DrewMania

On 12/18/2018 at 11:02 PM, +Young+ said:

Very nice comment...I actually just restored my name to the B/O 4600 list, therefore I'll keep you folks posted in that thread, respectively.

I also plan on being down there in January as well...

According to the Notice of Examination, by the time of appointment (aka the time you go down to 180 Livingston Street), you need the CDL permit. With the fact that it will probably be at least a year before this list is established, I wouldn't worry about that right now, unless you have the $$ to get the CDL. Just make sure your regular license stays relatively clean, such as no DWI/DUI, no more than 4 points at any time, maximum of two accidents (regardless of who's at fault), no suspensions, etc., and that's it.

Honestly it maybe less then a year. 2019 is a big retirement year. The B/O’s in my depot alone is losing around 70 operators. Not to mention the big L train Shut down coming. So a lot of the people off this list don’t be surpirse if it’s faster then you think.

Also that last TA exam not a lot of people pass that test so they’re gonna fly i mean fly thru that. 

8 hours ago, TO legacy said:

He gave up because he felt he couldn’t pass what thousands of people sucked it up and gave it they all. 

If FDNY calls then go, but I don’t want to hear none of that this is too much bullshit as there are thousands that would of gave a left nutt to have been in his place. 

He’s a clown and anybody making excuses for taking up a spot as a TO needs to step off this list.  Period. 

Be ready or beat your feet. 

He knew he wouldn’t cut it. They told us that day one “if you feel you can’t do this job get up and leave now don’t waste our time.” And him leaving hell! He just open the door for someone who’s really in need of such a great position. He just became they’re “GOT DAMN HERO”!

1 hour ago, MarkGuy said:

Hope I'm there too. Did p/e last Wed and tried calling the office multiple times today for updates. It's Veterans' Day, but trains don't seem to be on a holiday sked, so don't know what's going on today.

180 livingston is HR so think of it as  corporate which it is. Every major holiday they are off. 

Subways, busses is operational they run completely different. Our schedule don’t have to be recognize as a holiday but most likely corporate position will be!

Try tomorrow early. 

17 hours ago, Dave160 said:

List 1,65X and got the letter a couple of days ago for pre-employment for Nov. 29th. I'm weighing my options but am probably gonna try to defer my list number for a year or so, so I can finish my Bachelor's degree. Don't know if it's a dumb decision yet, but we'll see.

Good luck to everyone continuing with pre-employment and beyond!

Never a dumb decision to finish up on the goals you set for yourself! Before starting a new Journey! Do you thing my ninja. MTA ain’t going no where! 

18 hours ago, Mr NewFlyer said:

@DrewMania wouldn't know about having a difficult instructor. Because his instructor was actually one of the best instructors ever lol.

 

Me on the other hand had an instructor that was just like that at first. I used to think she was sent from hell lol. Me and my classmates were all scared. She would literally yell at anything and everything wrong you did.

now that im in line training and in the real world. I understand why she was the way she was. Its because what she was teaching us was serious. And we had to get it right with her so when we go out in the real world, we wouldn't make the same mistake that would cause an accident or get someone killed. At the end of the day your driving around a 40 ton bus that if you don't operate correctly can be used as a weapon. Also keep in mind that if the instructor passes you and you go and  get into an accident and hurt someone. They will go looking for that instructor.

I really didn't like my instructor at the beginning, But at the end I started to like her and even started joking around with her.

From personally going through what you just described, what I would suggest is first, Listen, Not hear noises coming out the instructors mouth, But listen to everything they have to say. Listening and hearing are two different things.

Do everything exactly the way they tell you to do it. You have to go there with the mindset that you are learning driving from scratch. And that you will have to drive the way they are teaching you to drive.

I would say day 1-4, Absorb everything taught. Go home and read over all your notes every night. Days 5-6 try to get everything right, day 7 execute everything you learned. Try your best to qualify on day 7. What ever you do try to get it all before day 10. Because day 10 you will have 2 instructors with you on the bus and it will be 10x harder. Those yellow papers the instructor gives you at the end of each day, Read over them, The mistakes written on them, Correct them on the next day. Don't be discouraged when your instructor writes you a paragraph of wrong things you did that day. Use it to improve. I had almost a page of mistakes on mines, But everyday I improved, cleaned everything up and qualified on day 7.

The 10 day training felt more difficult then the actual road test to get the CDL. And I had previous experience driving a similar bus that the mta has.

So while its not easy, its also not impossible. listen, apply what you learn and you will have no problem making it through.

 

What ever happens with the instructor or what ever they say or yell. You can't take it personal and don't get intimidated. The moment you start taking it personal and let it get to you the harder it becomes. The 10 days fly by, So take it day by day, BREATH, Everything will be ok. Believe in yourself.

