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On 6/24/2019 at 2:59 PM, JHanna said:

Hey everybody name Is Jay I’m New to the forums. I’ve been reading the comments on here every once in a while trying to keep updated. My mother retired from conductor after 22 years. Father retired as well from MTA as a Supervisor In Station after 20+ yrs. 

I pretty much scored a 87.50 list # around 19k. They both told me actually I’m fine and they’ll call me. I am aware that seeing a lot of the vets retiring doesn’t play a big factor into being called sooner. Does anybody have any idea what  list number the agency is up to? Thank you God bless

Just read this. Focus on other jobs. Take tests for other places. You're parents are being optimistic. The last exam they kept the list open for 9-10yrs and they didn't get anywhere near 19k. 

I'm doubtful they will get to 10k on this list. 

5 hours ago, Far Rock Depot said:

So how it goes is,  when you start orientation/school car, you are on probation for one year. After the year,  you are no linger probationary and a civil service employee. During thst probation,  you can be terminated at their discretion basically. Nine months in I was terminated. So I had to wait for the next test,  take it all over again,  now here I am waiting for my medical/final processing email. 

One year probation is crazy. Most places that have probation that are union it's 3 months. Did the Union fight your termination?? 

MTA doesn't sound like a union shop with some of these comments ive read. 

1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

When was the last conductor exam before this one?

I think 2008. 

4 hours ago, Schecter said:

Yeah I just ordered mine this afternoon I got the rockport I hope they're comfortable 

Rockport are comfortable shoes. Just get the Dr Scholls insoles if need be. It's like $5-10 max. 

5 hours ago, NewbieCR said:

No not as far as taking the job. Prime example, I got the email after 4pm to report first thing Wednesday. Some people may not have the means to pay that suddenly. Back in the day it used to be taken out of your first or second check. Just saying for some people it may be a hold up. 

I doubt many people can't get $87 from somewhere for a job they truly want. I could see if it was hundred of dollars.  This is nyc $87 doesn't go far at all. 

3 minutes ago, NewbieCR said:

Yep at the rate they’re going, absolutely! I think paying the fingerprint fee upfront has a lot to do with it as well 

Really $87 is going to make people not take a job they truly want??!! I highly doubt it. I think it has more to do with the fact that people just have gotten other opportunities in other places of employment or just don't feel like working for MTA. 

3 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

I will say this to you. People in the lower 90’s have been called for c/r. Remember this list last 4 years with possible extension through DCAS/MTA if they want to exercise the right to extend the list plus with retirements and people not wanting the job. So, there’s still hope for those who have a 93.25, 92, 91 and 90. 

Its possible however I would not expect it past 95 and especially past 9325. If 5 years in you are still hoping for this job. I truly hope that person has looked for many other opportunities at other places as well as other MTA positions. 

1 hour ago, iag48st said:

So after my midterm and yard practical I had to be hospitalized three times. Been out until further nothice since May 2nd. Unfortunately I wasn’t able to pick up my last two checks and they tell me they were sent to bk but they don’t know exactly where. 

Does anyone know where this location is exactly? 

So u don't have direct deposit?? I would imagine they have to offer direct deposit. I haven't gotten a check in over a decade. 

4 minutes ago, Schecter said:

So dont mention anything about the misdemeanor if its sealed right or are you saying to mention it cuz I know when I went through the NYPD process they said they can see sealed records and idk if the MTA gets any information of my stuff from the NYPD since I applied for them.

I would concur with Far Rock since he says they only care about felonies. Don't mention it and if they bring it up then just be honest and say it's sealed and you though felonies were all they were interested in. 

1 hour ago, Far Rock Depot said:

Inform them of the USPS termination.  If your misdemeanor is sealed,  then its like it never happened. That what being sealed means. 

Uhhhh sometimes I'm not sure it does. However I agree don't mention it. I have a sealed not even a misdemeanor a conviction. 

Anyway my lawyer got it sealed. I went for a job with the schools as custodian engineer about 6 yrs later. They wanted to see it. I had to go to court and get the sealed record and email them the same. They gave me my license I needed but it was annoying. 

1 hour ago, Schecter said:

No but I was typing the question about what should I do when after they asked for my ID so I was like shit I'm getting a ticket and then I told them I was going for mta then they let me slide 

Ik that felt good. Cause once I got pulled over no seat belt, bus lane on the cell and the cop let me go. From one minority to another. I thought it was my lucky day went to Mohegan Sun and lost $2,700. 

Since then I've been real careful when going to casinos lol. 🤣🤣😭

2 hours ago, The Batcave said:

First off, I wanna say congratz & good luck to everyone whose been called for final processing... very exciting I know!

