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4 hours ago, Wallyhorse said:

That's why nights and weekends during this I'd just have an between 47-50 and 57 that would require ONE four/five-car train plus a backup that probably could be OPTO (though with T/Os on each end to allow trains to quickly leave 47-50 with such coming in on the uptown express track.  This would just usually be the one train operating on the uptown track between the two stations. 

Except you are forgetting one thing... you don't just need 2 TOs for this gig. For every train you use, you need at least one extra person. Even on that short a trip.

during the AM tour, the 42nd street shuttle cycles through 6 train operators. Two are always on each train, so four, and the other two are resting. 

Then you'd need a dispatcher. So, we're already up to four people.

Then you'd need platform staff, at both stations. And since when we do that, we always work in ATLEAST pairs, two RTO personnel walking the platforms, we're now up to 8 people...

Oh, and now we also need a station agent. There's at least 9 people. 

They're already closing Roosvelt Island and Queensbridge overnight for this, and you want to go through all this for the sake of one stop, the 106th busiest station? 

See, one of the issues you need to work on is you only care about benefits... you never consider the costs.

37 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said:

Is this a legitimate start date, or is it speculative?

https://new.mta.info/article/service-changes-f-and-m-lines-starting-august-28

32 minutes ago, Fan Railer said:

As mentioned, on the B division, the single unpowered truck per set is to facilitate the installation of CBTC related equipment. Specifically, an axle tachometer to measure distance travelled. This method is more effective than whatever the previous used was. That is why the axle the tach is installed on has to free wheel; no motor or brake shoe to induce possible wheelslip and throw off the distance measurement.

It's not going to feel different from a 100% motorized train because the motors installed are powerful enough to make up the difference in performance through a few software tweaks. The trains are scaled back from what they can really do anyway. We went from 4,600 hp (10 car SMEE) or 3,680 hp (8 car 75-foot) DC motor trains to ~6,000 hp AC motor NTTs on the B division, and yet the NTTs don't perform all that much better than the SMEE cars these days. I've heard stories of the OG NTTs (142s and 143s) hitting 70 mph on F5 track out on the flats when they were first testing, just to see what they could do, while today, everything I ride out there, SMEE or NTT maxes out around 47-49 mph. 

On the A division, going to 70% motorized trains with higher HP motors dropped hp from 4,600 to 4,200, but the A division NTTs are a bit lighter than their SMEE counterparts (owing to the two-less motors on the B cars), so that probably accounts for the minute performance difference. The benefit is fewer motors to maintain, resulting in cheaper operation. The authority just took advantage of the presence of the trailer truck on one of the B cars to install the CBTC equipment onto when the time came.

meanwhile the distance measurements are completely off kilter on 4060-4069. Her AAS was going haywire yesterday, I had to reset it almost every other stop going uptown, to the point I just said f**k it and did it myself after 145th street. The train had no clue where it was. 

If that's what happens with the AAS count, which is also based on wheel rotations... using a tach for CBTC really needs to be rethought for the long-term future of the technology in general. 

Running it to 57/7th requires full length trains, which requires conductors enough of us to be available on the weekends to make service. 

I don’t know if it was to reduce weight or what, but it really doesn’t feel all that different.

I was once told by some bus drivers I knew that Long Island Bus was going to be folded into MTA bus. Not as in RBO, but merged completely.

obviously that didn’t happen.

but the point is someone said it was and it spread.

I head a few F Train operators last week talking about how they’re going to move some R179s to Jamaica Yard because “they want the A to be all R211”

these guys were saying all sorts of negative things about those trains… which they themselves have never operated.

Like I said the other day… I would not be surprised if I am the ONLY person (if not one of the few people) reading this who has actually been inside the R211Ts… and yet here we have people doing things like repeating hearsay rumors about them and talking like they know everything there is to know about them.

2 hours ago, R32 3838 said:

I never said they can't work here, Let the train run over debris in a river tube with no clearance and see what happens. had years of planning for this and they didn't do it. I'm not against the cars at all but the way has its rules, They should have known this was going to be an issue.

 

So don't come at me like I'm against the cars when I'm just relating the news from people who actually work in NYCT. 

 

This is why they are test units. Once they figure out the issues and concerns, Then they'll figure out if they want to order more or not.

Hi, I actually work around R211s and I've not heard any of this.

Gotta remember the difference between Crew Room Lawyer BS and actual policy from 2 Broadway.

