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On 4/22/2024 at 3:12 PM, 2ride said:

Someone said don’t score below 92. 

Also, can you tell me the last time people who took the conductor test got called with scores of 80-95? 

They'll get to you if you score i would say even an 85 and possibly lower if they keep it open as long as this last exam was open. I got a 96.7 or 96.1 i forgot exactly.  I was called December 2019 i had number low 1900's. So a bit over 3 years from the exam to get the letter with a 96 score. 

On 3/19/2023 at 1:28 PM, Brivera0529 said:

Hello All,

 

I haven't really seen a dedicated forum for this. Maybe someone can point me in the right direction. Just had a question about the metro north training process for assistant conductor as the April class is approaching and I would like to know what to expect.  Thank you.

Seems you've already been selected to attend the class. I just applied for the position yesterday. I got the rate of pay breakdown. Just curious if you or anyone else would know, if they put you mandatorily in a conductor program? And if so how long is the program?  How long does it then take to get to full rate of pay for conductor or do you just get the full rate effective as soon as you get the conductor job? 

On 1/29/2021 at 3:13 PM, Schecter said:

When I went in for train operator medical/final processing I've seen some people go in for final processing for conductor getting their fingerprints done idk if they're they're the forum or not 

Nice 👍. How long have you been a conductor for 1.5 years? Do you qualify for full rate on a  transfer for Train operator? Or do you have to work 1 year under Train operator to qualify for the full rate? 

I'm glad by reading this some of you are working and seems having a good time at MTA. I'm still in the hotel and passed on the MTA conductor job, got the letter December 22nd last year to report the 24th or 23 rd. No time at all between report date and time I got the mail. 

However i think I still would've passed on it. I was out of work cause of this pandemic for 8 months. They paid us 1 month during that time. So 7 months on unemployment. 

I'm back at work thankfully. A lot of ppl in the hotel industry are losing their jobs and in the restaurants etc. So those of you who are working I'm sure are thankful. I just got my full rate today, $37.61 per hr. Put my four years in. I wish all of you well. Always curious how it would've went in the MTA. The road not taken. 

Happy holidays, all of you. 

On 11/12/2019 at 7:32 PM, Sixgvd94 said:

9 months and change

On 11/12/2019 at 11:29 PM, EgyptianEyez said:

How is that possible? I thought once you got hired and didn't passed your probation it was over. So if you get terminated and the list still active you can just jump back on the list in front of everyone or what? Plz explain if you don't mind. No disrespect but how is that fair to the ones still waiting to be called for the 1st time? 

Probation is 1 yr what kind of union agrees to that??!! That's absurd. Probation is typically 3 mos in most union jobs. I can even see max 6 mos. 

Be careful at any job where the union doesnt have procedures set up to protect its members. 

18 hours ago, Schecter said:

1) Made an error it was 231 days after school car. After that the pay is 36 an hour.

2) I'm not too sure I'm on the T/O forum as well and haven't seen 5 years, I could be wrong though.

3) I've taken the 2017 T/O exam so what Ms. Vargas and everybody else has told me was to wait after I do my probation so I have conductor to fall back on.

I'd be more than happy to answer any questions! 😁

Just checked real quick that thread out. Wow T/O start at $34 and in 1 yr get to $36. That's a good contract. Kind baffling conductors don't have something similar. 

Anyway idk why anyone would not go after T/O if that's the case. But I guess you're saying that it if you do Conductor pass the yr and then get the T/O job if you get fired. You can go back to being a conductor. 

Do you get extra points or preference for being already in MTA and taking what seems like a promotion exam? 

Do they give T/O exams ever to a just small group? Or always citywide? 

On 9/16/2019 at 7:10 AM, Schecter said:

Nah you need 261 road days until top pay.

I searched and couldn't find the specifics. If you or anyone knows the answers to my following questions, it would be appreciated. 

1.) Do you only need 261 road days. Which I'm sure most can do in a year. Because you've transferred from within mta? 

2.) If you go straight to T/O I think it said 5 years for max as well. Am I correct? 

3.) Is the internal promotion something that is done yearly, or on a need basis? 

Thanks 

14 hours ago, Schecter said:

I would say go with your hearts desire to be honest. I went for conductor and took the train operator exam as well, I'm going to do my year as a conductor and then shoot on over to train operator. Just because I can't see myself waiting 5 years for top pay as a conductor.

You still will have to wait 4 additional years for top pay as train operator no?? 

Just now, Nyctransitorhotels said:

I'm in the low1900's and still have yet to receive a go in for mecal exam letter. Said last they were up to 1764 being appointed. Called the other day. 