Next, I see some of you discussing the benefits of starting off as a CR then moving up to TO vs going straight for TO. Some have already pointed out a few of the pros/cons but I also wanted to throw in something else that should be considered- seniority. It is everything in transit. Seniority for CRs go up at a much more rapid pace than TOs bcuz people are always getting promoted, retiring or w/e. Whereas TOs generally stay TOs and for longer periods of time. In most cases, by the time you get called for TO you will have already gained seniority as a CR and are able to pick your own jobs/tours/RDOs. Some people like stability others like being XX, which is what you'll be if you give up being a conductor to go to TO. Back in schoolcar, back on probation & back on the bottom of the list. It'll be like starting your career all over again. Which is really the case for any title you move up to in TA but TO I think is one of the riskiest. So you will hear *a lot* "move up as quickly as possible." This a lot of times is why some people end up being a conductor 25-30 yrs. But some people are chasing the money and TOs do make more. So there's a lot to consider but you'll know what's right for you when the time comes and if it doesn't work out for w/e reason, you feel it's not right for you or you just don't like it- you can always go back to your old position.

 

Good and fair point. I would think though this would make some inclined to become T/O first for the same point. You pointed Out Seniority. I'm my job Seniority is king. 👍👍

2 hours ago, Schecter said:

If its 200 then itll go up to 1520s or higher because people sadly do drugs and other people just dont want the job and other people just dont care.

So the 200 they required that new 200 list hasn't been filled at all yet?? Those 200 start from the June class? 

11 minutes ago, nickynick86 said:

I think what @VIP meant was that from beginning to end the whole process takes about a few years. Considering we’ve taken the test in 2016 and also taken the OPA already we definitely are close. I’ve read that there might be two upcoming classes in June and July. If they keep up the same pace I believe maybe within the next few months we can get called. Also my list number is 18** still patiently waiting. 

I think people list number 1800 and up. Realistically have about a yr from before being appointed at minimum. That being said many have said they have taken the pre employment three times some more before they were appointed and also they took the drug test several times. Something like that. 

So I think many will take the pre employment up to 1800's in the next let's say 6 mos or so. However I think 1800's will get appointed in about a yr   

10 hours ago, nipaaaa said:

nah 96.7 goes all the way to 3k, mine is 29xx

Didnt I read you passed some signal test for T/O were you in transit and no longer? Coming back? 

1 hour ago, NUSN said:

Okay gotcha. I’m in the 1600s 

If they are up to 1320 and you are in 1600's I would believe that it's possible you are in a class or two classes after the July date. 

On 5/11/2019 at 1:10 PM, J Cooper said:

That's Amazing!

All Union jobs are like that. Anytime you're not scheduled to be there is overtime. I'm just a bit confused how the mta union isn't that present. 

3 hours ago, MarkGuy said:

I’m aware of that but I bring this up because that city request for hiring 200 conductors also included a request for 200 plus train ops. Just curious.

My name is on the requested for Conductor I'm in the low 1900's.  I saw up to 2000 I didn't wanna keep looking all says requested. 

Maybe all these people will get their first pre employment info not sure. Cause I didn't get an email nor a call. Which I'm glad for because even though I'm probably not taking the job just in case would be better later as I'm going to Colombia & Argentina Next week for 3 weeks. 

9 minutes ago, train1290 said:

If you don't mind me asking....what's your job title/position?

It reads to me that he's a bus driver. 

41 minutes ago, kellgh said:

I'll be honest: I am sure most retail employees feel the way he does. And I'm sure you will feel the way at any job. 

The average corporate worker has a lot of shit to say about their boss and is under pressure to perform. You are going to wake up hating your job somedays, and loving it on others. 

When I was an engineer, I was working 50-70 hours a week on *salary.* 

Transit comparatively was a cake walk. I blame engineering for all of my grey hairs. 100%. Terrible field, worse pay. 

 

However, I've seen your posts before: you are in a very good job position. I'd save your money where you can, invest in a CD if you want hands off investing, and just have more than enough saved for when you retire. I wouldn't leave the hotels. You aren't going to making at Transit what you make there.

 

 

 

Thanks for your opinion. Such a shame. There is such positivity on this thread. Perhaps all of you newer hires can change the culture of MTA. 

7 hours ago, Bmpo7 said:

Yeah good luck with that here at transit. If pride is that important to you, definitely don't come here. Hence why I told you before hotels is WAY better than transit life no matter the pension.

You aren't wrong to feel that way, you're absolutely correct. But here at NYCT, abuse of power is a big issue and any TSS/supt. will make your job hell if they're feeling insecure and need to feel powerful. Real shame, this job has A LOT of potential, but the culture is horrible. 

(Sidenote: most TSS are pretty cool from my experience)

Thanks for the info. 

