LGA Link N Train

3 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

Oh and @P3F there's renderings posted at the Astoria line stations. I have to just find the pic that I saw...

They were in the MTA 2016 conference 

11 hours ago, subwaykid256 said:

Then it will stop on Broadway-Lafayette St then it will enter 2 Av on the center track where the new line will start

New 

Avenue C/ Houston St

Brooklyn

Bedford Av/Grand St

Marcy Av/South 4 St

Union Av/ South 4 St Transfer for  at Broadway   at Hewes St

Montrose Av/ Bushwick Av Transfer for 

Flushing Av/Bushwick Av

Myrtle Av/ Stuyvesant Av Transfer for 

Lafayette Av/ Stuyvesant Av

Gates Av/ Stuyvesant Av

Halsey St/ Stuyvesant Av

Fulton St/Stuyvesant-Utica Avs Transfer for 

Bergen St/Utica Av

Eastern Pkwy/Utica Av Transfer for 

Rutland Rd/Utica Av

Linden Blvd/Utica Av

Avenue D/ Utica Av

Kings Hwy/Utica Av

Flatlands Av/Utica Av

Avenue N/ Utica Av

Kings Plaza-Avenue U/Flatbush Av

tell me your thoughts

Weren't the and supposed to do that

12 hours ago, Eric B said:

Since the (F)s are running Bway-West End this weekend, then the ones running to 96th are like a combination of the original 🅣  and the future phase 3 and 4 . (I always wished they kept is as West End).

We'll if you put the at West End, then that gives you a chance to possibly bring back the

17 minutes ago, D to 96 St said:

Even if you didn't run the  express, you could still fit the  into Forest Hills. But why add merging delays for no good reason? And like it was said before, the express tracks are full. Unless you want to reduce  service, which would be a nightmare. Ok

 Ok, I get it

The bypass will be a waste. There is better demand for it to connect to east of 71 Av than go to the Rockaways. The  is already direct to Midtown, and the would be the direct express from the Rockaways. Plus, most of the ridership will be north of Aqueduct Racetrack, already close to QB. 

While you would say that a Rockaway-Queens Bypass "would" be a waste, I'd still leave an emergency connection just in case.

Why have it terminate at either? The  already would almost mimic the route from Rockaway Park to Bway-Lafayette. And do you really think WTC can spare more trains since the  is at 15 TPH? 

OK, we got to figure out something to resolve that issue

I do agree on having Woodhaven converted, but the LIE line should be the  via a new Myrtle Av bypass out to Little Neck Pkwy. The  would take its place on the Brighton Line and the  will take over West End. Branching it off of QB will leave 67 Av as a -only stop. 

Erm, what happens to the  in this plan?? Can the LIE be a combo in some sort of way

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20 hours ago, CenSin said:

A realistic and difficult scenario:

During AM rush, a Brooklyn-bound   train breaks down over the junction south of 145 Street. trains from 148 Street and the yard are blocked. The train is followed by several other trains behind it in the tunnel stretching to 149 Street–Grand Concourse. Manhattan-bound trains cannot enter 149 Street–Grand Concourse due to the blockage.

Due to a fallen customer customer at 137 Street–City College, Bronx-bound trains must run express from 96 Street to 157 Street on the express track as paramedics arrive on the scene.

Signal malfunctions at 7 Avenue () are cause severe delays in Brooklyn-bound service.

1. Reroute the trains already in service.
2. Order proper service changes.
3. Offer alternatives to affected passengers.

 via the  To Burnside Avenue

 terminates at 110 St

 is suspended 145 Street down

 Takes over on New Lots

 or runs 96 St-Brighton Beach

 runs via 8 Av going Downtown

will cover some express service

14 hours ago, D to 96 St said:

The  cannot halve service just so it can run express. It would create merging delays at Roosevelt if the  ran half express. This also reduces service on QB local- unless you extend the  to 71 Av. No one will accept only the  at QB stations due to its delays. The bypass is a waste if it goes to the Rockaways. Extending the local  will suffice. Riders really wanting express service can transfer to the  at Broad Channel, Howard Beach-JFK, and the two Aqueducts. Or they can switch across the platform for the  at Roosevelt or Woodhaven Blvd if its converted. 