On 9/13/2019 at 12:40 PM, exj16 said:

I'd figured by now I'd get a Pre-employment letter in the mail. My list number is 24**. getting the right information as to where they are on the list is close to impossible 

I'm in the low1900's and still have yet to receive a pre employment letter. Said last they were up to 1764 being appointed. Called the other day. 

On 9/4/2019 at 6:48 PM, goukix said:

Call the automated info; it was just updated today 212-669-1357

I called that number just now. All they do is give you, your list number and if you are on the list. 

7 minutes ago, Schecter said:

Also to everybody coming in you'll be in the mercy of the crew office (the people who give you your schedule). They'll constantly change your shifts and your RDOs without caring at all. They'll throw you on midnights and afternoons or have you on board waiting for a job. You'll be in their hands until you get to pick a job. So get ready to have no personal life what so ever, you'll be waking up and going to sleep thinking of this job and dreaming about this job. It'll be your second wife or husband.

You working roughly 40hrs though? 

7 minutes ago, Harlem said:

Again. Thanks for your perspective. It's valid and much needed. I think the issue here is culture. You're dealing with two organizations that have completely different cultures. From what I've gathered the culture at the MTA seems to:

- Assume the employee is lazy and ignorant.

- Sees the employee as disposable with thousands of people waiting to take his job.

- Be highly punitive.

- Cares less about employee comfort and focuses on performance.

 

There may be a reason for this culture.

- Perhaps many people come on board who simply don't want to work.

- Perhaps many people can't handle a focus on performance.

- Perhaps, as someone mentioned,  there are patterns of institutional bias. 

- Perhaps that's just the way it's always been.

Whatever the reason, you just have to decide whether you want to put up with the culture of a particular organization. Your perspective helps people decide.

 

Agreed 

https://nypost.com/2019/08/08/mta-worker-secretly-kept-usps-job-in-case-he-didnt-like-new-gig/

What reason should this person be fired for?? 

9 hours ago, NUSN said:

Which one you thinking of choosing bro? MTA or Hotel? I’ve been going back and forth. 

Ima pm you. Why I'm leaning towards local 6. I haven't gotten a letter to decide yet. But that should be coming soon since I'm mid 1900's. 

It's because of pay, quality of life-bathroom breaks, switch shifts, come in later decide day before, seniority, free food-decent to good, overtime after 35hrs. Can use cell quickly almost whenever I want, back of the house. 

Ima pm you from now on if we talk about this more. I don't want to derail the thread. Just was very intrigued others in my same position. 

1 hour ago, MarkGuy said:

Yeah that point is valid. I’ve seen videos and photos of some of the conditions in transit crew rooms. One recent example is a video of the 207th st crew room having urinals right near the fridge which is f**king nasty. 

I do feel racism plays a large role; NYCT is mostly black and Spanish and they deal with such conditions that LIRR and MNRR workers (who I believe are largely white) don’t or seldom do. That aspect has to change.

Speaking of LIRR and Metro North if i was up for a job there. I wouldn't even think twice and take it. 

They can strike and their union is strong. And they get higher rate of pay and slightly better benefits. 

23 hours ago, Jchambers2120 said:

This person isn’t even in the crew rooms yet, still in training. More like a Yard/Trailer lawyer lol. 

Someone has to be crazy to let that sway their decision on a job like this, but hey there’s 30 thousand people behind you that would love your spot...

I gotta disagree here. While I understand being in time is vital especially in the beginning. People with options like everything in life weigh those options. There may be 30k +people waiting not even a third of them are getting in. 

This board member is speaking to local 6 union members and others. Our probation is 3 mos. Sick days are that sick days whenever we want to use. Our union fights for us most times. Our break room is clean and business agent would flip if it isn't. We start at 27 per hr and max out in 4 yrs at 36.75 right now. Ot  starts at 35 hrs. 

It's a tough decision for some. It's good to hear the good and the bad. To render a good decision. No need to get overly defensive. Everyone thinks differently. Respectfully I'm hoping many make the wise choice on what career to pursue. 

6 hours ago, NUSN said:

Trust me bro I’ve going back and forth thinking about it over and over but I think overall the MTA is the better career choice for me. With local 6 you have to do 40 years to get full pension with MTA is 25. I work front desk and make a lot of money and I also get tipped pretty well but I’m still going MTA. I pray to god this works out for me. At my job my managers are the worst and my GM is an Irish racist lady and I’m constantly dealing with nonsense. I’ve had previous managers tell me that she tells her management team to attack me and come after me hoping that I would slip up so they could fire me. The nonsense I deal with is crazy bro Lol. My list number is 16** I’m due to start training August 19th. 

