2023

4080-84, 4120-24: August 17, 2023

4090-94, 4125-29: September 7, 2023

4110-14, 4115-19: September 14, 2023

4100-04, 4105-09: October 5, 2023

4130-34, 4135-39: November 3, 2023

4040-44, 4050-54: February 1, 2024

4045-49, 4055-59: February 5, 2024

4145-49, 4165-69: February 12, 2024

4140-44, 4160-64: February 27, 2024

4190-94, 4195-99: March 5, 2024

4170-74, 4175-79: March 8, 2024

4180-84, 4185-89: April 2, 2024

Notes: You shoulda stopped reading.

But besides that, I hope you liked this! Only did it because 200 R211s are delivered! I'll do this again when ~250 R211s are delivered or when there's too much going on.

They haven’t got to excercise Option II yet. Let Option 1 play out first before Option 2 is officially placed in order. 

The above post part 2: SEPTA NF XHE40 701 is part of a 30 bus order which includes 10 Battery operated bus in 40’ and 2 different articulated buses, 5 buses each of battery & hydrogen. The Hydrogen buses are also replacing the 82xx series in Midvale and transferring 5 73xx to Comly. The electric 10 buses could be heading to either Frankford or Comly for 81xx/83xx/84xx replacements and 5 articulated to Allegheny. 

On 4/15/2024 at 5:01 PM, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

No idea. The accident was this morning so just wait a bit for someone with the actual info to come forward with it.

But it also depends on the need of this bus. If the accident was minor, then yes, bus can be repairable and return to service when deemed operational. That’s up to the depot’s maintenance crews and the dispatcher. If the bus is not, then this bus will be used for parts once a second used bus arrives at the depot within the time of call. But since this bus is 16 years old, then it’s time to go. 

SEPTA NFXHE40 701 has landed. These buses, numbered 701-710 will be assigned to Midvale Depot 

21 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said:

Septa cancelled its order with the chinese car manufacturer crrc for it's double decker commuter cars

There were problems from the very start. wiring, emergency exit windows, and failed watertightness and brake-test failures were the biggest issues that have plagued these cars since the first 2 cars were built. So for all the excitement about the bi-level cars, it’s gone out the window

16 minutes ago, ArchytectAnthony said:

Personally, I kind of wish the sets coming from Nebraska were delivered this way but its trucked halfway across the country one by one rn. I assume the reason they're not delivered by rail is because either costs, Class I freights being sucky as usual or some other logistical issue. But idk lol.

The reason it’s not done by rail because of previous accidents on the tracks. So They use 3 to 5 oversize fit trucks to deliver them to Brooklyn. They are lead by either a pickup truck or a car with yellow sirens on them to let other vehicles know to pass them. These excess weight trucks have a restriction on speed. 

3 hours ago, Ale188 said:

Consists (as of now because some switched, correct if wrong)

4040-49

4050-59

4060-69

4070-74, 4125-29

4075-79, 4120-24

4080-84, 4195-99

4085-89, 4160-64

4090-99

4100-04, 4130-34

4105-09, 4190-94

4110-14, 4140-44

4145-49, 4165-69

4170-79

4180-89

4115-19, 4135-39?

4150-59 at Jamaica

4200-09 BIT

4210-14 should connect with 4215-19 soon

4220-29 at CIY (unless 4220-24 transferred)

Switcharooney after switcharooney.

I wouldn’t even list them as this. I’ll go as what’s in service, what’s in BIT, and what got here. All others it’s just wait & see

4 hours ago, LGA Link N Train said:

I saw 4150-4154 and co. at Jamaica Yard yesterday. Don't know if its still there.

It’s there only for CBTC testing only. 

On 4/9/2024 at 10:37 PM, Wallyhorse said:

Yep!  That is EXACTLY how it was.  The  often was six cars on weekends as I remember going to Shea for Mets games then. 

Also, the  was six cars during rush hours.  

6 cars on the (7), especially during baseball games? That’s pathetic! They should’ve treated baseball fans of yesteryear than what they do today. 
 

I only counted off peak hours, not peak because most of the lines were full length, with the exception of the  & the . The very short AA becomes the long CC during peak hours, so they do share the same car lengths 

1 hour ago, BreeddekalbL said:

How long does that typically take 

4-6 weeks. Remember: cars must be redeemed “Safe to operate” by said yard before it can be placed in revenue service. So far, 13 R211As and 2 R211T sets (130/20) are in service. 

8 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said:

With those arrivals how long till typically it enters service?

