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On 3/6/2019 at 2:32 AM, Bmpo7 said:

While in probation, you get 1 day per month. After 1 year, its 12 days per year. 

As for using them, yes you can use them whenever you want. However, they are strict and will observe any funny pattern. So say for instance, as you said, calling out sick on a snow storm day. Or calling out sick on Super Bowl Sunday. Or calling out sick the day after your weekend. They will pay attention to when you're calling out and how often. If they feel you are abusing, they will put you on Sick Control. That's when you need to always bring in doctors lines, and are subject to them coming to your house to check you.

So I guess you can't use them when you want!! 

Are you on probation for one year??!! How is the presence of TWU in MTA? 

On 3/4/2019 at 5:15 AM, Bmpo7 said:

Well there's ALWAYS public transportation, unless there's extreme circumstances. In that case, you MUST give your MAX effort to report to your nearest terminal or bus depot. So lets say you take the 3 train out of New Lots to get to work, you must get to the New Lots dispatcher, call the crew office and let them know there are no 3 trains running. Again, thats assuming an extreme circumstance in which there are no buses, no railroads, etc. You can't just stay home and make the excuse. You must report to work. 

Also, there are sometimes light trains that are picking up employees.

The 12 sick days you have. You get that after probation? Are you able to use them whenever you like. For example a bad weather storm. 

I get 8 sick days however I can use them whenever I choose any time 3 days or more a doctors note is needed. 

6 hours ago, Bmpo7 said:

Oh yeah well at $95k definitely. I'm just saying for regular folks, who are 30 or under, making $30k-$60k, definitely take transit for the pension and growth opportunities. I don't encourage anybody making big money to leave their job unless they are miserable or have no security.

Who can afford to live in nyc on anything under than $45k per yr?? Unless living with parents and who 30 yrs old at that?? 

On 2/27/2019 at 7:13 PM, Bmpo7 said:

Feels like the opposite. If you're young, the pension should be the reason why you take the job. Coming to transit to do 10 years and out isnt worth it, not if you make a good salary. Its only worth it if you can do the 25 years.

I disagree. You see if you make good money and have a good job at 26 and are making let's say $95k and earn more the next few yrs. And you can make more each year at that job than you would make at MTA I feel like you're better off at that job. Your earning potential for age 26-66 would serve you better you can save that money if you earn more. 

3 hours ago, peacemak3r said:

Got a random call today, about passing OPA...thought I'd get a letter instead of a call. Either way, don't think I'll be going through the process if I get the real call. Landed a pretty solid spot and I'll be taking a severe pay cut if I took the conductor position instead. Even with MTA pension, I don't think it's worth it to be honest.

 

Good luck to everyone else though!

That's great!! If you're young enough the pension shouldn't be a make or break in decision making. I made $81k last year on base salary. With a somehwhat life lol. Should be making $95k or so this yr. However my job is crying broke. Jobs pension just got better but MTA pension still better. Leaning towards staying where I'm at. May go to PE when it happens and ask several questions in person. 

Anyhow great for all of you making moves. 

On 2/9/2019 at 2:36 PM, Schecter said:

Yeah I feel as long as they keep calling you back then most likely they're considering you, but I feel like they're going to through the list numbers fast because not a lot of people can keep going to pre employments because they either have a job with the mta cant keep missing days or they have other jobs which could fire them from taking days off. Oh yeah and PS people stop wearing fit its and hats inside the building unless you want the security guard lady yelling at you. People came dressed unproffesionally yesterday with jordans and sweats it looks really bad trust me.

Maybe they didn't read the letter carefully. I'm trying to recall I think for the test and opa I wore a fitted both times. Almost everyone was dressed down those days. 

On 2/8/2019 at 9:04 AM, Yks747 said:

So who else wasted ANOTHER day this week for conductor pre employment ?  It was my THIRD and I’m very aggravated, bc I didn’t get to do the drug screen....so my time, money for parking, gas and tolls was for NOTHING.

I’m sure some people share my frustration,  and then some will say “if you want the job bad enough, it’s part of the process”....no, it’s not. Bc how much more dedicated can I be? I am a CURRENT employee....which means it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get a day off in Transit and it is very hard to get a change of assignment (if you get hired into the MTA, you’ll see)....so you can’t say “if you want it bad enough”....bc I finished work, for the authority, at 1230 the night before....sleep at 2am , to be up for the THIRD pre employment at 5am, to get in line early to hopefully be done early (which, btw, showing up early is useless in order to finish early).....to sit for almost seven hours, to not get to pee, bc I had to leave to go to WORK at 3, to 130am.....so, a 22 hour day on three hours sleep, for NOTHING...and I shouldn’t be mad???

