lupojohn

I had to re-read that. So from what I hear, the 112 goes on Jamaica and then over to Guy Brewer?

The Q112 utilizes Guy Brewer Blvd in the following order: South Rd, Liberty Av, Archer Av and then goes to Jamaica. The other direction(Ozone Park-bound), it uses Parsons Blvd/89 Av then Archer Av/160 St before going to those same 3 stops on Guy Brewer Blvd.

You seemed to bold the part of my post about the BxM1 with no response  .

very good man. he was awesome. smokin a cigarette while driving the bus too

Well, that's probably not a good thing.

Actually thats not quite try, there are plenty of buses throughout areas of NE Queens, Central Queens, SW Queens, Astoria, southern Brooklyn, Northwest Bronx, and other exclusive areas, which all are well utilized.

Usually, upper middle class people are described as someone who makes an income of $75,000-100,000, or even more.

 

I dont know how much you make (and I dont wanna drag it into a class debate, furthermore, I dont need to know). Ill let you determine that

I respect your decision on the matter. Let's just say I don't determine class by salary. If so, our friend here would not come close to qualifying for the upper middle class . 

Well my story today: I was at 231st St/Broadway and going to see family in Riverdale. Just as I got to the stop, a Bx7 had just pulled out, so then a Bx20 pulled in, I decided to hop on and transfer later. I got off at HH Pkway/239th St. by the monument. And no Bx7 or Bx10 was coming anytime soon. then it just happened that a northbound BxM18 bus was pulling into the stop, and the driver asked if I was going to Riverdale ave. then he let me on for NO CHARGE. I am glad to say there are still good people in this world.

He's a good man, but, as i've cited in all my examples, it should NOT be allowed. 

lol... If you say so... In any event, you're not a regular express bus rider, so you can't expect to be waived on like that.  Yonkers drivers are generally quite strict with enforcing the fare.  I know quite a few of the drivers personally, and some of them will allow it once IF you are respectful and have a legitimate reason and they know you regularly ride, but don't expect to get on there with some BS excuse over and over (or even worse, do what you did, drop a few coins in and walk and take a seat) because they will kick you off.  They take it as a disrespect and an abuse of their kindness.

 

I myself have been waived on by regulars. I used to have a bad habit of keeping my Metrocard on my kitchen counter and forgetting it.  I had a backup that didn't have enough on it and used it by mistake and only then realized that I had left my pass at home. The B/O waived me on since he knew I had a pass and clearly forgot it at home and I thanked him, as I would've had a long walk home and back to the bus stop.  The next day I made sure I had the pass.

What makes you think I am not upper middle class? This answer I am eagerly awaiting to hear.

As we've discussed in other threads and as I have mentioned, I ride the BxM1 literally every day. I even remember describing a driver to you that I caught several times.

You don't have a wallet to keep your MetroCard in with all your money?

Farebeating is FAR more common on the local buses.  Farebeating is not tolerated on express buses because the fare is higher and the types of people riding are usually upper middle class folks.  Completely different situation.  The demographic of most local bus riders consists mainly of poor people, with exceptions existing in some areas of the city, so farebeating is expected on the local buses.

 

The same set up with the subway vs Metro-North. I have seen riders kicked off of Metro-North for farebeating. They were given the option to get off at the next stop or have the cops called on them. 

I would categorize myself as upper middle class and I don't farebeat. It was a one time incident and, as such, that doesn't give the driver an excuse to assist in what you call farebeating.

The point is he didn't quote you and he didn't mention you in his post.  His comment was a general one which applies to quite a number of riders.

And the part about the local driver waving passengers on when they said nothing, whereas people said I should've said something?

Actually he didn't comment on your situation at all.  He made a statement in general which you are clearly sensitive about.

I doubt he would've said anything had I not brought it up since no one else was talking about this at present time. 

It's interesting people skip over the local bus driver waving the passengers on without them paying.

Maybe I am a bit sensitive because I didn't expect people to take the drivers' side due to what he said, but, without being repetitive, I don't want to get banned due to its content, so we'll leave this part of it here.

What bothers me is how people claim they didn't know that their Metrocard was empty or underfunded, since every time you dip it in the farebox, it shows the remaining balance. The problem is,most people don't bother to check that & then play dumb.

I don't think it's right for you to comment on my situation without knowing whether or not I check the card to see how much is on it. As I stated above, this has happened before on a local bus and while people did stop at the farebox, they said NOTHING and the driver waved them on.

Why wouldn't I? I'm an independent consultant on the side, so I am legally allowed to deduct my transportation expenses, along with other things that go with running one's own side business/working for yourself.  My side work forces me to travel a lot and so it's understood to be an expense that I incur as part of doing business.  I'm also allowed to deduct part of my cell phone expenses and a host of other things.  I keep the receipts just in case the IRS decides to do an audit of my expenses. 

 

For what it's worth, most people that work for a business enroll in a pre-tax program whereby whatever Metrocard they need gets deducted from their paycheck before they have taxes taken out, thereby making their tax burden lower since their gross looks smaller before they receive their net.

After reading this, especially that last part, all businesses should do this.

Most New Yorkers do not walk around with large amounts of cash. Aside from that the station agent cannot give you a receipt, which I need for all of my Metrocard transactions for tax purposes.

I never said they should. Take $10 or however much you need for that particular trip.

You mean to actually tell me that you seriously deduct your MetroCard transactions from your taxes?

Unless he said something particularly offensive or rude, I'm not sure what the problem was. It's not 'threatening you' with the police, that's just an actual thing he could have done. He could have called the cops but he was good enough not to, since believe me they would have been a lot ruder than he was. I'm sure he said that cause he figured he hadn't done much wrong.

