Kamen Rider

3 hours ago, 40 to 241st said:

sorry i didn't know 

Here's what WE want... for people to stop holding us responsible for things we had nothing to do with. Transit didn't touch him. no MTA employees were involved in that entire situation... yet now we've got people who seem to have a death wish running around on our tracks. 

14 minutes ago, Chris89292 said:

This isn’t a protest, I see this as trespassing and causing subway service disruption, these people better get arrested, we take our privilege of protesting for granted, we don’t know how to use it properly without causing trouble, it’s insane how people want attention

Was it a protest? yes.

Was it beyond stupid? definitely. 

I was working a Delta job and got caught up in that fiasco. Trains dropping out all over the place, at least one Apple was told they were going to Bedford Park.

Ate away at my lunch break, and i got that job off the board.

basically, we don't need the R211Ss in the NYCT roster because they don't need to be tracked. They will have a specific spot in the yard where they will be parked, and they will move at specific times to and from specific places as outlined in the General Orders under which they will be tested. 

Every time an SIR car needed work that required it to be brought to Coney Island in the last few years, the car was offloaded at on the SBK and brought to the yard via diesel down the west end line. It did not need to be put on Transit's roster during it's stay. 

1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

Because they are operating on NYCT trackage and need to be assigned an identity number….

And exactly where is it written they have to be on the TA roster to run on TA tracks? or are you just assuming?

Because there have been times when transit has had duplicate numbers on active cars. 

Say, for example the ex BMT Gate/Q cars and the Arnines. When they were Q cars, the surviving gate car set was numbered 1622. Same number as an R7A. And guess what, when those Q cars were on their last legs... on the Myrtle Avenue El... guess who they were sharing tracks with... on the section still in service today? 

as for the 211S, all movements of these cars will be done under General Orders and under a GO, you can basically do whatever you want within reason.

2 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Since there are going to be duplicate car numbers with the R211S’s and the Arnine musuem cars, how is this going to work in the car roster?

...simple, they're not on the same roster. why would the in general subway fleet be on the same roster as SIRTOA's fleet?

One thing that needs to also be remembered is that the SIR crews will need full retraining.

This isn't like what happened with me, where I just had a one day class that basically taught me what made the 211's different from the other NTTs I already had experience with. They have no experience with anything made in the last 50 years. 

This is going to be all brand new to them. A generational change.

2 hours ago, Ale188 said:

Can I bring up you quote again? 

'You guys love to complain about the incompetence of transit and its executive employees. Back in the day you guys would REALLY have had something to complain about.'

Uh, you're in it, too. You know. You're just trying to blame everyone BUT yourself. AND: (alr, i know this is not the thread for this, but still)

'..well you guys would have something to REALLY b!tch and moan about.'

We're not the type of people to be saying 'moan about' alright? We are [most likely] not gay. That kinda proves another point. And also, I don't have to have reliable sources on me. I just know things. So if you were gonna say that, that's your answer.. You're literally just a scapegoat. Alright, back on topic

I’m a lesbian. We LGBTQ+ folks don’t talk like that so what the hell are you talking about.

CBTC on the Corridor runs from Kew Gardens to Queensbridge and 50th street. 
 

R’s enter and exit CBTC as they travel the 11th street cut. 
 

the east end install has only just started.

Operationally, trains are all running in “Automated Train Protection Manual” mode, meaning the TO is still driving, but what they do is regulated by the computer.

this also means on my end, that the computers sense if the train is properly birthed in the station and enables me to open the doors.

Much like how the tracks were worked on, interlining is also not to blame. It’s the zone controllers. The computers that talk to the trains. 
 

the E, M and F don’t enter CBTC territory at QBP, only the R does. 

the E and M pick it up in Manhattan and the F at Queensbridge.

The zone controllers issue the trains their movement authority. Without it, in CBTC mode, the train won’t move. 

5 minutes ago, Chris89292 said:

The announcements won’t sound the same anymore after this, feels off

… speaking as a trans woman myself… worrying about how announcements sound over her mental health and well being… not a good look there, champ

I do think the shuttle is useful, like as a shortcut between eastern queens and Brooklyn and Coney Island, but it was never designed to handle 600’ trains. Extending just Franklin Ave, just Franklin and having the trains skip the other stations, would still put the end of the platform at the south side of Atlantic Avenue. It’s what did in Dean Street, after all.

https://abc7ny.com/transgender-subway-voice-bernie-wagenblast/13193214/

I wish her the best of luck.

5 hours ago, Calvin said:

I heard that…

I’m going to stop you right there. Unless you heard it from a source directly connected to the testing program… that is hearsay.

hell, they don’t even tell people like what’s going on with them.

6 hours ago, Ale188 said:

They can be, it's just you don't think so.

oh... they're not. They most certainly are not...

For example. they though the R143/R160 combo train was a "successful test" as the result of modifications to the cars...

It was a screw up that should have never left ENY yard.

1 hour ago, Wallyhorse said:

Interesting:

They could have more simply split the into two, running from 34-205 AND as a "Yellow " from Stillwell-96th Street-2nd Avenue, much like the was back in the '80s and as I remember again late 1990's-early 2000s during Manhattan Bridge construction.  The  in this scenario could have been from Stillwell-Prospect Park only.

And speaking of this G.O., this is another reason why I'd rebuild the Franklin shuttle back to two tracks and 600' platforms.  That would allow in a scenario like this the  to go to Franklin Avenue and allow connections to the (and late nights).  You could then perhaps also have the Franklin operate full-time between Franklin Avenue and Stillwell.

That is LESS simple. That is MORE confusing. Same reason they did not do the Yellow B and D routine 20 years ago. 

As for rebuilding the shuttle, that servers NO purpose so I don't know why you keep bringing it up. completely rebuilding it to a standard it NEVER was built for on the off chance it MIGHT be needed. You keep thinking BMT lines were served by trains longer than they actually were.

Well, it still runs four times a day, I would argue that qualifies…

4 hours ago, MJHmarc said:

Oh really,WoW…. so it will be some time if the T’s are even a go or no. I have a feeling  that Jamaica will only want R211T’s if just a’s they will keep their 160’s. 

Car assignments are the decision of the Division of Car Equipment. We take what we’re handed and we’re expected to like it.

could you not make assumptions about the issues we're facing if you're not privy to the information?

It has nothing to do whether there were four tracks worked on at a time or one. Also, tell people you're going to do long term shutdowns of Manhattan trunk lines and see how well that goes over with them.

27 minutes ago, 40 to 241st said:

When does the second batch of r211a come and what route will it do

 

I know you're new around here, but rule 1 when it comes to subway train assignments is "Cars are not assigned to lines, they are assigned to inspection shops." 

5 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if they cancelled the R211S order and diverted those cars to NYCT instead.

Why would we divert incompatible equipment to the subway? the 211Ss don't have CBTC hardware, so it would be a complete waste of time. 

I swear we need a Broadway line swear jar for this thread…

well, ideally, sometime this week.

SIRTOA is technically under Department of Subways but they're off in their own little corner, doing their own little thing. We really don't talk to them, and they really don't talk to us, 

That NTT Q run is also the end of a two trip midnight job, Vs the three trips the Q crews normally make.

8 hours ago, ABCDEFGJLMNQRSSSWZ said:

Did anything actually change from the "mockup" to the real thing? It looks literally exactly the same even on smaller features visible from the exterior; differences could be in the technology though.

That’s what mock ups are. It was a completely non-functional car, built to see how the actual cars would look. After that it was probably scrapped.