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8 hours ago, SevenEleven said:

Here is a link to the 2012-2017 contract, the one where it became 5 years to top pay:

http://www.twulocal100.org/sites/twulocal100.org/files/finalmemorandumofunderstanding_0.pdf

If you count your first year (0-5), then yeah it's 6 years, hende why I said 5 full calendar years. When you start your 6th year, you will be at top pay. 

The last contract passed in 2017 had nothing to do with changing wage progression. 

Also the railroads are their own separate entity and they do not fall under NYC Transit and their contract. (And vice versa)

 

@Nyctransitorhotels I will ask and do some research about night diff, if it's any different. But like I mentioned in my other post, you get paid the same for working on the weekends. 

Thanks @SevenEleven appreciate the info

1 hour ago, 161 New York said:

You simply cannot beat this information OR find this information ANYWHERE ELSE folks! Extremely well written and explained. Thanks @SevenEleven

Yes . As per others though it appears to be incorrect. Max pay is either 6 or 7 years. 

Also curious how much extra is night differential and weekend differential?? 

Is it the same amount? 

On 3/3/2018 at 5:16 PM, SevenEleven said:

Pay scale for C/R is as follows:

1st year 70% of top rate ($22.14)
2nd year 75% of top rate (23.72)
3rd year 80% of top rate (25.30)
4th year 85% of top rate (26.88)
5th year 90% of top rate (28.47)
6th year 100% of top rate (31.63)

Are you certain?? I was told 7 years? 

Do you know difference in night differential, when it starts and ends?? 

Weekend pay? Holiday pay? Thanks for any info you provide. It's appreciated. 

On 2/28/2018 at 9:03 AM, MTAhopefullMatt said:

@Schecter, mistakes happen on any job.  But, yes, some conductors open the doors on the wrong side - it's a matter of not paying attention, lack of situational awareness.  And probably the biggest mistake you can make as a conductor.

Train operators have a lot more responsibility, which is why their training period is much longer and their pay rate is much higher.

@hmc12989, I don't like to see anyone lose their job or be threatened with losing their job. But safe door operation is central to what conductors do. 

From what i saw they get paid $2-$2.50 more per hour that's not a huge difference. 

21 hours ago, LIRRMedford said:

The OPA is half memory half something else, its hard to gauge cause we are the first to take it, could be looking for speech efficiency,  could be looking for accuracy, who knows

23 hours ago, TrueBlu said:

I have a question for all whom took the OPA...is English you guys first language? Do you speak English properly? I’m trying to understand Oral Proficiency Assessment.

Now I know this says OPI (same shit lol...

An Oral Proficiency Interview (OPI) is a standardized, global assessment of functional speaking ability. Taking the form of a conversation between the tester and test-taker, the test measures how well a person speaks a language by assessing their performance of a range of language tasks against specified criteria.

This could be the key to OPA

Is English your first language? It most certainly is mine. 

However like LiRR medford mentioned. The first part was memory. The second part was understanding and interpreting of different scenarios. 

2 hours ago, Mspunkybrewster said:

I honestly think the opa wasnt calculated into the scores. How can a fair list be posted while some took it and others didnt. 

No calculating OpA is pass or fail. Not cumulative. 

3 hours ago, Jchambers2120 said:

I emailed the exams unit and they told me the same thing. The results will be mailed for the OPA within the next few weeks. 

So you emailed em a few days ago or weeks ago?

6 hours ago, 123melvin said:

The letter i got said. You passed the above referenced test.  Plus it did state. Final adjusted test score 97.5. I did take the OPA in Oct.  

That's what im saying . Same here.

14 minutes ago, Bmpo7 said:

We will receive a separate letter regarding our OPA scores. 

You were specifically told this?? When were you told this date of? Who told you this?

4 hours ago, mattfutureconductor5 said:

It good but 95-99 still need about three year. Be patient.  They will keep extend the years like they did  for 8094. They adding new train so they will need  new conductor.

Anybody rode on the  yellow and blue trains? 

 

If 3 yr wait i definitely aint taking the job. In 2.5 yrs ima be max pay and making $37 per hr . Ot after 35 hrs . Easily pulling in over $110k. Not giving that up to wait 7 yrs for max pay and less money. 

On 2/21/2018 at 11:54 PM, LIRRMedford said:

Depends where in the 1000's I got 1030 and am very hopeful of being called within the first year

What did you score? I got same score as schecter 96.25 and have number 19**. 

7 minutes ago, N1CKR said:

Yeah I took that in October of last year, you figured results would be in by now. 

Is anyone certain we are getting a letter that we passed or failed that?? 

