subwaycommuter1983

First clip courtesy of DJ Hammers I guess those r32's/r42's are going to the G. The second clip is on the newest set of r179's being transferred to Pitkin.

Actually, the r179's have been running on the J so far, but apparently they're all OOS.

We are on topic. The C train mess is a reflection of the bad decisions made by the MTA in regards to the r179's. And to top it off, all sets of r179's are OOS. "Bravo" MTA and Bombardier.

Good to know. And yes there has been many instances where some A or D trains run local on CPW due to the long headways.

The headways for the C is more than 12 minutes during the weekends, even though the timetables states its the opposite. The MTA really blew it with the r179's. Like I said in the previous post, they should have ordered more 10 car r179's, enough to increase service on the C and to make the C full length.

The MTA decisions with the r179's have a lot to do with the mess that is going on with the C train. 1. Using Bombardier to build the r179's. 2. Not building enough 10 car r179's to make the C trains all full length trains and to increase service on the C. As a result, we are seeing extremely long waits and overcrowding along CPW, especially during the weekends, when there is NO B service and where a lot of tourists get on and off to visit the museums. Also, ridership is growing in all Brooklyn stations served by the C.

In terms of maintenance and track work, It should be done ONLY during overnight and weekends. The reason I'm saying that is because the MTA is now during maintenance and track work during the evenings between 8pm and 11pm, which is a huge inconvenience for people who are still coming out of work and school and the trains are still crowded during those times. One example, I don't remember the last time Manhattan bound D trains ran express along 4th avenue in Brooklyn after 8pm. It seems that the MTA wants to cater to the 9 to 5 commuters by neglecting the off peak commuters who pay the same fare as everyone else.

Stations along CPW are becoming more overcrowded due to the high number of tourists visiting the museums during the weekends. The MTA needs to somehow increase service on those stations. How???

Frequency is a huge issue with the C during the weekends along CPW. There's been instances where selected A or D trains have run local along CPW to compensate service gaps on the C. Weekend local A and D trains on CPW is not the solution. Either the MTA adds more trains on the C or have the B run during the weekends to 145.

We're not going completely off topic. Service needs to be improved, especially in CPW and in Concourse/Jerome. How?? The MTA needs to figure this out. All we know is that the r179's, the r211's and the car replacements for the r68's will play a key role in these improvements. Also, at this point the MTA should already be working on car orders to replace the r62's and r68's considering how long it's been taking for new subway cars to be tested and delivered and the r179's are a huge example of that.

I know many people in ozone park may not be happy about losing express service. However, they will have a less confusing commute if the C is extended to Ozone park, which is only a few stops after Euclid. Remember, the C used to run past Euclid years ago. A train riders will also have a less confusing commute if all A trains go to the Rockaways and if all 5 car r179's go to the A train in addition to the r211's. I think this will work, especially, after the Canarsie tunnel work is complete and once the r211's are delivered. I also, think that running the B to the Bronx during the weekdays and running the B to 145 during the WEEKENDS will work as well. I already explained my reasons in this previous post:

Didn't know that this was discussed in previous posts. The C in the past has run past Euclid. Also, it is confusing to take the A past Euclid avenue, especially if the conductors don't make the announcement and many times the yellow screens on the r46 don't show where it's going. That's another reason why the 5 car r179's should run on the A.

And these long headways causes overcrowding on the 1 train. Also, there's overcrowding on 81st street due to those long headways. I agree. Also, more service in the Bronx, reduce overcrowding on the 4 train. Running the B to the Bronx all day during the weekdays would reduce bottleneck on 145th street and eliminate confusion on B train riders that are unsure whether the train is going to the Bronx or not.

Good to know that others agree with this. What about the other idea of running the B to the Bronx during the weekdays and running the B to 145th Street during the weekends, without making changes on the D train?

Has the MTA considered running all the A trains to both sides of the Rockaways, eliminating the shuttle, and extending the C to Ozone Park? How about running the B to the Bronx during the weekdays and running the B to 145 during the weekends, but leaving the D as it is? With those extra r179's and the r211's, this is something that we need to think about. It will increase reliability and decrease confusion on both A and B trains.

That's just a possible scenario. The testing and delivery of the r211s are a few years away.

It's soon to tell, but I have a feeling that the 5 car r179's will all go to the C once the r211s are delivered. Those 5 car r179's cover most of the C fleet.

Also keep in mind that the A will only give up about half of the 46s to the C, meaning that the A will still keep a lot of its r46s in addition to the 5 car 179s.

Enough to cover at least half of the A fleet. The rest will most likely be r46s and some r32s.

In other words, the A will get all 5 car r179's. Possible car distribution A: 5 car r179's, r32's, r46's C: r46's G: r32's, 4 car r179's and/or 4 car r160's J/Z: r143's, 4 car r179's and/or 4 car r160's

G train Saw it in a notification. It's definitely going to the A train if not the C.

It makes sense. Why would a 4 car set burn test on a line that has 10 car trains?? It seems that more testing needs to be done on sets 3010-3019 and 3050-3057 before entering service.

I wouldn't be surprised. The 5 car sets of r179's will most likely go to the A and/or C. As for the r160s on the C, I have a feeling that they will go to the G, while the J and Z keeps most if not all of 8 cars sets of r179's. Remember that there will be a surplus of trains within the next few months.

It's happening again. For those who are wondering about set 3010-3019, I suggest that you hop on the B, or Q trains to Brooklyn during the afternoons before the pm rush hour. Based on the MTA website, you might bump into set 3010-3019.

3010-3019- Testing at Brighton???