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11 minutes ago, I Run Trains said:

Well The Thing with the Northbound trains, It those burnside stops are actually not short turns! 80% of those guys doing those runs are Midnight guys who are bringing the train back to the yard. Not a lot of those trains are going back south! same with trains that terminate at Beford Park

And yes.. those T/O create those Gap filler problems because the went past the mark, or the went out too fastened CHOW!

Man those AM jobs that drop out at Burnside are the ish, those are usually the heavy hitter penalty jobs and the WAA is beautiful lol. 

7 minutes ago, Union Tpke said:

In terms of the crewing.

Am crews atleast when I worked one of those jobs start up at Woodlawn make a trip down to Utica and on our way back we drop out at Burnside. Midnight crew go from WDL-NLTS and on their last half (2nd trip) from Utica they drop out at Burnside. 

14 hours ago, J Cooper said:

I'm gearing towards B division if we get the chance to pick, hopefully i get it.

More than likely you're going to the B division. Currently there's a shortage of conductors in the B, so much so that they've been recruiting conductors who don't have picked jobs in the A division to come over. 

17 hours ago, Late Clear said:

 

T/O or C/R?   I know they were looking for C/Rs to transfer over to the B.  

Good luck.

C/R. I start posting on Monday & thanks.

16 hours ago, Imhim said:

Yeah the equipment should be easy to get used to, don’t know your tour but them 32s definitely are annoying for C/Rs especially on the midnights smh! I know you’ll be fine overall tho, gotta think positive down here! 

Thanks bro. I volunteered to come over as XX so we'll see, but I'm hoping they keep me AM's like I was in the A. Gotta little "seniority" under my belt so I hope they'll be nice lol. 

13 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said:

You've got me sitting here laughing. Remember that when I broke in the A Division was totally SMEE.  When I moved up front everyone,  especially the fairer sex, wanted the B Division.  That's where the newer equipment was. There was also the R44, R46 factor added to the mix. Some people wanted to look cool and the raggedy equipment in the A was looked down upon. I was lucky enough to have a choice so I stayed put. The IRT was definitely a family atmosphere compared to the BMT-IND. I learned that when I used to transfer horses to CI Yard for the R62A deliveries. My classmates couldn't wait to pick back to the IRT. Funny thing is that toward the end of my career many B Division supervisors were transferred to the IRT because of some issues they had in the B. I used to get along with our new General Supt. when he came over. He had no respect for most of the supervisors he encountered in the B  Division.  He actually had TSS s walking his (show) dogs for him. Totally eccentric but he had my back. When he found out that my C/R and I didn't report to any supervisor when we reported on duty he was livid but not with us. We told him that we had the same opinion of some of our IRT supervision so we became his buddies. Just remember that we were taught that whatever reputation you have will carry over wherever you go in RTO.  Good luck.  Carry on .

Haha thanks for your kind words, Trainmaster. Yes times have definitely changed, now the B div is the one with all of the dinosaur equipment. Also It definitely is like a big family in the A I've been down here for almost a year and a half now and I've built bonds with some of the crews and supervisors that are stronger than the bond I have with some of my blood relatives.

I have to do over three decades until I can retire due to my age so I just want to learn as much as possible and move up. Hoping to retire as a schoolcar TSS.

Oh yeah and I'm not even surprised about that story about that Supt making people walk his dogs. Nothing surprises me down here anymore lmao, 

On 12/15/2019 at 3:56 PM, Imhim said:

Don’t be it’s not that bad, lol just gotta get used to the new attitudes you’re gonna have to experience but I don’t think the operation is big difference.

Lol that's what I'm worried about, I heard stories about how they get down in the B div lmao it's like family in the A. Then to add icing to the cake when the  TSS's were explaining drum switches on the 32's and BCO's my head started spinning. Hopefully stuff will start to kick in once we go into the field. 

Start my "A" to "B" transfer tomorrow, I'm a nervous wreck lol. 

3 hours ago, nickynick86 said:

Just received my medical/final processing  email. List #18**. Anyone close to that number be on the lookout for an email. Class starts Jan 6th.

Congrats and good luck with the process.

1 hour ago, Calvin said:

North Subdivision, I mean referenced from the TTMG subway roster

https://www.ttmg.org/insidersguide/new-york-mta-subway-roster-yard/

@TM5 my first time hearing this also.

I have no clue why that site refers to it as that however we officially don't refer to the A division as the northern division. We do have two 'districts' within the A div East side   GC  and West side  but that's mainly for job picking purposes. The B div does have a "North" district though. 