Perhaps they only sent letters out to people who passed the opa. It would be asinine imo to send a you passed letter with your number on it. Followed by perhaps a letter from Opa that you didn't pass the opa  exam 😑

I understand some people who didnt take the opa get a number however people who took the opa, should get the list number with a you passed or no number with a you didnt pass. Those who took the opa would know why they didnt pass. 

On 2/19/2018 at 2:30 PM, MTAhopefullMatt said:

@Moody, thanks for the info and link.

 

Frustrating how many people are on the list, but relieved that my score calculations were correct.

On 2/19/2018 at 2:46 PM, 123melvin said:

No considering 37,000 took the test.

Im number 19** with a 96.25 score. Im guessing you got the pass score with a number means we passed the pass or fail. 

The second part was harder imo. First part i mightve f**ked myself up by skipping then going back. If not i should've scored well. Hopefully graded with a curve. 

Ima have a hard time picking nyc transit or the hotel job. I made $75k last year. This july i earn 85% which is $29.50 per hr. Overtime starts after 35 hrs. Free meals, free lodging at 5 star worldwide properties. In 2020 i earn $37 per hr. 7 yrs to wait for max pay with NYc tranist. I get free medical. Just union dues $23 per week. Next yr i should earn $85-90k and 2020-2021 i should be earning $110-120k.  Appealing thing for Transit is pension union hotels pension is only $1,200 per mo. Thats weak. Sick days and vacation all about equal. 

Hope all of u have back up plans i only took this test and sanitation. 

On 2/14/2018 at 9:50 AM, Sank said:

If you got an accounting education, why don’t you get an accountant job?

Ik accountants with masters that are cpas that make over $120k at a desk job. Not sure why Dre is giving his qualifications. 

On 10/24/2017 at 11:25 AM, MTAhopefullMatt said:

@HeWi G, I believe starting pay will be around $22.25 starting in February 2018.

Or is it more like $22.50 per hour?

 

$24 per hour sounds like what you'd get paid upon completion of probation (1 year of service).

 

Can someone clarify? I had the TWU pay chart before but can't find it now.

 

Top pay per the new contract looks to be $31.635 per hour, but that will slowly go up as well.

And of course there are night/weekend differentials, daily OT for hours in excess of 8 per day, extra pay for flagging, etc.

My starting pay is $25 per hour. After 2 years i go up to $29.29  got 8 mos to go for that. After 4 yrs my top pay is $36.60 . We are fighting for an extra $1-$1.50 

This waiting for 6 yrs for top pay with Mta is wack but it is what it is. Night differential for me is $1.37 per hr. You know ampunt for MTA?? I know more . Also what is flagging. I also get overtime after 35 hrs and more than 9 hrs worked I get $12 extra for that day. Free meals for lunch and breakfast sometimes. Dinner if I'm still there. If it wasn't for the pension I wouldn't even consider MTA. Health insurance free albeit, dental is trash. No job is perfect but sometimes hard decisions need to be made. Anyway good luck to everyone. 

Was thinking could get in and then go to LIRR where it seems they get paid more. Went on their forum they make it seem real tough . 

5 hours ago, Jchambers2120 said:

Your question is literally answered five posts above yours. I'm not trying to single you out because you're not the only one, but can people please read the thread before they ask certain questions. Alot of the answers are there and it's a bit annoying and a slap in the face when you have people providing updates with what you want to know and people don't even bother reading. I really mean that in the nicest way possible, it just seems like we're going backwards.

 

Anyway, thanks to everyone who took their exam yesterday and gave an update. That 6-8 month timeline works out perfectly for me. I'm really eager to get our results for the OPA back. Hopefully that doesn't take 6-8 months, but I won't hold my breath. 

While I agree he is being repetitive. If he did in fact get only 3 wrong and no letter. I would go to information center and explain he is aware everyone who got 3 wrong or less has received a letter to take the opa. 

Maybe a mistake was made or maybe he got more than 3 wrong. If only 2,200 or so got letters and he didn't other letters may not go out til next year. Maybe he isn't even on that list. If i were him I would be proactive. Just be nice and patient when going there. Explain you truly want the job. 

2 hours ago, HeWi G said:

Took the Opa today 730 am session. In my opinion I don't see how anyone can fail this. Pay attention, absorb the information given, don't over think it. As far as the 2nd part of it keep it simple, short and to the point with your answers and you will pass with flying colors. Based on many responses that I heard from people there as to when the list will be established and when we will get our scores I'm pretty sure it will be another 6 months or so to get our scores and list numbers so I'm thinking before any of us actually get on the job it'll probably be close to a year.