As I said, I won't post what he said, so you should figure out what he said was rude and offensive and i've seen other people get on without saying much or even anything at all. Just the other day at The Hub, a driver on a local Bx4A waved two people on without them saying anything to him. It's not required by law for him to call the cops. That's a decision he made on his own. If he figured he hadn't done much wrong with how he acted and what he said, he should look for another job.

It sure isn't, and aside from that the Metrocard vending machines on the along Broadway are horrendous.  There is only one at 238th which usually doesn't work and the ones at 242nd are also spotty.  There's about 4 total machines there and on numerous occasions, only one of those machines have worked.

People can always purchase a MetroCard via the station agent and not just the machine.

Wait, you got on a bus with no fare, walked past the farebox without saying a thing, and then YOU sent a complaint in about the B/O for getting annoyed? What? 

He said a lot, some of which I won't post here due to its content and threatened me with the police 3 times. He has a job to do, but that doesn't mean he should overstep his bounds. I should also add that he actually said to me to go ahead and take the number of the bus, his badge number AND a picture. No lie. He actually said all of that. 

1. However, the "nature of the situation" didn't even have to happen given if you said something originally, doing that seems rather a rude gesture (because I mean, yes people are forgetful, people had things to do, or anything for whatever reason that they don't have enough balance on the card, at least explain something so he can understand what has happen, just going in makes you seem inconsiderate).

 

2. Been mentioned before (not precisely), forgot what it was, don't care about it, not even what I was trying to ask. The general point is that it is not that easy of a walk.

 

1. I'm not going to lie to him and pretend I didn't know I was short. 

2. It is what it is.

1. Well, still, regardless, you shouldn't just go and sit like that. Even though it's less than a dollar, you're bound to have an argument with the driver. Just say I'm sorry, I didn't realize I didn't have enough money, or something different, but you can't just do that (maybe you don't see it that way, but for some drivers, it is seen as an insult, especially since you can easily tell when someone didn't pay enough fare).

 

2. Why not, if they have the specific metrocards they need. And it's not that long of a walk to where exactly? I do know that I don't live in the area, but I also do know how damn hilly the area is, and the topography changes on every street all the time.

Simply put: if he's going to say something(which he is bound to do given the nature of the situation), he should do his job with courtesy and respect. If he had done that, I would've granted him an apology.

I would tell you the exact location of the store, but I don't think he would want me to give out his street number. We may disagree on almost everything, but i'm not going to go as far as to give out private information.

The difference here is, you didn't bother explaining anything. Sure, he might've let on if you explained, but by not doing that (which is what you did), you gave him the expression that you're doing it on purpose, not willing to pay the fare, and that's gonna piss the driver off (especially if you had less then half of the typical express bus fare charge). On a side note, that happened to me once, driver told me I need to put in two more dollars, and I had two dollars in bills (and there was only one other person on the bus), so he just let me on (given how I paid and what much of a hassle it would be if the other person didn't have change.

 

 

And second of all, he didn't say citizens run out of money, he means the stores in the community run out of metrocards, and not all of them work near a subway station. 

I was short by less than a dollar.

If they had the money(i'll assume some do, some don't. That's a safe assumption), they wouldn't be going to a store to a begin with. Granted, HHP is out of the mainstream in regards to any bus or train station to obtain a MetroCard, but it's not that long of a walk.

Well yeah, you're getting on his bus, coming up short on the fare and walking past the farebox and taking a seat like everything is okay as if he is so incompetent that he won't know.  He's absolutely right.  Now in my neighborhood folks get on without Metrocards often because there is only one store that sells them and they run out frequently, and the B/O's know there is nowhere to fill up or get new ones if the store is out so they're understanding, but you have to explain the situation and be polite about it.

If he's going to say something, he should be polite about it. As Shane said before, which also applies here, if you want to get respect, you have to give it. As well, him admitting he would've let me on the bus killed his argument. Saying he was getting the police 3 times is uncalled for. Regarding what you said(as you once again bring it back to your particular neighborhood or bus  ), the rules are rules. They apply to all. I'm surprised such an affluent neighborhood as yours would have citizens who run out of money.

I was once fanning at an Metro North station and the MTA cop asked me if I was filming trains for a rap video 

 

I was once accused of being a sniper by a B/O. Weirdest accusation ever.

I once got on an express bus(3389 on the BxM11), didn't have the full fare(only time that's ever happened to me on an express bus), the B/O started a fight with me because he didn't like that I walked past the farebox, yet he said later in the argument that if I would've explained to him why I didn't have the full fare, he would've let me board with no problems. Threatened the police on me 3 times. Guy was a total a**hole and killed his whole argument with that statement. Reported and photographed for the complaint I sent to the . I later got on the same express route, explained this to that particular B/O and he agreed with me. 

I rode a Bx4 Orion 5 gen today for the first time, and I'll say this much: It dosen't need artics, but artics would help it out with the crowds it gets at Southern Boulevard.

Number?

Has the ever considered building the other platform at Aqueduct Racetrack?

Service Change  Posted: 11/07/2014  4:28PM 

Some northbound  trains are running on the  line from Nevins St to 149 St-Grand Concourse.

It seems like this is a frequent occurrence.

Although the and were all making local stops southbound on CPW in the afternoon for some reason, which apparently wasn't happening in the morning. I think there were some marathon-related festivites going on but I'm not sure...

 

There was a rail condition on the express tracks, but after a few minutes, all express service resumed.

Friday Night + Halloween + Ebola Paranoia = insufficient clean trains after a hard night of partying on the subway. There were R160's running in unexpected places today to help cover gaps.

Such as the via the or are you talking about elsewhere?

I see that there making the R32 train not only for PM Rush but until it's time for the to make all local stops. Saw the R32 headed to 207st at 42nd St at 10 pm.

I caught it at 5:13pm at 168th Street.