First off, if the  DID run half express then the would obviously have to take over the local service. Yes, there would be merging delays. 

Technically, the Bypass wouldn't necessarily be a waste if it went to Rockaways because there would be Direct Express service that goes straight into midtown. 

As for a QB Local on the RBB, it could just terminate at either WTC or Houston St-2 Av 

And it would ultimately be a wise Decisionto convert Woodhaven Boulevard into an express station of which the would merge onto the local tracks to RBB and an open door for a LIE subway line

If the RBB is reactivated then the idea for a half Express on the (M) could work. But If you wanted to have an efficient express service headed to JFK and the Rockaways then that's where the Queens Bypass would come in with provisions to Forest Hills and Jamaica which I think would be the

On 9/16/2017 at 10:57 AM, D to 96 St said:

The Williamsburg Bridge is closed for another set of repairs. This affects the .

terminates at Marcy Av

terminate at Myrtle Broadway

suspended 

Return the for a period of time having it run on Culver to fill in the gap in train service. 

shuttle from Essex to Broad Sts

On 9/30/2017 at 1:32 PM, JayJay85 said:

The Alstom and Siemens merger could affect the R211 order and open the door for R211 cars to have Siemens SITRAC IGBT AC traction motors. 

That would be cool to see/hear

On 9/27/2017 at 9:08 PM, JayJay85 said:

Most the R179 cars should have been mostly 5 car units, they really mess up the order.

 

On 9/18/2017 at 6:56 PM, D to 96 St said:

Around The Horn is right. You have to underpin not only LIRR, but also the 8 Av      , 7 Av      , Broadway        , 6 Av        , and even the Lex      , with the 2 Av  as well.

true

And no Amtrak or NJT would not want services in Queens since the LIRR and the subway do that job already

But doing so would not only alleviate congestion in Penn Station, it would also create a "Regional Unified Network" (RethinkNYC reference)

and would be redundant.

Not if trains are well scheduled and 

RUN ^

 

 

Anyone remembers Cuomo's AirTrain proposal?? If so then the only way to have it properly built is by 

A) Having it Stop at one of the LIRR platforms  (probably an abandoned one)

B) it must have an underground embankment to connect the station and GCP 

C) it must be built to accommodate the weight of subway trains, this way so that the and can run to LGA and Willets Point 

D) Building the LGA AirTrain with NYC subway specs would mean that the NIMBY'S of the LGA Link extension of the won't even get to shoot it down thanks to the AirTrain 

Anyone see where I'm going with this???

On 9/15/2017 at 4:58 PM, D to 96 St said:

Well as I mentioned before it should be a light-rail because IDK which subway line would go there.

Light rail stops are at:

Long Island City

Maspeth-Grand Av

Ridgewood-Fresh Pond

Glendale-Atlas Park Shops

Forest Park-Union Tpke

Richmond Hill-Myrtle Av

Jamaica Station (Terminus)

Potential Extension:

Hollis-193 St

Queens Village-218 St

Belmont Park

IMO this is the only use I can think of for the Lower Montauk.

same, unless a transit hub at Sunnyside yards was built

22 hours ago, D to 96 St said:

A mod should rename this thread to "Rockaway Beach Branch Discussion." 

True, but I wanted to keep it simple 

On 9/12/2017 at 1:00 PM, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

The alone isn't a problem, since it has around 8 minute headway, so that's about 7 trains per hour that are being turned. Now, several trains were turning at Church Avenue as well, so those extra have to turn. For now it should still be decent.

 

My guess is that the place too much burden, if several trains, along with 's, are turning around at Church Avenue.