The first part was easy but the second part some of the questions were up in the air . As far as if you answered it correctly. No one knows exactly what they wanted to hear. It is what it is. First got maybe 2- 3 wrong and that's mainly because I wasn't super focused on second set of questions in the first part I was still thinking if I got 1 wrong in first smh. So 2-3 could've been 1 or 2 wrong . 

If I get the job definitely tough decision to make as next yr my rate goes up to 29.50-30.70 per hour and my max at my job is 36.65-37.85 in 2020 . As opposed to waiting for top pay in 2024 and $3 or so less. Plus my ot starts at 35 hrs. I wouldn't even consider leaving if it wasn't for MTA pension. I get free insurance, free lunch .  Free hotel rooms at  5 star hotels. Those are tough to get though. Mta has better dental and better pension. 

Whatever I guess a good problem to have. Good luck to everyone. 

How long does it take to get to max pay is it on the 7th yr? and You start at 70pct?  Please someone give breakdown . I think I had info and lost it . 

16 hours ago, TCKAS71P said:

Just took the OPA (Don't forget the $25 money order).

First part is easy.. just listening to the audio conversation between the conductor and dispatcher then answering questions.

Second part varies for each person. Personally, I found it difficult to make the "right" judgment for each scenario depicted in the pictures.

Good Luck to everyone else taking it.

Took the opa test today. Got there 7:05 test @ 730. Test didn't start til 8:10 approximately. They let people up around 730. They had to collect everyone's info, take pic, etc. Test was done around 9am. Very strict procedures on taking test. Anyhow 1st part was easy . Probably got 3-4 wrong. 

Had to wait til around 9:50 til they started calling people for second test. I was number 4 thankfully. Felt bad for people who were late 20's - early 30's . I was done before 10:15am. So about 2hrs for me it took since the start of the first part. The second part i concur, was more difficult than I thought, as far as what answer they wanted to hear. Hopefully I did well. Anyway i asked the people in the second part. She said in 6-8 mos I will be called in to start the hiring process provided I passed and everyone that takes the test will get a score. Now maybe I misunderstood or she misspoke. Cause the lady in the first part said downstairs they have our test results for first part. Went to info desk and lady said no test results available yet. List hasn't been established. 

Anyhow something will begin in 6-8 mos from around now. 

1 hour ago, Sank said:

I pulled out the 3 piece 

I myself think i will go with the tuxedo and 🎩 the classic 730am look 😁

To everyone worrying. Don't worry on what you can't control. You did your best. 

4 minutes ago, Dred said:

Wow, the memory test was really difficult, I'll just say that. If they score it by 75% pass I could have failed it, I had to guess at least 25% of the time.

The speaking test didn't seem as difficult but not sure what they were looking for.

Still shocked how difficult the memory test was. 

 

 

Think ima eat plenty of blueberries and maybe a few days earlier play some memory games. Thanks for the info. 

2 hours ago, DrewMania said:

To be honest i’m in a similar position. I work for UPS as a driver i just started making top pay which is 35 dollars a hour for a 27 year old is a blessing but in my case i’ve aways wanted to work for MTA. And now that i’m getting closer to that goal i’m going to take the MTA job over UPS. I’m going to take a leave of absence just in case. But yea it’s a pay cut for a few years but i’m set up to make that transition.

I think right now you have to ask yourself is it something you really wanna do. Because if this wasn’t a goal of mines then I wouldn’t even be on this forum. 

Then ask yourself can you survive a few years before you even reach back where you was when you left the hotel job. Because to be honest the kind of money your making now you can go set up a nice retirement fund from TD bank and that penision you get from the hotel won’t matter cause you got plently saved away for a honest living.  

Wow you're willing to take an almost $14 per hour pay cut?? For a few years??!!

Makes me not feel as bad. What may i ask makes you want to work for MTA so much?

On 9/20/2017 at 5:43 PM, Dave2836 said:

You'll be taking a pay cut. Track workers make $33.1025 @ top pay in February 16, 2018. Conductors will make $31.6350 @ top pay.

 

Track workers can be trained into specialist titles and get paid $36.25.

 

Conductors have 3 promotional paths: Train Operator, Tower Operator, Asst Train Dispatcher.

 

This is only an abbreviated summary.

Great info. My Cousin who is an electrician supervisor in MTA thinks top pay is in 3 years. He's been in MTA over 15 years. So he i think is off. Is it 7 years for top pay??!! If so do you know the percentage it goes up year after year?? 

Also what is the top pay for Train operator, tower operator,assistant dispatcher?? 

I'm on ot now at my job making $39 per hour as i type this on ot. And next July will make $47.64 with ot after 35 hrs. I just dont get a good pension nor as many vacation days. Anf only 8 sick days. 

Very curious what route to take.