Drifting back to topic, just as I was thinking about drifting over to the B div to work the  &  lines they want to put that junk back on those lines . Grrr

53 minutes ago, Sixgvd94 said:

for those of you considering to transfer from A to B division? Just know its a crap ton more report locations and a lot more to deal with and I do believe there are trains you guys probably haven't even been on like the R46's and the new 179's. Make sure you guys get as much info as possible before you make a decision 

From our “operational” standpoint it really isn’t much different. A train is a train and an MDC is an MDC at the end of the day.The reporting locations and the fact that I might have to give up my tour/rdo’s is swaying my decision tho...

1 hour ago, Riku said:

I feel you, u already got the skills tho if u do come cause I must be hearing stories about the A division it makes u into a good conductor cause of how fast pace it is lol.

Every School car TSS I spoke with told me the 1 & 6 will make you a real conductor. Them lines almost made me quit lol real talk. 

Not tryna get too off topic here. I think it may be safe to say that the next few classes that get hired will get forced into the B div though so keep that in mind to you hopefuls who are close to being called. 

21 hours ago, Schecter said:

Oh and random but the crew office is asking if anybody in the A division as a conductor wants me to move into the B division. They'll have to write a G2 to the crew office. So I believe they're short on conductors just food for thought and for anybody who's in the A division and wants to switch to the B division they have until December 11th to write a G2 to the crew office.

This is the second notice they’re putting out too. They’re probably going to start drafting ppl from the bottom of the xx list if they don’t get enough volunteers. 

1 hour ago, Schecter said:

I would go over to the B cuz I love the B but imagine the crew office throws us A division peeps on the A during midnights 💀☠

I've been AM's with Sun/Sat for a year and some change now and I get decent jobs for the most part, don't want to risk going over there and having my tour/rdo's changed. I called earlier and was told I keep my "seniority" but being XX we're subject to have our tour/rdo's changed on a weekly basis. 

2 hours ago, Riku said:

Damn we are that short on conductors in the B division, one class in August just came out and there’s a October class already in lol 

I've heard that they've been ABD'ing intervals over there due to the lack of personnel. It's crazy

1 hour ago, GreatOne2k said:

Why is Grand Central different?

It’s like being in a dungeon. It’s a dark Small cramped room with no cell service, and the AM dispatcher is a piece of work...

Sidenote: B division is looking for XX conductors from the A to transfer over. I’m really strongly considering it, but the A div crew office has been treating me amazing.

29 minutes ago, Riku said:

Been working heavy, they really kicked you off the road for that? Wow I ain’t even know that was possible when it comes to evaluations.

If he has to have his name put back on the list it sounds like they did more than "kick" him off the road, sounds like he got terminated.

8 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said:

They can carry line maps with them. This is a huge part of their job so they need to get it right. 

I’m not disputing what you’re saying, however what the other poster is saying may very well be true that person is probably new and we’re human at the end of the day we make mistakes from time to time. When I was brand new a lot of my instructors tried to sway me from relying on strip maps. When you’re being bounced from line to line daily while still trying to learn the job you can slip up from time to time. It happens.

I hope that poster has the privilege of making a mistake on their job without the accusations of being drunk.

8 hours ago, Abba said:

Question:

if a train has a door problem and cannot be overcome. Do they have to discharge the whole train or in some cases just the car that has the issue?

Usually they’ll discharge the train and then we’ll pick up an RCI (road car inspector) somewhere along the route to see if he/she can correct the issue. If they can they’ll usually put the train back in service again. 

2 hours ago, Dave2836 said:

I think he's ready for the road.  The crew office seemed to think so as well.

The same crew office that assigned me to take a track safety course from 3-11PM, then gave me a 4am road job the next day? Shid lol. 

2 hours ago, S78 via Hylan said:

 

 

 

On a separate note, is there any reason Subway time shows the  running at 8-minute headways when it’s scheduled to run every 4-6? I checked and there are no GOs or any planned work along the line for this weekend. There isn’t the first time I’ve noticed either.

They're running a supplement schedule this weekend.

18 hours ago, Schecter said:

Yeah I heard about the ATD exam but I wonder if we can apply for it yet, like must we pass probation or w.e

You can apply for it. By the time they call establish the list and call  you, you’ll be off probation anyway. 

8 hours ago, acabral136 said:

I'm only 2 months in, I doubt I can apply yet. But isn't ATD the promotional exam for Conductors? I'm a t/o I heard we take the dispatcher exam and Conductors do the assistant dispatcher. Idk, I just passed my signal test and have my final yard practical coming up, so my mind is just on those things right now. Thanks though. 

Sorry about that, I thought you were a C/R. 

5 hours ago, Nyctransitorhotels said:

Just checked real quick that thread out. Wow T/O start at $34 and in 1 yr get to $36. That's a good contract. Kind baffling conductors don't have something similar. 

 

Anyway idk why anyone would not go after T/O if that's the case. But I guess you're saying that it if you do Conductor pass the yr and then get the T/O job if you get fired. You can go back to being a conductor. 

