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14 minutes ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

All these artics being ordered, but they still somehow manage to maintain an all standard fleet during snowstorms. I don't get it. What's gonna happen when there's more artics than standards? 

Most people don’t travel as much during snowstorms. So I’d assume they would be able to manage a bit. Besides the Bronx is artic land and they managed with artics for years.

11 minutes ago, RailRunRob said:

Again not to sound like a jerk just from my experience there layers data also has to fit into operating budgets. Driver salary, fuel cost ,maintenance all things to have be factored in. Now with that said this is a draft and im sure the design team was also instructed to save were ever they can on route expenditures while meeting certain guildines maybe coverage etc I dont know for sure. But from an agency standpoint Byford gets a budget And just like the private sector they're going to try to cut some corners. Has learned from the Bronx in Staten Island express bus redesign the publics going I have to come out and Politicians raise their voice. As to why they're ignoring travel time and transfers for trip Completion? Whatever system they have set up under their guidelines they feel like it's acceptable. Running more buses on the feeder lines etc etc. Happened in CO-OP and it didnt stick. The public needs to give feed back. 

You can't tell some of these people that on here. To them it has to be their way or the highway. The MTA is a public agency and it has to take the public to make sure the MTA delivers as good as they are supposed to. We as new yorkers take our public transit for granted and its quite sad. Out of all the places in the U.S. we have one of the best, is it perfect? no but its much better than in other places. From the look of the map there is a whole new system that NYC hasn't had before. I'm sure if the communities put their voices where its heard they will work to make it better, look what happened with the Bronx redesign with Co-op city. The community lost their mind and they put those buses back on the map for that area.  

5 minutes ago, Union Tpke said:

Time to analyze the QT37

First, I cannot tell whether service is cut by an hour from 6 to 5 since Remix doesn't show separate times between the directions. Great job idiots! The biggest red flag for me is the runtime. They have QT37 buses running between Kew Gardens and South Ozone Park, on a more direct route, taking 63 minutes instead of the current 32.

- Currently, buses run every 5-6 minutes from 5:50 to 8:30; now they will run every 10 minutes. After 8:45 buses will run INSANE 24 minute headways. Buses currently run every 8-10 minutes until 9:25, and then every 15-20 minutes afterwards.

- The worst cut: buses will stop running at 10 PM, instead of at 1:30 AM, a 3.5 hour span reduction. On Saturday, buses will stop at 9:15 instead of 1:30, a 4.25 hour span reduction, and on Sunday, buses will stop at 9:30 instead of 1:30, a 4 hour span reduction.

The MTA really wants to further reduce bus service. There is no other explanation. I know there are good people who worked on this plan, but they have to realize what they are doing. They are going to make it faster to walk than take the bus in most of the borough because of how far spaced out stops are, how infrequent service will be, reduced spans of service, and the need to make 3 or 4 transfers to just get to the subway, where they will now have to stand for 30-40 minutes. This is criminal and nobody will care because the people who will be hurt have lower-incomes than subway riders and people like Pat Foye who drives to get everywhere, and because the people that will be hurt are the people who do not have the time to attend these meetings.

This is despicable.

 

I’m just generalizing here but it seems like most of peopel have issue with the headway’s mostly. I think in a way since these routes are basically done from scratch there’s no telling how much will people ride the routes at first so it would be kind of throwing something into a blender. Plus some of these routes serve different types of service patters. So maybe a traditional route would need like say a 10 minute headway but on these newer routes they would need maybe 15 because of how quicker it’s gonna be. That’s just my take on it. 

3 minutes ago, Union Tpke said:

 

The thing is, there is no reason to needlessly confuse people. For most routes, a majority of it consists of an old route. For instance, either have the QT14 be the Q10 or Q64. Have the QT17 be the Q12. The QT38 is almost the same as the Q2. The QT40 could be the Q4. The QT16 the Q25 or Q34.

The goal should be to confuse people as little as possible.

I think that’s true. The numbering is quite confusing.

28 minutes ago, LTA1992 said:

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.

On that note, stop spacing is perfect. That's the beauty of a total rewrite of the network.