 I did all I could, and the lab has to be closed for HOURS. Really?!?!  On top of that I’m tired of filling out the SAME application over and over....so I photocopied it, which isnt good enough for them (mind you, the PRE employment application, NOT the official one—and NOTHING has changed since my last one).....so learn from my mistake, don’t give a photocopy of your application.

So my time and money was for nothing bc I had to leave to do my responsibility and do the right thing, and be at WORK ON TIME...and now I’m off the list for this class. Totally unacceptable!!!!  For those in similar circumstances, I’m very sorry, I know how you feel. 

When i went for a Police Officer position, to carry a gun and arrest people, the process was not as much bs as for this low paying condoctor job. 

Good luck to those who have to ability to spend numerous days, all day, waiting, doing the same thing.

For those on their second, third, etc PRE employment, they should be in and out, and not take people who are there for the first time first.  No excuses to waste all day....it takes five minutes to take a piss test . Obvs I can pass mine .

Also....it clearly states on the letter to be in BUSINESS CASUAL, NO JEANS, or you will be sent home. Maybe I’m old fashioned, but I find it offensive when I see countless people in jeans and tee shirts for a job interview.....why were they not sent home , as the letter states??? How is that fair to people like me, who change their long work schedules, show up early and dress professionally???  Trust me, if you show up to the steps for the hiring process of police officer dressed like that (minus the agility), they WILL send you home....I’ve seen it. The MTA should do what they say they will...that would weed out the wait, and be fair to those of us who read and follow directions 

This is exactly, 💯percent how I felt when reading all the times I've seen people going for hours to go again and again and again. 

Seems like this list is managed poorly when it comes to appointing people. By making them take the drug test and physical repeatedly along with the rest of the pre employment paperwork. Fact is one day i understand. Perhaps a second day half the time. However a 7+ hour day is unacceptable to wait along and then have to do that a few more times smh. 

I have empathy for your unfortunate mismanagement of your time by the hiring process for conductors. 

17 hours ago, BigCountry said:

 

It's very important for you guys keep fighting for this job.... Yes, I said fighting for this job as in battling these hardships of taking time off to come to these PE's/DT's. This is another way of how they get from 898 to 1041 to fill a class of 60 so fast........some people just give up or in between get called from another list of a test they've taken and take that offer instead. Candidates get weeded out. If you guys are getting these PE's/DT's means you're getting close and your time will come. I took 3 PE's/DT's before finally getting into Schoolcar. 

The funny or cool thing about this is your perseverance will pay off and if you've notice at these PE's/DT's , you see the same faces going every time you do too......some of these people will be your classmates and more importantly your sub-classmates and you will be joking about this in Schoolcar.......So!......to kill some time....you know....waiting.....and waiting...and waiting some more when your at 180 Livingston....get a head start of meeting and knowing them...... you will be joking about this in Schoolcar too......

I don't know if they just give up. Some people have to decide if this is the right job for them. Sometimes they decide no. Sometimes they're better off where they are or another civil service job calls em. 

In any case thanks to all of you on all your info. 

9 hours ago, SevenEleven said:

 

You get a sick day each month for your first year, then you get bumped up to 32, when you finish probation. After that, you get 12 days every May 1st. 

There's nothing wrong with taking days or running out if you are legit sick or unable to work. But if you're banging out because the sky is blue and/or you establish a pattern of banging out, then it'll be a problem. 

12.a year is legit. 32? I think that was a typo. So 12 each year? 

That's official. I get 8 at my job. 

10 hours ago, Far Rock Depot said:

In a way,  this is how transit sees how bad you want this job.  Going thru the whole process of pre employment,  medical and final processing is kind of like their interview process since when you pass everything,  you pretty much get the job. And given what you'll be going thru on the job,  they wanna see your availability.   This isn't like any other job.  When they will need you,  you need to be there.  Perfect example, when a major snow storm hits,  and everything including the subway shuts down,  you STILL need to report!  And not only on-time but at times even earlier.  If you can't do that just to get the job,  they will see it as well not only do you must not really want this job,  you are someone they can rely on.  And with this job,  you NEED to be reliable. 

