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32 minutes ago, Amtrak706 said:
GE pair 3594/3595, they are at Floyd Bennett Field.
Weren’t the GE cars some random oddballs that broke down a lot?
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4 hours ago, Union Tpke said:
There is something else that has been in the pipeline for some time, not here, but somewhere else. That is all I can say. Wait for the spring.
Any specific month?
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23 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:
Again a new subject:
We have a list of 20 newly retired R-32s at 207, presumably to be batched processing (stripped) for scrapping soon.
IF this is done as the last time so around 2010 and the reefing before that, all were dismembered at Tracks 11 & 12 inside the Main Shops.
Lets see how this works.
It appears a guess so far will entail 20 cars per work for 4 weeks (that would be the 80 cars as widely circulated).
Interested in the specific car numbers or is that TMI?
What were the car numbers?
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1 hour ago, paulbyron said:
145 St ()
Nostrand Ave ()
Van Siclen Ave ()
Aqueduct Racetrack ()
155 St ( and )
Lafayette Ave ()
Broad St ( and )
Hewes St (, , and )
I'd avoid closing 155th given the terrain of the area makes it hard to walk to the .
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19 minutes ago, Jova42R said:
Scenario:
There is an NYPD investigation at 4 Av-9 St. The cannot pass through. The can pass through, however
A train on the Bay Ridge Branch derails at E 16 St, crashing into the structure and closing Avenue H station.
A train derails at Broadway Junction, then falls off the tracks, closing the .
A train runs past a mis-set switch at Wall St, then stalls, blocking all service in the Clark St Tunnel, and closing Wall St station.
Reroute:
Can we please have realistic scenarios that do not involve freak derailments?
Anyways, moving on, I'll present a new kind of scenario:
Budget cuts force the MTA to cut down on station maintenance and as a result 8 stations will need to be closed. Keep in mind that you cannot simply close a station just on the basis of low ridership and you must also take into account proximity to other stations. Here are my 8:
Hewes St
Van Siclen
Beverley
Neptune
Classon
Aqueduct Racetrack
104th
Van Siclen
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13 minutes ago, RR503 said:
This report, which came out yesterday, has some really interesting discussion of a lot of the issues we've discussed here previously. Highly recommend giving it a read.
Some key takeaways in my eyes:
- NYCT acknowledges the operational issues at Nostrand/142/149, and acknowledges the need to make investments/routing changes
- NYCT acknowledges R68 propulsion issues (and also gives a bunch of really interesting data on pre- and post-field shunting elimination acceleration profiles for various car classes)
- Lots of good stuff on timer/speed sign visibility
- Disappointing lack of analysis of dwell time issues and off peak service problems
- Super interesting applications of axle counters to shorten fixed dwells at force and lock controlled interlockings
Did they ever do a similar report on say, 34th or 11th St?
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1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:
So is this why they never swapped the the and and have the be express, even though that meant less merging?
Yes
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19 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:
All of you make valid points.
But since were on the topic of merging, does the really save a lot of time running express between 3rd Av and East 180th St, especially with all that merging nonsense and those slow curves? I think not, so why does continue to run it?
The reason for a service existing is to separate north WPR and Dyre crowds - Dyre mainly consists of Manhattan-bound riders (mainly for the east side) while WPR consists more of intra-borough traffic. It therefore makes sense to separate these two crowds by having the mainly serve the intra-borough traffic (considering a lower demand for the West Side and the 's slower route into midtown) and having the run express considering that more riders there are commuting into Manhattan for the east side.
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De-interlining plan for Queens:
runs express south of 50th via new switches (late night service still stops at 23rd and Spring)
same as today
same as today
Forest Hills-WTC via QBL local, 53rd and 8th local (weekdays only except late nights)
via 63rd (runs to Forest Hills all times except late nights)
96th/125th-CI via Broadway express and then normal routing
same as today
Astoria-Bay Ridge
eliminated or preserved for the few short turns
skip stop eliminated; express service runs express between Marcy and Broadway Junction in the peak direction
Some new extensions:
Some extensions/other changes to improve service:
to 162nd-Northern (one intermediate express stop at 149th-Murray Hill)
to Springfield Blvd (2 tracks; cut and cover down middle of Hillside) with stops at 188th, 196th, Francis Lewis, 212th and Springfield)
one stop extension to Merrick-168th
QBP-QP passage
Lex 63rd-Lex 59th passage
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People need to stop with this idea of sending the via the in the Bronx. We don’t need more interlining and the emptier is critical for Harlem and UWS riders. This foamer idea needs to die.
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Can we stop egging people on and fanning the flames and instead act like mature adults and ignore those who bother us?
