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7 minutes ago, Nonaggression said:

4037 is retired apparently..this is probably the second ECH NG to ever retire after 4143 

It’s at the reserve lot with farebox still intact. It did run yesterday so let’s see if anyone can give confirmation on it being decommissioned.

3687 to Eastchester scrap. 3521, reported by @Calvin, is at the scrap lot too.

17 minutes ago, Nonaggression said:

What were the units that was “retired” in scrap damaged by IDA

Several Castleton units were damaged, though some notable ones were out for quite a while : 2645, 2660, 2673, 2716 (With buses returning to service over the course of this year). Orion VII units 7047 and 7049 have been out of service as well, both sitting at the Eastchester lot with no signs of them coming back. Other Castleton units got damaged, but were quickly returned to service in late 2021-early 2022 as those units didn’t receive severe damage like other buses did.

Future note, it would be preferred if general questions are posted in the random thoughts thread on this site so the move thread doesn’t get cluttered.

Just now, RSMG106 said:

9006 was delivered to Baisley Park on October 9th. However, for some reason it hasn't ran. Although it was first seen on the N shuttle on November 19th. It's possible that 9006 is getting it's AC repaired in New Jersey.

I was wondering as not too long after that, someone showed me it wasn't even on the system at BP weeks after you posted it was delivered.

6 minutes ago, RSMG106 said:

9006 was delivered to Baisley Park not to long ago.

I don't think it was. Has anyone spotted the unit in person?

23 minutes ago, Nonaggression said:

8040 Jamaica to Casey Stengel. Currently on the Q20B. Casey is currently short on buses as the moment so expect more loans happening here and there 

The loans have been occuring for months.

50 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

7840 was on the x27 earlier. What is going on? 😂

Was there are photo or was this yet another bustime glitch as the bus is on the B3.

16 minutes ago, Nonaggression said:

1202, 5770 Gun Hill, 6190 Quill, 6195 Hale, 9900 Manhattanville to Tuskegee 

All loans for the day. Tuskegee borrows buses from all over every day. Same with Hale borrowing buses from The Bronx as of late.

Question for Queens users here, was there really demand to have the Q44 go to Fordham on the Queens side? I can see why riders in The Bronx would be happy to have a faster alternative to Fordham compared to the Bx9, but was there demand for Queens riders to have a one-seat ride to Fordham?

That Q50 is a double-edged sword. I'm happy to see it gain 24/7 service (it keeps the changes made in the Bronx redesign last year), though at the cost of seeing the route crawl when covering the old Q48 routing to LGA.

On 12/12/2023 at 6:54 AM, MTAFoamer said:

4204 both to JFK from Baisley

22 hours ago, RSMG106 said:

4626: Baisley Park to JFK. 

Both 4204 and 4626 are back at Baisley. They were at JFK on loan for the day yesterday.

As a person who doesn't live in Queens, there are some things that caught my eye. These are my opinions as an outsider:

For the Q7, I wonder if there is demand for bus service on Rockaway Blvd west of Woodhaven. Seeing the Q112 replace it in Brooklyn will be interesting to see.

I wonder if having the Q8 end at the New Lots  station was necessary.

Thank the lord the Q10/64 fusion was axed. The Q11/21 fusion I'm a-okay with.

The Q26 given and significant expansion is interesting, though I wonder if the route would be efficient that way.

I like the Q27 being taken off Holly Ave. I never quite understood why it had that routing on that narrow street to begin with.

I think students of QCC benefit from the Q30 becoming a limited route to that school, though I'm not sure there is great demand for it to be that way.

It's funny seeing the little turn at Queens Plaza be removed from the westbound Q32 routing. It's also weird to see the eastbound stop at 34th St be removed. I would of cut the 32nd St stop instead.

It's funny to see the  undo what they did 10 years ago with sending the Q33 back to the airport. Was there demand for local service to the airport from residents there?

I like the Q37 being sent to the airport so that Q10 local buses would stick to Lefferts full-time.

I'm fine with the Q44 being kept at the Zoo instead of extending it to Fordham Plaza, though I do get why people liked the proposed alternative to using the Bx9 from West Farms.

I'm sure the 3 Union Turnpike variants (plus the Q75) would confuse the hell out of riders over there during the first few months.

Well, riders in The Bronx finally got the route to LGA they always seemed to want (though obviously not in the way many wanted it to be).

I kind of dig the streamlining of the Q66.