 

Do you get extra points or preference for being already in MTA and taking what seems like a promotion exam? 

 

Do they give T/O exams ever to a just small group? Or always citywide? 

No there's no extra points or preference since technically he'll be hired off of the O/C list, although they'll treat him like a promotional. 

They have promotional and open competitive exams for Train Operator, which are usually given around the same time. Promotionals are for current employees such as Conductors, Bus Operators, etc... When a promotional and open exam for a title like Conductor or Train Operator is given the promotional exam must be used first though before the O/C.

@Riku @Schecter @acabral136 Just incase you guys may be interested, the filing for ATD begins on October 4th. 

3 hours ago, biGC323232 said:

I wish the Livonia ave line had it that simple....I got 7 stations before a transfer to express service...What makes them so special....

That’s a bit of an apples to oranges comparison IMO. Riders coming from Lefferts would have to travel through two boroughs just to get to Manhattan, and the track geometry on the latter’s  line supports the service whereas the switches would need to be configured to give Livonia express service in Brooklyn.  would need to be reconfigured. 

There are six “express” intervals that run on the Livonia line every weekday though during the AM rush. 

8 hours ago, Sixgvd94 said:

Is it possible that you can ask him exactly how the process went for him. I got hit and was encouraged to put my name back on the list so im trying to figure out what to do and whats gonna happen

Sorry I haven't spoken to this individual since August of last year, don't even think I have his phone number. You can try to contact the HR at Livingston or try DCAS I'm sure they'll be more insightful than me. And I'm sorry that you had to go through that. I'm getting my info from another one of my classmates who ran into him

2 hours ago, Schecter said:

If you fail the yard practical you're allowed to take it again. If you fail the road practical then it's over for you. You get two chances for the yard practical and only one chance for the road practical.

I should've been more specific in my post. He failed both the initial test along with the retake and essentially was let go. Had to turn all of his stuff in. Now he's back into a later class

23 hours ago, Far Rock Depot said:

Once you got hired,  that's it for you on that list. 

You can indeed take the next test. 

I'm currently working on getting recertified onto this list since I was one in three'd. That you can try. 

You positive about that? One of my classmates failed the yard practical and I’m hearing he got hired again into a later class.

Goodluck with your process. 

20 hours ago, Schecter said:

I'm always wondering if I've ever seen any of you guys while I'm down here working I'm always smiling at the conductor across from me hoping it's one of you LOL

If you’re in the A division and you see a baby faced tall (extremely handsome) twig than most likely that’s me. 

1 hour ago, Sixgvd94 said:

Does anybody know someone that didnt make it through probation and put their name back on the list with DCAS

I believe my classmate did it. He failed the yard practical and I'm hearing that he got into a later class off this same list.

1 hour ago, Schecter said:

Woah wtf you guys are almost done?? That went by super quickly, it's been good but god help me these customers drive you up the wall making you wanna pull your hair out. 

That next promotion to train operator exam can't come soon enough, I'm tired of these damn people lol. I don't know how some of these senior C/R's do it, can't see myself doing this job for more than 5 years and I only have a year down here.

On 9/2/2019 at 6:17 PM, MarkGuy said:

Yeah I was like, “damn how do people hold these down For an 8 hr shift and more?”

these earplugs u get at 248 are trash. I need the larger ones I see some ops with 

They didn't issue them to you guys when you got your tools? I hate wearing mine I'd rather wear the orange plugs lol. 

59 minutes ago, shiznit1987 said:

Here's some food for thought regarding service cuts: 

 241st-Wakefield to South Ferry via 7th Ave Express.

 Current Service

 Sent down Nostrand. Runs local in Brooklyn, Express Manhattan. 

 

To make things easier from a customer standpoint, from this point forward the  would become the primary Nostrand Line with the  as it's rush hour supplement. and the  will remain as is with the  terminating at Utica during rush hours. This plan means the  can be shuttle-ized outside peak periods while both the  and  are kept to medium distance w/ access to their home yards. Off peak, this will reduce  delays and maybe even save on maintenance on the  fleet. 

If your goal is to reduce costs from these service changes as another poster pointed out you now have to add extra midnight jobs (extra crews) to run that 24/7  service, and the money from that ‘savings’ from the  fleet now has to be used to maintain the  lines fleet which uses the oldest equipment in its respective division.

As far as making things easier from a customers standpoint the riders are generally accustomed to the service patterns that are currently ran. What you’re suggesting would literally do the opposite of what you’re trying to accomplish. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve worked the  doing a run that drops out at  Utica I’ll make a manual announcement leaving Barclays S/B about the train going to UA not Flatbush, then another when we get to Franklin only to have people come up to me after we get to Utica do they get to Beverly Road.