I get the being at the job on time and even when snow storms occur however they as well as every job should value my time and everyone else's. You don't get time back. 

Curious how many sick days do you get and if they run out and you take some is that a problem?? Lateness has to be strictly enforced too? 

Lastly is your union strong?? Thanks for all your responses and everyone here who helps. 

I wish all of you nothing but the best of luck. 

On 1/29/2019 at 7:52 PM, Jchambers2120 said:

I feel the same way you do at times, especially since I live in Brooklyn and got forced into the A division and the crew office seems hell bent on placing me on the damn line 3-4 days a week, but then I remember why I took this job and I just suck it up and keep it pushing. The only thing I miss about school car is road ops and the guaranteed 1 hour lunch breaks lol I love the road.

 

That question is kind of vague. "Easy" depends. The toughest part for me is dealing with the public. It can be very stressful at times especially when the road blows up and you have people yelling at you as if it's your fault when the situation is completely out of your control or dealing with some of the characters in the RCC. That and dealing with our lovely crew office. 

It isn't a bad job at all though every job has bs that comes with it. I've had days where i literally got paid to sit around and do nothing for 8 hours, or doing 1 trip or a trip and a half and being on the train for 1:45 mins tops out of an 8 hour day.

I'm just using this as a stepping stone to becoming a T/O since i didn't meet the requirements for that title, but overall i love putting on my uniform and going to work.

Check your inbox please. 

17 hours ago, Yks747 said:

So they’re at list #1041. I get canvassed to come back for a PE for the THIRD time. It’s a little ridiculous now to keep filling out the SAME paperwork. Plus to keep my fellow candidates who are coming back for the 2nd-3rd times ALL day while taking other first timers before us is unacceptable. We should be in and out.  I have a job and it is very difficult to get my times changed.

 

I’m in the mid 1300s....even if there is a class at the end of Fed, there is NO way Transit is going to hire approx 300 people to reach me and others in the similar list range. Why is Transit wasting our time, and is it even worth it to waste ANOTHER day to not get hired again?  I understand it’s the process...but come on....three tims already! They don’t need to canvass so many people when they know how many they’re going to hire. We do have jobs now and it’s not fair to take that kind of time from us AGAIN, to not hire us AGAIN. 

Great post. I said that earlier transit should value everyones time. To have you keep filling out paperwork when you won't be called makes no sense and is a disregard for your time. 

Just now, Ayesha said:

This will be my third pre employment appointment on 2/1. My last one was on 11/27 less than 90 days ago.  I spoke to Ms. Ohla today and there will be a 2/25 class. The last list number appointed was 1041. My number is 11** I hope I’m in this class. Good luck peeps!!

You can't skip the first pe appt since it appears you get multiple apps? Perhaps I can call them. You have her or Ms  Vargas' number? 

5 minutes ago, Janelleeac said:

Whoever was asking if probies get overtime ... u do ... ive been out for about 5 months and guess who just did a 15.5 hour day.... 😁

Out 5 mos? Started 5 mos ago or out on leave for 5 mos? Max is 16 hrs right? I did a 19 or 19.5 day last year and an 18 hr once or twice at the hotel. 

The whole take multiple pre employment dates seems bad planned out. 

They should value our time. I understand once doing it and drug test 3 mos before start or sooner. 

6 hours ago, Bmpo7 said:

I think you should stay put. Invest the difference in pay into a 401k (if it's offered at your job) or a roth IRA (if your job doesn't offer 401k). I say this assuming your current quality of life now is much better than it will be at transit for the 1st few years.

My job actually offers 401k matches max 4%. However if hoy accept the pension you can't get the matching 401k. 

So I do have an IRA Roth acct I set up last tax season. 

18 minutes ago, Far Rock Depot said:

On the contrary,  quite the opposite.  The 16 hour a day limit and only working one out of two days off is across the board.  It's actually law. And given that you'll Br all over the system,  youll actually be making good money since everyday will be different. If you pick a job for six months-the length of one "pick" and pick nothing but 8 hour jobs,  that's what you'll be getting barring any delays that may have you clear late where as an extra extra,  you could get an 8 hour job one day,  a penaty job(more than 8 with OT built in)  the next,  then the day after can be on board for 7 hours then pick up a full 8 hour job that turns your 7 hours on board into OT.  