You have to factor that:

1. It has to go to CI for installation of gates and programing

2. then it goes from CI to Pitkin fir training and non revenue burn in

3. once it is deemed ready, the cars will enter service. 

15 hours ago, Seth Jonas said:

R211A 4235-4310 is bulit

 

Unless you have been to the Kawasaki plant, do you have any sources confirming that these cars up to 4309 have been built? 

11 hours ago, nikitos6712 said:

14 hours ago, Ale188 said:

 

 

15 hours ago, Seth Jonas said:

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Wallyhorse said:

I actually rode a few  trains that were shortened, especially doing messenger work in 1980-'81 when I believe they were really short on trains due to many of them being unavailable for service.  Most of those trains were five cars.  This was before and after the infamous day in January 1981 when one-third of the entire fleet was unavailable due to cars having issues. 

So many breakdowns, especially on the R17/21/22 cars. Many of these cars has massive flats. I lived to see a train being taking out of service because of flats. R21 7156 on the  was a problem and a half! It was good for 3 stops: (174th to Simpson), but after it, the train pulled hard, causing the trune wheels to break, then it ran from Simpson all the way to 149th St-GC before the motorman discharged everybody off. That whole time, I heard the dispatcher saying discharge at 149th St, and take the train to the Concourse Yard, so the train went oos carrying that car plus 7561+8924-8925+7140+7553+9014-9015+9032-9033. The train reversed and stayed on the middle track on the  to BPB. 

The shortening of lengths go way back to the mid to late 1970s and it follows during off peak hours on evenings, nights and weekends: 

,  & : 5 cars 

: 8 cars 

: 6 cars 

: 8 cars 

: 4 R44 cars and 6 R38 cars

: 4 cars at all times except peak and nights 

, , ,  {6th Ave Local from 57th St}: 8 cars 

, : 4 cars R46 

, , : 4 cars 

All other subway lines did not operate. 
the  & all  lines are normal

12 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

So why is the  and Lefferts Shuttle  the only remaining services to use five car sets late nights?

Would it not save money to just keep them as 10 car sets?

Passenger volume is less during overnights 

5 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

So far I think only 1 8-car train was transferred to Coney Island, to allow 1 R68 train to transfer to Concourse. Remember that the  train is back in full service so the  needs more R46s. It’s about a 60/40 split of R46s to R179s on the  since ENY needs their cars again. So we have to wait until some 4200 series R211s hit the tracks before another set of R46s transfers to keep the spare factor high 

Don’t forget the R211Ts on the C

48 minutes ago, BreeddekalbL said:

I thought mets willets point was already ADA?

Actually, none of MWP is accessible 

On 3/29/2024 at 9:07 PM, mikecintel said:

100% agreed with you.  It is Zero customer service.  Basically the suggestion or question made to the MTA it is like talking to robot.  Yup they simply "don't care" and they only care about jacking the price do false advertising until when something major happen and the NTSB or some other agency investigate the MTA and then they get their act together.  Yes we need another Byford is what we need and that is truly customer service. I miss Byford.  The MTA is going down hill.  I wonder when another company will "acquire" the MTA.Hmmmm.

The only way that the MTA is gonna change for the better isn’t done by the MTA themselves. History traces way back to where merges are a thing now. You saw how private bus companies were being taken over when they’re bankrupt, they sell their assets to the city themselves. The BOT took over every bus company from 1940-1950, then were succeeded by the  in 1953 until 1968 when the  took over. Only one bus company is off the MTA: Long Island Bus, now Nassau Inter County Express. In 2011, the MTA forced LIB to pay its fare share or have a draconian cuts to its routes. Nagano said “Hell No” and the agreement ended. On 1/1/2012, LIB became NICE. 
so there could be a new company if someone can get  things: 

1. start up

2. signatures 

9 hours ago, Kamen Rider said:

maybe you all should have thought about that before you started calling for Airtrain LGA to be canceled, as that would have given the entire Willets Point station complex a full renovation. 

You just stole my words what I was about to say. 

11 hours ago, Chris89292 said:

I wonder why the MTA hasn’t made Mets Willets point accessible, when will the board members act and do something🤷‍♂️

If you and the rest of your NIMBY friends and neighbors said no to the Airtrain to LGA, then Mets-Willits Point (Willits Point Blvd originally, and a local station to top it off) would’ve been accessible maybe either now or next year. Be careful of what you wish for! What you didn’t wanted back then is now what you regret now.