I mean.... I just do stuff the old way if the bus hasn't tracked for awhile I would assume the bus is retired due to when it last tracked . Yes Ik it's not right to state that buses aren't retired unless the farebox is out the bus but usually people tend to do so on the forums. I've been stated months ago I'm not right about everything when it comes to bus retirements I'm more good when it comes to transfers I'm trying, most of the stuff I said I got right and wrong and I was happy to get corrected on it. I usually get my info from a bus op, or like I said the old fashion way. I was wrong on the 4596 thing and I want to disregard that I forgot that buses be out for awhile due to maintenance and or if the bus tracker is messed up like for example 3623 the bus was supposedly retired but it wasn't the bus had a glitched tracker.