OK here's my dilemma and ima go to the pre employment most probably when it's my turn. I'm at this moment earning $30.40 per hr as of July I go up to almost $32 per hr. Conductor starts at $22.50 or so. Overtime for me is after 35 hrs night time differential is $1.50 more from 8am-6am. I get free food at work. Decent food actually. Health insurance covered by union dues of $50 per biweekly paycheck. Last yr at $26.75 until late December and $26 until July I earned at base rate $81,500. If I would've been at max rate which I get Dec 2020 or if I leave and go to another Hotel property now my rate will be $37.70 or so. 

The only however big reason for me to join Mta is their pension my unions pension is trash at $1250 per mo after 20 yrs I believe. 

I have a tough decision to make. Anyway if I was to stay on the same pace as last yr at my rate I would earn around $93k. 

Can I make at least $75k per yr first yr while having somewhat of a life. I can't really afford my costs if earn less than $75k. 

Thanks Farrock I think we've spoken before. 

22 hours ago, adorkasherri said:

You're limited to working 16 hours max a day I believe, and only 1 of your 2 days off a week.

Great questions and answers. Ver informative. So first few years sounds like not that much money available. 

On 1/9/2019 at 2:24 AM, V6viii said:

Sooo I took my opa exam in May of 2018 how come I haven’t heard any thing yet my list number is 33##

You're about 3xs away from the number they are up to. It's gonna take some time. Relax and check this forum for updates where they are up to. 

On 1/3/2019 at 12:08 PM, jaison said:

Hey My list number is  also in the 26xx .There is no time frame.I too have not received calls for any medical,drug test...........optimistic

 

Going with how the numbers are moving. I'm guessing perhaps spring or summer of 2020. Just being realistic. In the meantime keep doing your thing. Wherever you work or apply for other jobs. 

On 1/3/2019 at 12:08 PM, jaison said:

Hey My list number is  also in the 26xx .There is no time frame.I too have not received calls for any medical,drug test...........optimistic

 

Going with how the numbers are moving. I'm guessing perhaps spring or summer of 2020. Just being realistic. In the meantime keep doing your thing. Wherever you work or apply for other jobs. 

On 11/25/2018 at 11:52 AM, Bmpo7 said:

Yeah also consider quality of life. Quality of life sucks here at transit (just an opinion).

Yea I've thought this as well. I will decide when the time comes. Thanks for your opinion. 

On 11/7/2018 at 12:37 AM, Bmpo7 said:

It's after 5 years. I have to ask: why you leaving your job? Hotel seems pretty secured no?

Mta pension is the only thing that has me intrigued. Pension for hotel job is $1,200 per mo after 20yrs contributing. That's weak. I can probably make more at the hotel. Also medical is free. Union dues about $100 per month. 

Ambience is better than being in a subway all day. It's gonna be a hard decision. Mta job as long as you don't do dumb ish is pretty secure. 

On 11/5/2018 at 6:11 PM, Bmpo7 said:

22.14/hr starting pay, 31.63 after 5 years. 

Isn't it top pay after 6 yrs? On your 7th year? 

Cause after 5 full years make me reconsider perhaps going for it. My raise coming next month at the hotel I'm going up to $30.50 ot after 35 hrs. On base salary I'm on pace for 83,500. At full salary I would be on pace for $112k or so. With my new bump in raise, next year on same pace I would've earned $95,00. 

On 8/15/2018 at 10:31 PM, Jchambers2120 said:

Today was a bit frustrating. I wish trainers would actually take students because they actually want to teach/help them, not just for the extra 2 hours of OT. Thie guy I had today basically only watched me for my first 3-4 stops and once he saw that I knew what I was doing he let me operate two trips for the most part without saying anything and didn't even pay attention to me he just looked at thr other side od the cab,  or if he did it was basically criticizing me for doing what's taught in school car like the sweep, or "taking too long" during my platform observation. Smh.

I hope to have more trainers like the guy I posted with on the 6 yesterday he was awesome. We pingponged stops and he kept talking throughout the 3 trips we did giving me pointers.

If you don't want to teach then don't take students, don't act like you're on a mini vaca and let me work your job.

Overtime is how people make real money in Union jobs it doesnt surprise me he did what he did . 

Im on pace for $90k this yr at the hotel and my base pay is less than $50k. Ot $ starts ăfter 35hrs for me. Ive slowed down now. But before ot for anything lol.