 

Additionally, it would have likely delay service even more. The 's to Church ran express, to not hold up local-through trains. If the ran to Church, it would have to run local, and then there would be greater delays on service.

If you wanted to run trains as a Culver local service, then it would have to terminate at Church Av to Allow trains to run express on Culver 

Just now, D to 96 St said:

Hell yeah! Bring the  across 10 Av/86 St/Northern Blvd! Make the Triboro RX! But most especially, build the Rockaway Line, an extension of the (M)!

THANK YOU, AT LEAST SOME PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE NEEDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS FOR OUR CITY

On 9/26/2017 at 12:13 PM, T to Dyre Avenue said:

Right. It would take a lot of time from start to finish to convert Woodhaven Blvd to an express stop. But I think it would be worth doing, given the high bus traffic that station gets due to the mall and the many outes that connect there. It would also take a lot of pressure off the overcrowded narrow platforms  at Roosevelt Ave/74th St, where many of the riders who come off those same buses at Woodhaven are transferring from  or  local trains to  or  express trains at Roosevelt. Even without the Rockaway Branch, this would be well worth doing. But with the Rockaway Branch, converting Woodhaven to an express stop should be an integral part of the project. 

I totally agree with this though I would recommend to 

A) Renovate the Station in phases 

B) Build a bus hub Right outside QB or build an overpass for buses or something 

C) The project must be done in a minimum of a year orf 2

On 9/26/2017 at 10:25 AM, Lance said:

Things that seem cheap rarely are, especially when it comes to things underground. Even with the existing bellmouths, this will be an involved process. There are utilities that likely need to be rerouted, tunnel supports that need to be installed or moved as required, ADA access and other important tasks to be done. While none of these are insurmountable hurdles, this is not the kind of project that can be completed in a couple of weeks or something.

It's better to make cost effective proposals than to f**k up an entire borough with a stupid park which is a waste of millions of dollars

4 hours ago, BrooklynBus said:

I agree with you. In this case bipartisanship isn't good. 

I am getting the impression that Ulrich is not against QueensRail, but just doesn't think it will happen. Politicians tend to support what they believe is doable or will be done so they can take credit even if they have little to do with the project. Goldfeder would not publicly oppose SBS because he felt it was going through anyway and taking a position against it puts him on the losing side. Same thing with Ulrich. Didn't make a big deal about changing his allegiance for SBS since it was going through anyway. Doesn't want to be associated with not being on the winning side.

so does that mean that he's supporting Queensway cause that wont be good, the Queensrail HAS TO STAY STRONG here or else it would make the MTA look worse than they are now and Queens would have some everlasting Damage

On 9/21/2017 at 6:41 PM, D to 96 St said:

They would have to build a track connection to Roosevelt since the tunnels connecting to QB aren't tracked. But I agree on converting Woodhaven into an express stop because it would better serve the Queens Mall and takes relief off of Roosevelt. 

Come to think of it, how come the MTA hasn't done that already 

What If an train breaks down between Whitehall and the East River, at the same time, someone hijacks a train at Grand Central, while another service change happens on the Astoria line (let's say an incident). Last but not least an train breaks down at either between Euclid and Grant or Rockaway Blvd and the RBB southern portion. Reroute trains

 

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But 23rd St points towards Greenpoint, Brooklyn. So if you want to run a new crosstown tunnel under 23rd, it either has to go through Greenpoint or it would have to start running diagonally under Manhattan streets in the 20s before crossing the river diagonally in order to get to Long Island City and the western end of the Lower Montauk Branch.

So.... put the LRT under ......

38 Street?????

 

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so is the losing all their NTT's?!

Kinda

 

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It can't enter Manhattan. There are too many tunnels under 34 St.

Also the Tunnels are located underneath 33 and 32 Street’s

 

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It can't enter Manhattan. There are too many tunnels under 34 St.

Then route it under 23 St or something or have it share some distribution with the LIRR, NJT, Amtrak or have run into NJ as long as Penn Station is redesigned or some sort of improvement

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