January 1, 2019, the value of the pension credit for those still working increases immediately from $40 per credit for the first 25 years of employment (and $20 for up to 15 additional years of employment) to $60 per credit. That’s a $1,500 a month pension—a 50% increase for members who retire at age 65 with 25 years of service! And since many members work more than 25 years, the rate of the increase will often be more generous than 50%. That’s because the bonus for years of credited service past 25 has been hiked from $20 per year to $60 per year! As an example, there are quite a number of members with 40 years or more on the job who on January 1 will qualify for a pension of $2,400 per month! 

That's the new pension structure. It's definitely better than before. However it's not great. 

I hope you took a LOA just in case. I spoke to my business agent and hr dept. I've gotten a few mos LOA approved in the near future. But still back and forth if I will take the job. The drop in pay is substantial. 

However yes the pension is the only thing swaying me and we have 8 sick days I believe they have more in NYC transit. Also we have 9 holidays I think they have the same and 3 personal days. Only thing is ive heard someone say that you cant use your sick days when you want?? Which is very strange at a union job if that's true. But it is what it is. 

6 hours ago, NUSN said:

I’m in a Hotel Union. I’m at 35 an Hour bringing home over a thousand a week. I get paid weekly I’m a delegate and I’m 3rd in Seniority and I do overtime like crazy getting paid 52 an hour. It’s a tough decision to make but I really want to go with transit because in the long run it’s a better career as far as retirement and even better pay but that year probation is scary man. I’m not a reckless person or nothing like that but it’s just scary to know that I could start tomorrow and be let go the following week. 

You and I are literally the same number in seniority. Agreed there's usually tons of overtime. I typically bring home over $2100 every 2 weeks. Earned $83k last yr on base rate. Would've been $113k at max pay. I get max pay Nov next yr which will be $37+ per hr. We're fighting for more add ons and mgmt not sure if they're gonna give in but we trying to get another $2 per hr. 

So that's a huge drop in pay dude. Base pay conductor is $22.75 or something. That's almost a $13 difference and ot starts at 35 hrs for us. Unless you're a tipped employee. My uncle who's in transit says that it's a spot you have to take the promotions and put up with some bs but get yourself in the right spot and you're good. 

I was all about the pension being much better. But local 6 pension just got better but transit still better. It's a tough choice. Quality of life is another thing to consider. I'm in a hotel relaxed I don't deal with customers. I don't mind working but a lot of things to consider. Anyway good luck. 

What number are you? I'm mid 1900's. One thing I will say if everyone was as kind as this forum. That would make the decision even harder lol. 

Everyone good luck. The enthusiasm is awesome on this forum. All the support and positivity is awesome. 

On 7/30/2019 at 9:38 PM, NUSN said:

Damn that’s very discouraging for the fact that we are on probation for a year. If something goes wrong and the train operator doesn’t like you you’re basically screwed cause you have no union. Damn that sucks man. The closer I’m getting to my start date the more nervous I’m getting. I’m afraid to leave my job where I have union and seniority and I’m a delegate for a job where I could get fired just cause someone doesn’t like me. 

What union are you in? Yea I understand I'm in the union and I'm high in seniority 3 outta 13. Also top pay in 15 mos away is $37+ per hr. I'm curious about transit. But it seems like transit in the beginning isn't a union shop. Which is crazy. Probation most union shops is 3 mos max. 

There's things in my Job we all wanna change but the security the unions give is something hard to give up for a yr. Also 5 full years to get full pay is rough. 

2 hours ago, Okayyizzy said:

Anyone in the 17xx’s get a email to come back? I did my drug test a month ago and still nothing 

Be patient. There's people that took 2-3 drug tests before they did their final processing. 

50 minutes ago, RedViper90 said:

Oh, nice. I got skipped for no reason. Life huh.

Yea man sorry to hear that 

1 hour ago, Far Rock Depot said:

Before you can retire,  you have to do 25 years,  or until you're 55. Which ever comes last. 

Gotcha. What's the rate you get if you do 25 yrs? Is it 40pct rate of last yr including ot? 

42 minutes ago, Jchambers2120 said:

I’m trying to lol these damn passengers make it hard holding the doors.

 

Thank you and yeah 33 left. With that 25/55 thing under tier 6. I got hired when I was 21.  Plan on moving up as far as I can there’s a promo to atd test coming out this year and I’m (impatiently) waiting for the next promotion to train operator exam. 

What 25/55 thing?? Are you talking about the pension plan? If so please elaborate. 

6 hours ago, Far Rock Depot said:

Every list,  open competitive and promotional, is subject to the 1 in 3 rule. 

https://www.civilservicejobnyc.com/1-in-3-rule-rule-of-three/

1 hour ago, Far Rock Depot said:

I called before I wrote that post.  They told me they sent a letter I should be getting any day now. 

Hold ya head bruh. Hopefully it's all good.