1 hour ago, Yks747 said:

Nyctransitorhotels....I’ve seen your dilemma in past posts, but never said anything Bc I didn’t know what advice to give.  But bmpo7 post made me realize....if you want my opinion, F transit and stay where you’re at!!  That goes for anyone waiting for a transit job. I’m sure I’ll get some negative comments from people in here, but it’s my personal opinion, as an ACTIVE transit employee.  

 

I’ve been at transit for several years now and HATE it (that’s an UNDERstatement).....

 

....I’m miserable there EVERY SINGLE day and hate my life due to my job.....everyone who knows me knows I hate it, including bosses. The job sucks!  Ask my family....I take the stress home w me and hate waking up to have to do it all over again. 

 

Dealing w people’s bs piss poor attitudes ALL day/EVERY day, dirty looks, threats, getting yelled at and told how to do your job, being bitched at for EVERYthing (including being late, get used to that bs....it’s my fault traffic is a nightmare and people are slow and entitled w boarding—-it’s YOUR fault),  no respect, appreciation or gratitude....you help someone out and you don’t get a thank you....you get recorded all the time if you so much as look at them wrong....then you get called in for a complaint and management is always on the public’s side....many of which are scum. EVERYTHING is YOUR fault, per management.  You are treated like a pos all day long. 

 

Even w my years, I get LOUSY vacation, LOUSY days off, LOUSY and irregular hours.....it’s not fair for less senior workers, senior workers get everything:    Good vaction time, hours, work, pay, days off, time off...it’s not distributed in a fairer way........ good luck getting a day off, at least in my location.....you either have to be in bed w Union, bosses, or both.....sick days, haha, they’re a joke..... you don’t get them all back when you leave, even if youre a goody-two-shoes and never take a day......yet if you use a sick day, you get bs for it from management and eventually out on sick control and watched by a pos superintendent w a power trip, trying to compensate.....If you’re on the list, and you will be as a new hire, it’s favoritism.....I’ve gotten mostly bs work bc I’m not a favorite (I keep my head down and dont socialize at work, I’m quiet and reserved and keep to myself and just do what I’m given) , yet  someone w less seniority than me who’s a brown noser gets helped out and will get a better day over me.....I can’t just get a straight 8 hours from 7-3 or 8-4, like most normal Americans. I’ve worked many 10-13 hour days, every day.....finished many times at 12 at night to be back at exactly 8am. Bc all transit needs is 8 hours, they don’t give a s#@t about your commute, sleep or life. I have no time to do my errands.  And my rdos are spent doing them, not relaxing and mentally preparing for another miserable week

 

People will say, oh transit is great money, benefits , yada yada....not really. I was talking to a co worker recently who shares my views....yea you can work here and afford to drive a fancy car, but working 12-14 hours a day to have that car sit in the lot....does that make sense? Me and him like a normal 8 hour shift.....good luck getting that, at normal daytime hours, like normal working people.....the money isn’t worth it when your life is spent at a miserable job. It’s what’s referred to in this job as “blood money”.....I’d like a family one day and I do have a life outside of work, even though transit disagrees, therefore, I don’t want to spend 12+ hours a day at transit... the money is NOT worth it, at least to me, if you can’t somewhat enjoy your life....and trust me, being on the list, you will have NO life, zero, nada, zip.....me and my co worker agree....we work to live, NOT live to work, especially at this lousy job....

 

I’m sure some will give me negative replies, saying if I’m so miserable, find another job.....I wish it was so easy.....bc I would, in a heartbeat.  However, I’ve made mistakes in life...my degree is useless, I went down lousy job paths for a decade, so I may be stuck w transit bc I have no other useful skill.  I can’t afford to go back to school and start again, nor do I have the time, thanks to this bs job.  One job I really liked is low pay.  

 

Don’t follow my mistakes, I most likely will be stuck Working this miserable job the rest of my life and being a miserable person....

 

So hotelsortransit and anyone else, I recommend stay where you’re at, if you’re happy.......

 

yes, years ago I thought transit would be a “great” job too....now my blood pressure is through the roof, anxiety through the roof, stress and aggravation through the roof, back and knee pain, I’m jaded and grew to loath society and people......all from working in civil service.  

 

That’s why every day, I try to find a new career.  I had no stress or aggravation or liability when driving a truck.... the money was ok, but similar hours as transit and not a prestigious job...and good luck trying To find a girl who wants a family w a truck driver....I try to go back to finish the career path I initially started out of hs....but, bc of transits bs hours, I dont have the time....thus, I’m stuck.  This job has NO life/work balance .

 

I can’t even enjoy my vacation bc all I do is think about going back and being miserable again.  Anxiety is bad due to the job.

