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In the case of GCT, as soon as a train shunts the starter signal it has "departed". Being most of the starter signals are usually at the the end of the platform the train does not have to go far.

In most cases trains will still leave their initial terminal on time. When service is suspended then it's a different story.

St Patty's Day is the single most worst day on Metro North, PERIOD! The worst of the sporting events are Yankee games. The trains closest to the start of the game and the ending of the game are the worst as far as crowds. In most cases the conductors can not sweep to get tickets hence the reason for the gate collection at the station. The rowdy ones can usually be convinced to calm down when threatened by a visit from the police.

Ugh. That is the single most worst train on the Hudson Line expecially on Friday and Saturday nights. From the few times I've worked it I have nothing good to say about it.

Must have been early still being they were only drunk. It's when they start puking that you have to worry about it.

You can't compare what happens on Amtrak with Metro North or LIRR. All three are completely independent of one another.

Stop thinking. As I've said I'm enjoying life on the Harlem Line these days.

Just think about how much $4.00 in change will feel in you pocket. Now multiply that by 2 or 3 times a day (if not more).

Alcohol is allowed on Metro North trains with few exceptions. One being St Patty's Day. In fact alcohol is served on some New Haven Line trains and adjacent to platforms at GCT as passengers are boarding the trains.

Was it an actual train or maintenance equiptment? There has been a train rolling around the Hudson Line testing the tracks and there is a yellow locomotive on the north end. This train is only working between 8pm and 8am.

Probably, but we aren't the only customer. Being Yonkers has their hands full with NYCT and PATH it probably wasn't possible to start production of the M8's there. As I'm sure the contract cost was with delivery it's certainly not Metro North's problem as the the cost of delivery. I don't think the cars are formally "delivered" until they arrive in New Haven and gone over by Kawasaki's tech's. At that point they are tested on our rails with their tech's and one of our test train crews. Kawasaki even pays the cost of our crew as the cars have yet to be formally delivered.

The first 38 cars were made in Kobe, Japan and the remaining have been and will be made at the Kawasaki Motors Manufacturing Corp., USA plant in Lincoln, Nebraska. My question is why should the M8's be made in New York State when NYS and CT both own them for use in CT?

This is the same exact announcement that was posted about 4 pages ago in this thread.

I would be suprised if any manufacturing or assembly happens in Yonkers. Case in point are the M8's. They were delivered here completed by rail. Why put the bodies on flat cars to deliver them to Yonkers just to put the trucks on (and other final assembly items)?

Third rail shoes, cab signal systems, etc......

I don't know what you're trying to say any more because you keep going back and forth that you want more service for the affluent communities but then back peddle when challenged. I'm done with this discussion and we should probably get back to the topic at hand... M9's I think you mean the Hudson Line as that is where Poughkeepise lies. Having the capability to run electrics past Harmon would be advantages as there are times locomotives are in short supply. If there is much more of a demand in service to Poughkeepise then it would be needed. Also if there is more crying from the upper Hudson's wealthy communities such as Garrison then it might be needed. After all, they don't get a fraction of the service Riverdale gets. Where did you hear that Poughkeepsie is willing to fund electrification? They're crying poverty just like everyone else.

I agree and I do. I work have worked many locals at all hours of the day, the stations producing the most riders on the lower Hudson are Marble Hill, Yonkers, Tarrytown and Ossining hands down! In fact every day I see the same commuters that travel from Irvington to Yonkers that I would challenge to afford one of your $25.00 lunches. So what you are saying is to shut them out. Spuyten Duyvil and Riverdale already has their special trains. It's the peak hour Greystone zippers. The front of the 7:28 pm GCT to Greystone local empties out at SD and the rear empties at Riverdale. It stops at Marble Hill and Yonkers for some intermediate riders and stops at Glenwood and Greystone because it has to go by them anyway before the train turns at CP19 to go back south. Regardless, it's not about the wealthy how come you brought it up originally?

Here we go again with your special trains for the wealthy. I can assure you that if it was to every happen it would stop at Marble Hill on the way to Riverdale and Yonkers after because that is where the demand is. Maybe you would get lucky that they'll implement having different cars for the wealthy. Of course prior to boarding you will have to show your previous year's 1040 and last two months worth of pay stubs.

The who would be the Harlem and Hudson Lines. There is no specific equipment for either line as it's one pool. A train you go into GCT on may go to Brewster or North White Plains next. As far as doors, to the lay person single doors make sence as there is only one mechanism per door instead of two. The problem arises when a there's a problem with a sensor or mechanism with in the door. In order for the train to take power the engineer must have a light indicating all doors are closed. If there is a faulty sensor preventing this from happening the door must be disabled (even though it's visably closed). If for some reason both doors on one side of a car are disabled, that car can not be used. In the older cars with the double panels, if one panel on each door is inoperable, the other panel is still operable and the door will still open.

News from Kawasaki above from the third paragraph: If funding is available ......... and the railroads choose to exercise future options, Kawasaki will manufacture up to 304 additional cars for the LIRR and up to 280 cars for Metro-North. Also from the announcement: "The cars will incorporate the most successful and popular features of the railroads’ two recent electric car classes......single leaf doors for improved reliability". Is this a successful or popular feature? The problem with the single leaf door is if there's an issue with it you lose the whole door! With the older double leaf doors, when you have a door problem and have to dog out the door you still have the other leaf. I personally will be surprised if they get manufactured in Yonkers. Just because there is a plant there doesn't mean that is where it will happen... but then again, the politicians know everything!

Metro North is included as an option. Not part of the original order.

$80 payable to me????

There are legitimate reasons why some don't have a ticket prior to boarding and that's the reason the surcharge is in place for on board fares. If there were to be summonses issued, who is going to write them and follow up in court? As it is getting the police can be an issue.

No, "Until further notice". I'm speculating that this will be in place until the work on that section of track is complete.

Does that go into Grand Central North? If so, on the public timetables it lists Grand Central North's hours as Monday thru Friday from 6:30 am to 9:30 pm. This covers 230 Park Ave (east and west walks - 45th st), 47th and Madison and 48th and Park.