4 hours ago, djtoro7 said:

As far as maintenance, it will also be inconvenient due to the need to taking a half set out of commission for a mechanical failure or SMS down the line. As innovating as they are, I don't see these cars lasting on the rails of NYC. But we'll just have to wait and see.

Um…. WE ALREADY DO THAT! The entire fleet is in semi-permanent sets already, what difference does this make?

7 hours ago, danielhg121 said:

Is it within fare control to do that? As in, can riders transfer from the Queens bound platform to Manhattan bound platform without getting double-charged?

when that happened in 1999 for the rebuild of the Williamsburg Bridge, they decked over the center track and built a platform, partly to allow people to cross between trains as the station does not have interdirectional connections. IN THEORY, we could operate out of Marcy single pocket but that's a lot of trouble, 

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1393

A little tip for all you new folks...

When you look at the bulletin board, either in person or on TENS and see a sudden posting of multiple bulletins on the same/similar/related subject matter...

That's usually a sign someone made a boo boo... a BIG boo boo...

Like on Monday when they let TCG 4 loose in the corridor and backed everyone up. I was three behind on my last trip (Echo job)

You can still share a pic if you credit the person who took it linked back to a source in some fashion.

Alright kiddies, teacher is putting her foot down. Unless you have direct evidence for something or you actually work around these train like I do, stop arguing like you know everything about these machines.

I operate these trains at least two to three times a week. Some of you have never seen them in person. Chilax.

yeah, apparently there is falling concrete from the apartments at Pitkin yard. EVERYONE who goes there now needs to have a transit issued hard hat. 

We’ve had a visitor…

https://youtu.be/7xwwpU-VAzE

Just now, Chris89292 said:

I wonder why the Corona yard isn’t a big yard like 207th street so they can maintain every IRT fleet, maybe the R142A could do a quick trip there for a whole car wash, would be great to see various subway fleets to run on the flushing line 

Why would you assign that job to Corona..?

1: the isolation… you know, not connected to the rest of the IRT and only one set of switches to the Astoria line

2: CBTC limits when those moves could happen

3: squeezed into the north end of Flushing Meadows Park gives them only so much ground to work with. They would have to demolish and eliminate Stengel depot to build anything else.

24 minutes ago, Reptile said:

What is taking them so long to put in the 4080s/4090s? Wasn't the initial estimate about a train per week?

No. It was two trains a month.

4060-4069 is the A pilot set and has been in daily service since the end of May, when it began its successful 30 day test.

4070-4079 has been in service since June.

no dates on the Ts or SS are hard set yet. Something might crop up to delay them. That’s why we deal on what quarter a train will debut until we’re 100% sure.

53 minutes ago, TMC said:

I’d rank a 125th Street Crosstown higher than lines and extensions in Eastern Queens and the the Bronx, but below Utica and Nostrand in terms of where priorities should be.

 

125th Street is too valuable to not build, and it isn’t just about Columbia. It is one of the busiest bus corridors on the continent, and it being a crosstown, could take some of the stress off of transfer points in the Bronx and Midtown.

125th has rail transit. Loads of areas have NOTHING.

the priority after the authorized phases of SAS is expanding the system to areas that are NOT served, not making things easier for areas that already have service.

the IBX, for example. That’s much more important than a 125th street crosstown line, because it will bring train service to areas where it not only doesn’t exist, but some places where it NEVER has.

To me, it feels you you’re saying it’s more important that someone traveling in Manhattan save a 10 minutes or less than a person in other areas of the city save 30-40 minutes…

Columbia has not expanded to the point of justifying building an entire extension cross town, having to re design and redo the environmental impact statement from scratch. They have the 1.

they have B and C if they don’t mind cutting through Morningside Park.
 

They have the M60SBS.

there are MASSIVE transit deserts in other parts of the city that deserve service way more than Columbia does.

the University is NOT the traffic generator YOU think it is.

The N stops at 49th because it’s a busy station…

at least from what I’ve been told.

Someone in system safety went to Pitkin Yard and had a canary about something because they were handing everyone hard hats this morning.

Okay… um… we have a thread exactly for this kind of thing, so… yeah…

205th street Station will be closed for the month of august.

D service will operate between BPB and Stillwell. No concourse express (…again…)

B service will operate from 145th street at all times the B operates.

Since when does software decide if some knucklehead is getting on the train or not? You want to decress dwell times? Have people respect "Stand Clear of the Closing Doors, Please."