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2 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

It was but he is talking about the original “N72” route before it cut to stay within Nassau some years back.

Yeah. I figured he was talking about the LIB version. Nice ain't sending routes to Suffolk this time 

7 hours ago, MTABusTransitFanner said:

At this point from how I see it, the n72 is pretty much permanently discontinued, I likely doubt that bus service from Hempstead to Babylon would be restored.

Wasn't it cut back to Farmingdale?

9 hours ago, Ex696 said:

Were the 4 DTBK-Ridgewood routes' (B26, B38, B52, B54) changes also introduced in the Queens redesign?

No they were not. Only the 53, 57 and 62 

So the n72 was "temporarily" discontinued? 

9 hours ago, Brillant93 said:

What does this have to do with this thread?

Perhaps I should have put this in the off topic lounge. The way he sets up his trivia, I was going to do a bus version of it

Isn't the supposed to replace the 10 in that part of South Ozone Park?

On 3/17/2024 at 9:17 PM, B35 via Church said:

How are you coming to that conclusion?

Considering the B57 and 62 changes were introduced with the Queens redesign. It's similar to the M100 and 125 changes with the Bronx redesign 

It's supposed to go into effect with the Queens routes. Even though some feel it shouldn't be a thing.

20 years ago, all 4 tracks on the Manhattan Bridge became available. And the demise of the diamond Q. 

On 2/10/2024 at 10:29 AM, B35 via Church said:

Why single out the Q98 in this instance? The proposed Q58 would also serve Fresh Pond subway....

I wasn't singling out the 98 per se. I felt it was overkill with the 38, 58 and 98 ending in Flushing. 

On 2/8/2024 at 6:39 PM, SubBus said:

B81: What if this route go across Beverly Rd instead of turning down Flatbush towards the junction?  Possibly use the old  terminal at the Brooklyn Terminal Market...  

I would revert the old B23 and possibly use Clarendon but that may be too close the 8

While I do want the 38 to Fresh Pond (M), I don't think it would be feasible. There's the proposed 98. 

5 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

And yeah, before Mermaid loop became a thing, it used to end over there by Brightwater Towers, where Brighton Beach av ends (well, at that point, it's considered West Brighton av IINM).

It is. After you cross Ocean Parkway 

Similar to northern Brooklyn with the 48/69 swap. Also didn't the 68 stop dead by the aquarium at one time?

There's the B4 that would be rerouted to serve Coney Island albeit one block north of the station and B44 select to Coney Island Hospital. 

9 minutes ago, Ex696 said:

From what I'm seeing, a lot of people dislike that change. Especially considering that a lot of people who use the route to get to KCC will now have to transfer to the B1 or B68 and likewise with B68 riders who want to go to Coney Island. I feel like this swap will be significantly more detrimental to the B49 than it will to the B68. That and the B48/B69 swaps are bad, and it's ironic because the 8 and 9 are swapped in either situation.

And possibly, all 4 switching depots. Hopefully in the final draft for Brooklyn, they'll revert back. But I do see the 49 losing it's limited service since it will be a local.

Maybe it'll be more useful, since it's slated to go to Coney Island 

4 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

If you're referring to service inside the Navy Yard, nothing at this point (MTA related I mean) should be running inside there.... Current B67 carries air through there & on top of it, barely gets riders in Williamsburg because they stubbed it in the southern portion of Williamsburg - which is clearly not where the demand is at....

Perhaps, I should have said B27 Williamsburg Bridge Plaza with no service through Navy Yard to Red Hook. Since you said the NY shuttles get good usage 

4 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

The B53 shouldn't be a thing, in any plan... LOL.

In any event though, while I do see a certain market/demand for Astoria - Williamsburg travel, and for whatever backlash the proposed B57 has precipitated, I still see it garnering more interborough usage than the proposed B62 (or, than for if the proposed B27 were to be extended to Astoria).... Even interborough usage on the current B62 has (and is continuing to) wane.... Interborough usage on the old B61 (that Red Hook - Queens Plaza rendition) from Downtown on up, dwarfed that of the current B62.... One could argue that the gentrification of north Williamsburg has to do with it, but I wouldn't say that alone tells the full story....

Although I'm not all that gung-ho about retaining coverage on Smith/Court, I think it's a bit of overkill to create a whole 'nother route to have that coverage be retained, because they're pushing the envelope with the proposed B57 (to Jackson Heights) & with the proposed B62 (to Astoria).... Most of the usage of a route like that proposed B27 would likely be between the Farragut houses & Downtown Brooklyn.... I don't see the Red Hook - Downtown Brooklyn patronage of that proposed B27 being any closer to a balancement to the current/proposed B61 (in other words, those masses will continue to dogpile on B61's)....

With all that said, to sum it up:

1. The proposed B57 is a better usage of mileage, for the purpose of spurring interborough usage (compared to the proposed B62)
2. The proposed B62 doesn't remotely need to be one continuous route (nor should it be the "main" route along 21st, but that's another discussion).... So, being that they're proposing the B27 to retain coverage along Smith/Court, I would redistribute mileage by truncating the proposed B62 & extending the proposed B27, to have them both end at WBP

So the:

B27 Wiliiamsburg-Red Hook (no Navy Yard service)

B32 Williamsburg-Astoria possibly a rush or a LTD on 21 St. Maybe local

B62 Downtown Brooklyn-Williamsburg

Now what to do about that Greenpoint Av leg of the proposed B53 since it wouldn't be a thing and the  feeling there has to be a through Broadway route 

21 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

Under which plan?

If the B32 was extended north to Astoria rather than the 62. I do like the 27 to Williamsburg though

I wonder would the B53 still exist under this plan

Kind of scares me what will the B55 say if it goes through

There's a reason why the is being split. Same with the 

Now that 63 and 80 combo from the previous draft isn't such a bad idea after all. I guess I was afraid of 80 St losing access to Queens Center. 

3 hours ago, EastFlatbushLarry said:

can't find anyone to explain why the B35 short sign is displayed in this fashion these days. i absolutely hate it, and i don't understand (letalone care) why it was changed.

this is why they're ass backwards.. after an eternity of the B6 sign displaying Bensonhurst ÷ Harway Av, they change it to 25 Av - Cropsey, meanwhile, McDonald Avenue or Av? too confusing/too much going on.. let's shorten it 🤦🏾‍♂️

That McDonald signage brings me back to the PBL days. Like when the Q8 just said Euclid like it's a neighborhood. I'm not too fond of these corner destinations. It should be neighborhood, street then via whatever. The Q41 is a bit excessive now. LIB I had an issue with too.