 

So please hotelortransit, and anyone else waiting, take it from a current employee, if you’re happy where you’re at, STAY and forget transit. Most likely, You’ll eventually turn into me after working here a year....yea some people love the job, many don’t.  Personally, IMO those who say they love it and are always in a good mood, need a psych evaluation. The liability and bs is too high.....someone else said it perfectly, the culture sucks.   just the other day I had an a**hole cut me off last second and I had to brake.....if someone claimed an”injury” (and it’s happened before), guess who gets blamed and whose mvr will have a bs ‘personal injury’ on it??.....mine. Then you get to listen to management blame you, will sitting on their high horse behind a desk all day.....again, expect no union backup, unless you’re a favorite. I got called in once on a bs complaint and had to put the boss in place myself.....the union rep didn’t say one word .

 

This job is NOT worth your mental health, or happiness in life, or physical health.   

 

Then there are those who say, well you’ll get a pension.....lol, dont make me laugh .....Rumor has it the life expectancy of a transit employee at retirement is 1-2 years max...I heard one guy retired and didn’t collect his first pension check before he died of a heart attack from the stress built up over thirty years.....is it worth working this job for 25-30 years to have a year of enjoyment in retirement? I don’t think so....why do you think I’m waiting for subways??....I’m willing to take a BIG pay cut just to try something w hopefully a little less bs, aggravation, stress and anxiety.....though from Talking to subway employees, I hear it’s no better underground.  But I’m desperate to get out and will try it if I get called. 

 

So I need to do something else w my life and fast....I’m not dying or losing my mental health for this job.....yes we, including me, do get assaulted.    You’re set w a good job, I say STAY. I envy you that you’re happy w your job.

 

i hoped I helped wake some people up. Don’t think I’m a negative person, that’s just MY reality w transit as a job. If I could go back in life , i definitely would’ve done something else w my life. I’d never recommend transit as a career for my enemies, let alone anyone else. 

 

If if you want civil service, try fire or police. I tried both....but unfortunately bc I’m not in great physical shape, I couldn’t do either....and I hate myself every day for it. Bc life would’ve been better w one of those jobs...or sanitation...but bc I’m not a NYC resident, I don’t get five extra points which hurt my rank, so even though I scored high on the test, I’ll never get called.

Thanks for all the info. I hope you find some peace and some good outta your day. 

I work 8-330pm. I'm 3 in Seniority outta 13. I have Thursday Friday off. After 35 hrs is overtime. I get free food, which is pretty good. I could've had weekends off but my gf isn't off weekends so and more ot on Thursdays and Fridays from what I've seen lately. Going to almost $32 in July and almost $38 in December 2020. 

Just that pension attracts me. And some benefits. I get 8 sick days I can take em whenever I want. Me and a few co-workers are united at work and we'll we don't let shit slide. They missed calling me the other day for an overtime shift. I checked the call log, I claimed and am getting 7 hrs overtime for free. I get 3 personal days and 2 weeks vacation. I think transit also has a few more days than those. 

My Cousin not close immediate cousin but cousin nonetheless. Has told me I'd be a fool to not take the transit job. But hes a supervisory Electrician. I feel they have more pull and less of the bs. He gets paid very well and doesn't seem to hate his job. 

I thank you very much for your insight. And no one should give you shit for speaking your truth. Please try and get some help for the way you feel. Perhaps a psychiatrist or family, friends. Life is wayyyyyy too short to feel as you do. 

12 hours ago, kellgh said:

Also, leave your attitude at home.

Don't argue with customers -- they are somewhere you are getting paid to be. (I stole that from Cardi B >_>) If they say some dumb stuff, either pretend you didn't hear it, or attempt to keep it moving. Don't even let that seep into your thoughts. They are late for work, and you are at work.

Don't argue with supervision. Some of these people power trip. Don't feed into that, and def don't talk back. Sometimes seething in silence lets you live another day. 

I get not getting mad at the customers. More should think and act like you. 

However someone who works for the same company as I, it's fine if they reprimand. However it has to be done with respect. No one yells at me nor is disresptful. 

3 hours ago, ibroketheprinter said:

I have an AT&T mobile and it clearly lays out an MTA fee in the monthly statement 

Lol I guess I gotta start looking at my bills more. 

26 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

The reality is those of us that go to and from the outerboroughs to Manhattan pay for the intermediate riders.  I believe the  noted that the intermediate riders tend to be poor and they comprise a decent amount of their ridership, so they don't want to shut those riders out, so they make up for it elsewhere.  A one way peak ticket from Riverdale to Grand Central is now $9.75, not including the $2.75 for the Hudson Raillink shuttle bus, so $12.50 versus $3.00, over four times the price... They haven't raised the intermediate cost of a ticket in years...

They should raise the intermediate a bit and lower the amount for people who pay the premium and they should look into overtime for the people who over abuse it. Let's see this contract coming up what happens.