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College Point is a CNG garage. LaGuardia and College Point have some kind agreement when one has a shortage lol. I don't think those tanks expired yet

4 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

That is exactly my problem with how they're opting to break up the current Q16.... The Q16 at its busiest is west of Francis Lewis, not east of it.... Fat chance the proposed Q61 & Q62 would spur significant enough growth from along Utopia & from along Willets Pt. blvd......

I guess the Q1 and 16 are like second cousins lol. Both aren't in the top 10 in ridership in the borough but have multiple branches 

The B53 to me is like a domino effect. It is scheduled to replace the existing B24, 32 and Q24. Overnights, it will operate between Broadway Junction and Wiliamsburg. I still see people piling on the  and  though

So there's the Q16 proposed to end at the current Q31 terminal. Stub, perhaps? Then there's the Q61 and 62 routes. 61 rush hour only, 62 7 days a week. They're acting like the Q16 is that busy. As far as the Q30 and 31 goes, I think I saw more 30's than 31's during their QV days. Still wondering if they were ever interlined with the Q43 prior to 2005. To me, they're nothing more than blue and white school buses lol

1 minute ago, EastFlatbushLarry said:

I'm assuming it's for the same reason why the Q48, Q72 & M60 don't directly serve it.. no overall benefit

The 72 doesn't. But the Q48 and M60 do service Terminal A Marine Air

5 hours ago, N6 Limited said:

It seems like a “stub” but provides a connection to the extended Q43 which is proposed to go to North Shore hospital, and the Q45 Little Neck Parkway route.

You mean LIJ. Plans for a Jamaica North Shore route were in the original redesign 

All this talk about neighborhoods makes me want to reopen my thread from a few years back lol

14 minutes ago, Fire Mountain said:

Wait, hold up, it was? I was at the end of the 4th grade at the time the big MTA budget cut went down, and I remember mad routes got cut, shortened, or just got decreased frequency all over the city. But I didn’t know the Q84 was also proposed to get the axe as well. I lowkey wonder what kept that from happening since it’s one of the least busiest Merrick routes 🤔 

I would say the distance between Linden and Merrick is too large of a gap not to have bus service

10 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

One, it's already pointed out it's not gonna flop as bad as you say it is, two the point of 30% of the redesign is to have more direct routes. By your logic, let's go ahead and discontinue the Q84 because it's almost the same thing as the Q4 and is a couple blocks away. Or even better, since the Q51 is coming let's just add local stops to it so it can cover the Q4 and whoever needs Jamaica just use one of the other Merrick Blvd routes.

The bold part was actually proposed in 2009.

2 hours ago, Fire Mountain said:

So they finna go through with the 82, but not an actual that could benefit or actually work 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

Watch it have super low ridership and get cancelled by 2026

It's not set in stone, but it seems likely. My only gripe with the Q57 is that it ends at Little Neck and Hillside which is a stub. It may have been better off ending at the current Q36 terminal 

Didn't the B8 have a part time branch to the Brooklyn Terminal Market until 95? IIRC, the Brooklyn bus map labeled the area as East Flatbush. Remsen Village and Paerdegat Basin are subsections of Canarsie I suppose?

The Q82 is going to go through anyway since they wanna get rid of the 36 and 110 for a "semi" through Jamaica Av route 

1 hour ago, Fire Mountain said:

I was honestly thinking of better and quicker connectivity between NE and SE Queens buswise. I thought it would be useful 🤷🏾‍♂️

 

I see your point in terms of connection to the 7, I just thought western northern could use a faster route since sometimes the 66 be slow and not due to traffic. As far as between RI and QP, yea it’s stupid how they don’t have a connection between the two destinations cause Queens Plaza is like the closest big transportation hub for RI residents. That’s a big part of why I was thinking of this route. 

Currently there is a connection between Roosevelt Island and Queens Plaza in the 102. It's unfortunate it'll be split in 2. The 104 extended west and a new 105 on 31 St. Most it not all of the buses on 21 will serve Court Square instead of Queens Plaza. 

7 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

Yeah, it's a stub... AFAIC, they're using that B10 & the B16 to take away patronage from the B12... There's no way you can have 4 routes ending at Prospect Park , so they got the B48 running down to Church av (which I personally think is asinine from a logistical perspective)....

According to the  Church Av  will be an accessible station in the future, but yeah that's not a good place to end a bus

So, I'm hoping that idiotic Q1/6 combo is off the table in the final proposal. Which means, the Q1 will do Jamaica-Bellerose with no branch to Queens Village LIRR. The Q6 will more than likely go to JFK Cargo replacing the Q7 which is supposed to be the through Rockaway Blvd route. Still think Cedarhurst-Inwood is a stub though. Ditto with the Q10/64 combo. I was hoping the Q9 could stay south of Rockaway, but it seems the Q10 130 St branch will stay. I guess the reasoning with the Q55 to Jamaica is to negate taking the Q56 to the  or taking the  to Myrtle for the  or Broadway Junction for the . I suppose with this Queens redesign, they want to connect the dots and eliminate backtracking to Jamaica or Flushing. If the  can define those terms

17 minutes ago, N6 Limited said:

When they were running the weekend  bus shuttles recently, it ran on 139th St between Jamaica and Archer Aves. I noticed there were bus stop pads along the street. Which route used to run on 139th st?

That was the Q60 until 2010

In the redesign, the 17's E 80 St branch becomes a proposed B76. It will start at Broadway Junction though.

50 minutes ago, N6 Limited said:

 

Merrick and Springfield is an easy place to turn buses and maybe interline routes.

Highly doubt that since the 25 is College Point and the 77 is Jamaica 

2 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

funny you mention that QT65, because I just linked to it in my last post.... That proposal was worse.

Speaking of...Merrick and Springfield seems like a stub too for the 25 and 77

1 hour ago, B35 via Church said:

Can't say I'd disagree.... Poor place to terminate a bus route, esp. on a full time basis.

Worse than that Beechhurst St Albans route it was originally planned for

4 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

Currently for Flushing - Jamaica travel, you have the Main st. corridor, Kissena/Parsons corridors, 164th corridor, and 188th..... I agree with dismantling the current Q17, but I do think either the Kissena/Parsons corridor or the 165th corridor should have a bus route remaining serving LIRR Jamaica (even if it doesn't specifically terminate at it)....

I would do the Q65. Farmers and Liberty seems like a stub. 

4 hours ago, Fire Mountain said:

Yea not gonna lie, the 20 and 25 moves are completely idiotic considering how 1. The 20 was extended to Jamaica in the first place as a local option to the 44 from back in 99, and now they wanna cut it? That’s Just retarded, just like extending the 25 to SPRINGFIELD AND MERRICK, like bruh, just make the 86 a limited and have the 4, 5, 84, and 85 only run rush instead. The 25 is NOT needed down there. Idk how to feel about the 83 becoming a rush route tbh

 

Oh yeah, you know what else is idiotic? Replacing the 25 and 65 (that does EXCELLENT In college point on a daily basis) with the 17 and 27, like wtf is the point of that? They should leave the 27 as it is, and the 17, idk where exactly, but not college point.

Also, the 85 and 86 don't need to run to Green Acres 24/7. Rush and limited are kinda the same thing. The proposal for the Q83 to me is a bit vague. No mentions of its Queens Village LIRR branch during overnights

So the routes that terminate at LIRR stations, don't have the station or the abbreviation on the signs

Which is why the Q20 shouldn't be curtailed at Briarwood...As far as the 25 and 65 being idiotically extended to eastern Queens, ehh...

What hospital? 

I don't mean to go off topic, but I like how the ridership statistics for the ex private lines weren't available until 2011.