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52 minutes ago, bobtehpanda said:
Personally, the main reason why I wouldn't suggest any sort of PATH (or subway) integration with the railroads, FRA not withstanding, is that LIRR trains are much larger and much longer, whereas our existing rapid-transit systems have shorter cars, so you'd either be forced to kneecap capacity or do an expensive platform extension program, if such a thing were even possible at all of the affected PATH or subway stations.
Under this plan you would convert the Atlantic branch to PATH standards, not the other way around.
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2 hours ago, RR503 said:
Inter-agency politics aren’t even the reason this hasn’t happened — it’s construction costs and imagination! You’re connecting LIRR to LIRR through LIRR’s basement terminal at GCT here; nobody else need be involved.
The only question in my mind is whether this is a good use of Atlantic’s expansion potential. There are many good arguments to be made for extending that line to connect with MNR or NJT rather than looping back on itself to foster through-core travel. A train from Valley Stream to White Plains would be quite useful.
What about PATH to Jamaica via the Atlantic branch?
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1 hour ago, m2fwannabe said:
Well, you are correct that the R-42s aren't being "scrapped" per se, but as far as any future for passenger service, there is none.
The active R-42 fleet is down to one 8-car consist plus one pair (10 total) at the end of the PM as of December 23.
Let's see what happens tomorrow (Christmas Eve).
Do you know what numbers the remaining cars happen to be?
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4 minutes ago, Jemorie said:
Oh don’t get me wrong. It’s a pretty fast express. It just depends on the T/O in question. Same with the other expresses in the system.
The only consistent fast place to me is Chambers-96 on the . 6th between West 4th and 34th also feels rather fast at times.
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1 hour ago, Jemorie said:
And don't get me started on the slow express. For a line that does not have any timers along its express run in Brooklyn (save for the approach/leaving Brighton Beach), that kind of operation is just a big no-no.
Even with the R68s, I've found the to still be rather fast as an express (save for SB heading towards Avenue H).
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44 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said:
The only two stations that I know of that are like that is 145th street on the and 238th on the .
238th on the I think is available to enter northbound (IIRC they never removed the entrance after the Manhattan bound platform rehabilitation project). As for other stations like this, I think Dyckman is also entrance only.
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2 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:
Now there is NO DOUBT. The status for those 24 MK R-42s and maybe more are R-E-T-I-R-E-D...as in Forever!! How more clearer can there be?
Do they plan to start to finish off some R32s as well? Could we see this R32s move elsewhere or will they stay at 207th until 2021?
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Can we go back to normal scenarios on this thread? If we have a volcanic eruption in this city we’ve got better things to worry about than how to reroute trains...
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Given the lack of switching, has Canal been running smoother this weekend or is the difference unnoticeable?
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What is the exact proposal that most people are going for here? What part of the line are underground, where will the stations be, and where will the line terminate?
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54 minutes ago, T to Dyre Avenue said:
Wouldn’t it just be easier for the R211s to replace both the Pitkin/207th and the CI R46s directly? Why even send the R160s back to CI? Seems wasteful to have to spend all that time transferring so many subway cars back to their former yard after already sending them up there for CBTC operations on Queens Blvd. Just give those 211s to CI.
The need the R211s because the gangways and wider doors will allow for shorter dwell times on the jam-packed QBL.
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14 hours ago, NYCTNostalgia said:
This is probably totally inaccurate
I'm just trying to do some math there. According to Lance's 09/16/2019 Car assignments:
- uses 104-112 R46's
- uses 248 R46's
So I assume that 360 R46's (not including spares or extras for potential fleet expansion) are being transferred from Jamaica to Coney Island, roughly 45 sets.
- uses 290 R160's (along with 24 R68's and 8 R68A's)
- uses 210 R160's (along with 8 R68/A's during the PM Rush)
Roughly 50 sets of R160's are at Coney, with a minimum of 45 being transferred to Jamaica.
Crap , not gonna lie. As a South Brooklyn commuter on the and , I'm a little disappointed. A lot of R46's are pretty beat up and not a good look, especially if they're moved over to Brighton. I'd also miss those 46's on QBL. It's gonna be strange not to see them on the or . On the plus side though, I think that means we'll (Coney) get R211's starting next year 😁 (if delivery is on schedule of course).
Thanks for reading my mindless ramble. Carry on 🤣
I’d imagine the R211s would directly replace the 207th R46s while they indirectly replace the CI ones by displacing Jamaica R160s.
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Just now, R32 3838 said:
R46 swap with Jamaica, Jamaica will become 100% R160
So Jamaica's R46s are going to go to the in exchange for 160s?
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The is probably the most reliable B division line overall. It’s a great line given how few GOs it has on the weekend and how its minimal interlining make it one of the few lines to be about the same weekdays and weekends...