 

That would be my best advice from dealing with a tough instructor. But I hope everyone can get a good instructor

 

Yeah, @Mr NewFlyer is right my instructor was one of the cool ones! He made you feel comfortable to be in the seat. But because of his back ground in the service whenver you put the bus or someone else in harms way the man become different lmao. But after he yell on you he’ll pull you aside and express himself and a more claim way to get his point across. 

Now Mr newflyer instructor was a piece of work the stories is nothing wait until you see her in action lmao she was something but word has it that none of her students get into any issues after they pass her 7 to 10 day training. Even the one person she didn’t pass on day 7 is more comfortable behind the way today when he drives. Why because he learned you have to block all that out while remaining  in control of that bus. 

What we basically saying is everyone teaching styles is different some come out all reckless from jump others sneak up on you. Some will pull the brake on you and tell you get out the seat your done for today. You have to just have to take what info they preaching or yelling to you and run with it. 

Trust me you’ll do great! 

1 hour ago, +Young+ said:

I have a question that I think other folks, whether guests or members are willing to ask:

When I was in college, primarily undergrad, I would use ratemyprofessor.com to try to "pick" a good Professor, especially for those "Gen Ed" classes when I had a little bit of leeway to take either this class or that class, etc. From what I remember 4 1/2 years ago, long story short, the instructor had a very nasty attitude. I don't know if it was because I had no experience driving a bus or whatever the reasoning is.

Therefore, @DrewMania, if a student has an instructor he/she doesn't like, what would you suggest? Try to absorb as much information as possible, especially on Day 5 and try to pass on Day 9?

My advice to be honest is to pull that person aside and tell them at the end of the day you trying to get a job and they trying to belittle you isn’t cool. You have to speak up for yourself. But also grasp that sometimes they trying to show you that a customer can be doing the same yelling at you but you have to remain cool under pressure and drive that bus safely. Don’t ever be afraid to approach that person. 

Trust after that training a customer could never phase me. I’ll just laugh and say i’ve been thru much worst. First time driving a bus and someone yell at you top of they lungs after hitting that brake on you sending you and your classmates flying lmao. You’ll never be phase by anything on that bus. Lmao. 

24 minutes ago, Magnum said:

While I'm sorry to hear this, I'm not sure what makes this different from many of whom are here...completed the medical, a 2nd urine test (as the first one was clean but about to expire after 30 days) and was told they'd hear back within 30 days. All this since mid-october. Are ya'll recommending we ignore 'hiring freeze' and go and talk to Ms. Rivera?

Yes unless MTA personally told you it was a hiring freeze which i know not to be true because i just received letters from the agency telling me to come in for pre-employment. 

1 hour ago, Elmonchi06 said:

Gm, I have a Quick question they are hiring again for the exam 7105 cause I was the at MTA last month oct 23 and I have a Class A license and the guy called my name and told me that I had to get a class B permit with P endorsment. I did all that he told me to do and I'd call them every day and I couldn't get a app. Ty

My advice is if you still have your notice which you should. You should go back down to 180 livingston and speak with someone face to face. Imform them of the issue and go from there. Which they’ll probably just pull you in. Truth be told you probably would’ve been in training already. Because it’s nothing to go get a Class B with P. I mean hell i know a female who went to the DMV the same day got her permit and came right back to finish her pre-employment. Only thing she’s been studying to get it for a minute. 

Calling them isn’t always the best solution. 

46 minutes ago, Mrhands0me said:

Congratulations, I got the letter also I’m list 183*, i also gotta be there December 4th, I’m super excited hopefully this goes by fast and I’m in, I been working 11+ years at my other job but no pension which sucks, but my girlfriend and I wanna start a family soon so this really is a blessing. I have a squeaky clean driving record, I just hope they don’t give me a problem cause I wear glasses. But good luck everyone, and god bless.

That’s what’s up! Lol i wear glasses to my ninja. I mean they smooth glasses lol but they glasses. As long as you got them on when you go in for your medical your fine. Don’t show up without them because they’ll put you on hold.  If you wear contact lenses just bring a pair of your glasses as well so they can see you have options just on case. 

Other then that you should be fine. Oh watch out for how you answer them sleep apnea questions! Just some advice seen one to many people put on hold for falling asleep in front of the TV. And of course It happens but if you say it happens a lot. They’ll want to know why. You’ll see what i mean when you do the questionnaire down at livingston.

55 minutes ago, +Young+ said:

So, just to make it official, you passed, right? If so, congrats!! Any advice for those who are about to enter the 10-day training session, besides what you already said?