I don't know how I feel about the proposed inter-borough routes (B53 and Q68), though those are being held off until the Brooklyn re-design is implemented. I have the same concern about the re-designed B57, with service in Red Hook being axed in favor of service north of Maspeth. Same with the B62 serving 21st Street in Queens.

I'm not surprised by the overall reduction of service on express routes. I'm pretty sure the  would of preferred to get away with making all express routes in Queens rush-hours only.

I do wonder why they decided to add a stop at 1st Ave-34th St for the express routes that go to the Financial District (QM7, QM8, QM11, QM25, & the new QM65).

Again, these are just my opinions and observations from a PDF proposal. I'm pretty sure regular Queens riders would have stronger opinions than I do here.

3 hours ago, MTAFoamer said:

4052, 4204 both to JFK from Baisley

4204 must be there on loan. JFK has been borrowing buses from Baisley as of late.

7 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

NJT needs to come up with a better way of doing fare payments. There is no reason the driver has to be collecting tickets, especially at Port Authority. I can’t even begin to remember how many times I’ve left PABT late because all I’m doing is taking tickets or helping someone to buy one.

I've seen drivers pick up passengers a few minutes early so they have time to collect tickets or see those bought with the mobile app. Ticket collection is a hell of a lot faster than collecting cash from people that don't have it ready or don't know how much the zone fare is until they board.

On 12/4/2023 at 8:12 AM, RSMG106 said:

5453: Mother Clara Hale to Gun Hill.

5453 is back at Hale (Never assigned to GH). They get a unit or two on loan almost every day like Quill borrows artics from The Bronx every morning.

1 hour ago, Cait Sith said:

Source? Last I read, it was supposed to be less than 50 XDE40s and 10 XDE35s to send the short Orion Vs into retirement.

They're most likely taking the word from what's on the wikis. Even I'm confused as to where that info came from.

Just now, NJTE said:

I haven’t seen it posted here yet. Or might of and I missed it

You missed the post. @DCTransitFilms posted about it in late October.

2 hours ago, MNR Beacon Line said:

Was on the 84P out of journal square.

The 84P is a ONEBus route so the unit in question is not an ex Coach USA bus. It looks like the tap and go readers are not on the contracted routes as of yet.

11 hours ago, Q43LTD said:

In addition, no routes will be moving anywhere 

Yup, yup. The current depot will still be active during the time the new one is being constructed.

OPINION bit: That’s smart imo. Also, Moving routes and buses over to Stengel and QV would have been a logistical nightmare.

The plans for the new Jamaica depot have been outlined. https://new.mta.info/project/jamaica-bus-depot-expansion

Phase  for the construction of the temporary parking lot at York College (Q2-Q4 of this year)

Phase  for the demolition of the current parking lot and construction of the new depot (Q2 2024-Q3 2025)

Phase  for remediation and demolition of existing bus depot and south lot (Q3 2025-Q2 2026)

Phase  for the new parking lot and administrative building (Q4 2025-Q1 2027)

The whole project is expected to be fully completed by Q1 2027.

54 minutes ago, MTAFoamer said:

Yes, Queens will be full Nova Bus in the future

I don't think it is. From what I remember, Jamaica is a training depot and the Xcelsiors are the standard training buses so they kept some Xcelsiors after the swap with GH earlier this year. Someone feel free to correct this.

8 minutes ago, Calvin said:

I wonder how the Next Gens Manhattanville loaned to Quill got its stickers (Quill itself) but to be sent back to its original depot later in hours or a day. Meanwhile, it's a thought if ENY actually needed the 6 Next Gens despite them being 100% New Flyer back then. 

Bus depots slapping their decals on loaned buses is quite common.

Another user posted these on the Bus moves thread, but I figured they fit here for consistency sake: 7137, 7139, 7146, 7153, 7161, 7167, 7168, 7171, 7173, 7175, 7178, 9016, 9041 have been retired.

6 hours ago, RSMG106 said:

5308-5309: Kingsbridge to Tuskegee Airmen. 5309 has TU stickers, however 5308 doesn't. 

With those two sent down there, 5825 was sent up here in exchange. Still not sure if they're just loans though.

58 minutes ago, xD4nn said:

7568 isn't going to stay at MV... It will most likely head down to Brooklyn (possibly Ulmer or Grand) or head back to Jamaica. 

Well the DOB has done crazy things in the past so I wouldn't rule out the possibilty of it staying in Manhattan (Either MHV keeps it ot its sent to Quill with the other 7500s).

3 hours ago, go25 said:

5312 spotted late last night on the 107 at Newark Airport

The bus was on the 90 not too long ago. It could be a loan from Greenville.