Yeah I pass on day 7 and achieved my CDL on my first trip. My advice to those is to listen to your supt. (instructors) they all teach different some come off different then others. Some can be direct straight to the point where it can seem harsh and others are more patient with you. From day 2 you’ll know what kind of person your dealing with. Just listen and hold on to everything you can. 

Scan them mirrors. That’s key to passing! They wanna know you seeing and forward planning like they are. If they pull the brake on you don’t feel away find out why take it in and learn from it. It’s a simple program but it can go by fast. So i say learn the person your working with ask questions. Your classmates are a big help as well because if something they do wrong you can learn from they mistakes and use it and visa versa. So communicate become coworkers and help out. Those who talk and cheer each other on all win.

My training class we all reach out and help one another with issues we was facing and we all pass day 7 so it can happen work together as well as do your thing. 

Another thing watch them bikers on day 6 lower manhattan they will and i mean will sneak up on you. 

Good luck to you all! I’m at Grand Av depot let me know when you come thru i’ll be one of the first to congratulate you!  

The CDL training isn’t as hard as some of you may think. I went in with my premit and i had to do everything the new way. It’s literally still fresh in my mind lmao. 

After you pass your 10 day. MTA will literally let you know everything you need to know on how to pass the CDL road exam they will give you all the tools. From the Pre-Trip to performing the maneuvers to even taking you thru the road course to show you what to look out. So trust me get your CDL premit and go from there. Not to mention it’s cheaper the MTA way. 

Oh and did i mention your getting paid to basically get your license. So instead of spending thousands to get it your getting paid thousands to obtain it i’m just saying! I like the MTA way better.

One more thing you ask me the 10 day training is way harder then the CDL road test. So if you can pass what they put you thru those 7 to 10 days then trust me you’ll pass that road test no sweat! 

32 minutes ago, onlyambition said:

I also received my letter for pre employment. They are really flying through this list. List # 189*. See u Dec 4th

Yea they are. But word up here. They saying that a lot of T/O’s are going to be retiring while the L train is out of service so they wanna get as many in and trained now before they lose a mass number of operators. Which is perfect but i have a feeling soon as the L shut down they gonna freeze the hiring  process for T/O’s for a while. Mainly because they already gotta relocate a large number of L line operators plus the new ones they bringing down. 

So get in! get in now! Me on the other hand i’ll be making all that overtime from the L shuttles that us B/O’s can’t wait for lmao. It’s gonna be epic everyone up here already talking about 150k plus the first year. 

Nah won’t see me on the 4th go! Get that job and don’t forget to come back and share your experience with everyone! Good luck! 

15 minutes ago, FutureBOtoTO said:

When do you clear probation? I clear mine December 26th but Train Operator is a childhood dream of mine. I can't pass that up. 

Tell me about it i’ve always wanted to operate them trains since i can remember but i don’t clear for a another 6 months. I don’t like to play the everything in one basket game i like multiple outcomes to a situation. 

Accept this now without finishing that probation period is to much of a gamble. I waited years to be apart of the Agency. I’m not trying to lose my spot. Regardless! T/O will forever be there. Besides we basically got 4 long years with this current list. More then enough time to reinstate. 

Just received my letter for pre-employement on Dec 4th. My list # 184*. 

I’m currently a B/O and since i haven’t completed my year of probation yet i’m going to decline the position. 

Hey one less to worry about lmao. Wanna wish you all the best and hope yall get in before this Big time L train shut down! 

12 hours ago, msmcmillan said:

Hey guys, I have a question about this exam and switching titles.

I told a co-worker that retired from MTA a few years ago that I received a pre-employment letter for T/O but I'm declining it. He said that is a stupid move and I should start the process because if you find being a T/O too much you can downgrade to B/O. I heard of downgrading to Cleaner title, but not a B/O. Maybe that was true when he was at MTA, but I don't think that is true today. He said because it is a promotional title you can transfer without being on the B/O list. Have any of you heard of such a thing? I told him you can only transfer if you are on the list and called for that title. He said no, and we argued for hours. 

If anyone is knowledgeable about this, please clarify. Honestly, I think I'm right! 

What he speaks of is true (at least was at one point). T/O is a TA position they have B/O positions as TA. You can take a promotional exam from B/O to T/O if your TA only. If your OA or MTA bus you can’t be promoted into that title. You have to take a  Open competitive exam. But if you was already a B/O you can downgrade back into a B/O from a T/O but once again you have to be TA already. 

8 hours ago, Trevx95 said:

MaBSTOA is not hiring nomore bus operators for a while. They have enough drivers to cover the manhattan area of the L train, so there is a freeze on Mabstoa. TA is still hiring drivers because the brooklyn area of the L train shuttle is not full they need as much drivers as they can get. I hope you all had a back up and was not only depending on this MTA job good luck to all.

I hope so as well! Every and any job you see for the Agency APPLY do not wait! And please do not put all your hopes into one position! Get into the door and move around after that. The opportunities are endless!

FACTS! 

3 hours ago, 2nice said:

Just called the exam unit n the lady told me that u must have 1yr and be off probation in order to come back. I'm sure it happens ALL the time when someone leave a city agency while on probation for another city agency. There's no ways u just lose out.

Correct that’s what i’ve always heard! But in some cases people have came back depending on the reason you resigned in the first place. Like those who’s in the services. And go on military leave. I’m sure they’ll make a exception for them when they return. 

8 hours ago, 2nice said:

Wondering if anyone has the answer to this. I'm sure majority of people that take city exams take more than 1. What happens if u leave your city job while on probation for another city agency. U don't like the new title or something bad happens. Can u still go back to the previous title being that u left while still on probation?

It’s frown upon but it isn’t impossible. Some people do leave one title during probation and come back without starting from the beginning. But that isn’t for everyone. Remember while on probation your trying to keep your job. (Good way to look at it) your not sure why that person resign or what that person said to management before they resigned. But it is possible to do so. Hey some people luck is better then others. Lmao! 

On 10/16/2018 at 10:09 AM, Headlights 0215 said:

 does anyone know what happens if you get a ticket during training?

Nothing as long as your license isn’t suspended or revoke because of say ticket. Your already in! Just get into the habit of informing the Agency before they find out. That way it doesn’t look like your hiding anything. BECAUSE they will find out best believe they’ll find out! Best of luck to you! 

Sidenote: Protect your license i’m going to tell you like they told me “the only reason you’re here right now is because of your license without that MTA will send you packing” So my advice to you protect it! 

6 hours ago, MarkGuy said:

Thank you. I was actually well on my way to qualifying on Day 10. Then I came to a right turn onto a highway road from a main road, with a service road to my right in the BX. I thought to hook it, but traffic was heavy, and I noticed my instructor reaching for the trolley. So I made a worse decision and pulled the bus forward (though it was hugging the curb), and worked on clearing the pivot, Unfortunately, the front of the bus was too close to the pole, and that was it.

 

I'm messed up about failing. Especially since I finally conquered my nerves for the most part and drove most of the course with little to no issues. I gave this over 100 percent from the beginning, and the end of the route was so close. If I'd done that turn, I would've qualified, no doubt. But I failed to execute when it was needed. I appreciate your advice--and that of others here--regardless, and good luck on your bus op career in transit! 

 

Meanwhile, I'll just wait for the recent T/O exam to give me a call. 

Damn that sucks a lot my ninja. Sorry it didn’t work out for you the way you wanted. I’m glad you didn’t put everything on this one opportunity. You spread them around. T/O, T/W they even got S/A (station agent) coming out as well. So there’s other chances. 

None the less just maybe your MTA career isn’t meant to start behind the wheel of a bus but in the front cabin of a train. So the best of luck to you my ninja! Keep hope a live you’ll be straight best believe that! 

5 hours ago, davidl said:

Hi ,

I don't have CDL license now , can I apply the exam now and get it before the exam ?

thanks 

Yes you can! But you don’t need a CDL license all you need is the CDL permit along with Passenger and Air Brake  endorsements. Just make sure that you had your Regular license for a period of 3 or more years.

15 hours ago, raeva0711 said:

Hello,I have a question regarding points on your license. I received a violation in January 2017, but I didn't pay the ticket until February 2018 are the points still on my license because it's over 18 months from the date of the initial violation.

 Unfortunately Yes they are but that’s fine as long as it isn’t over 4 points your fine and good to go. Don’t believe the 18 month thing or anything like that. Them points on your license come off when the  conviction comes off. So if that conviction is still visable on your license so is them points. As of now i’m doing my 7+ day training as a B/O and I got 3 points on my license from when i was  convicted on 03/2016 more then 24 month ago and them points are very much there. And remember to be honest and truthful with them down at livingston and up at zerega.

Sidenote: when in doubt just go print out your drivers abstract. From the DMV website it’s only 7 dollars. 

6 hours ago, BrookylnBorn said:

^ Whats the email?

examsunit@nyct.com

best of luck to you my ninja! 

1 hour ago, BrookylnBorn said:

Thinking about going down to Livingston, since the list is public my # is higher than a friend of mine who is in the class already

if you ask me I say email the MTA exam unit for answers instead of wasting your time going down there.l

2 hours ago, Moody said:

Did you see and meet the security guard lady ? Very nice lady. And the guy that checks you in that says if you don't have a number you'll be here till Tuesday? 

Yeah she’s pure comedy full of life. Lmao. Yea he said those words literally moments ago.