Service Levels (going off stop spacing):

SBS/Super Rapid

Rapid

Limited

Local

My only gripe? The minimum all-day headway should be 15 minutes on all routes during weekdays and 20 on weekends. If people are always seeing a bus, they will eventually take the bus. The new Brooklyn-Queens routes should definitely see a consistent 10 or less all day policy.

I expect them to be popular.

Especially if (hopefully when) this system gets all the necessary improvements to make service reliable.

This new plan, for someone who has lived in Queens (involuntarily but necessary), would make Queens a desirable place for me to live.

I'll see y'all at the Ridgewood Open House lol

I can’t speak on queens too much as I don’t live there, but bring how queens had overlapping buses because they had the most private and public buses I could really see them condensing the system and or starting a new.

i think the headway’s or wait times are a bit ehh.

I think it’s important to look at these bus routes in the color codes to the type of service they are. It seems like the colors indicate services that are local,  a limited variant, a non stop end to the subway, and an sbs form of route. I feel like everyone is looking at these routes like a traditional bus map but it seems like Queens is quite an experiment with service.  

27 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

They are "studying" a seasonal variant that would run to Jacob Riis Park, similar to the current Q53.

Oh okay. 

Surprised they cut the Q53. I wonder why though? Was it not getting its service it needed from that portion of Far Rockaway? Also I see they are straightening out the Q58 with its routing. I wonder where is the B15 going to go now since its being replaced by the Q5? 

29 minutes ago, Kamen Rider said:

Two geeks enter... one geek leaves.

Two geeks enter... One geek leaves

Thing that pisses me off about this sub forum is that how pretentious some people are on here. They feel like they know what’s best for everyone here because they fan ride buses. You don’t know how many times up times someone on here proposes something everyone hypes it up and when the MTA does something akin to that in real life everyone loses their shit. 
 

they don’t care about what’s being done, only who is delivering it. 

3 minutes ago, Cait Sith said:

Nope...

Sorry corrected. 

33 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said:

4454 running on the B44-SBS. Might be a extra. 

Probably cause it’s the holiday season, low passenger service. 

20 minutes ago, Flatbush SBS Duece said:

Alrighty Folks I got some Flatbush Depot news:

This morning I was one of the first Articulated buses to operate on the SBS46 from Kings Plaza to DeKalb Ave. It was a full passenger service test and expect buses to be out on the road during AM rush hour and PM rush hour only for the time being. Management wanted more buses out on the road but the union wanted only 3 buses out for the time being.
 

 

Time being meaning before New Years? 

10 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said:

I think it was mentioned somewhere that the line is going to be fully artic. Hence most of the JFK and LGA buses coming in. 

To the correction FB has exactly 60 artics. 
You will notice a small edit on your previous post. 

Okay, noted. 

9 minutes ago, Snorunts said:

Yessiree.

FB has now over 60 artics. So does this mean the B46 sbs will be going artic full time? 

4 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said:

I just got an MTA email that Queens limited buses will not run on Mon or Tues, and all other queens buses run on a "holiday schedule." WTF does that mean?

 

I am still working Mon and Tues, and need the express bus. Anyone know if these have a special holiday schedule?? I don't really want to have to play aroundw with the shitty trip planner tool.@Via Garibaldi 8

I didn't know i had such amazing powers!!! lol. People do still work regular hours on those days. They should adjusted routes to run on a different time than to not have them run at all to reflect those who are still here for the holidays. 

I think the MTA should think about adjusting schedules during the holidays. When school is out and some people are on vacation buses are running over schedule because it was supposed to reflect normal passenger service. I think during when school is out schedules should be adjusted until after the new year. 

Hard to believe all of these are now in local service. 

13 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said:

If Siri can pronounce most words reasonably well, the MTA can do better. Even in the subway station announcements, where they splice together individual words/phrases, it sounds a lot better than the buses. Some of the errors are likely easily fixed with minor changes, like the Q46 to "LEEEJJ hospital" probably just needs to be programmed as L. I. J. rather than LIJ so the system announces them as individual letters rather than a single word

Siri is very, very, very different from what the mta has. On top you’re talking about Apple vs a transit company. It’s like comparing apples to oranges.

2 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

This really has nothing to do with any of what you're saying.  My original point was about dragging the line and sitting at stops. No one was confused about payment.  The driver just kept sitting and driving slow at every stop.  If he's that early just sit and one stop and go from there.  Dragging the line with no traffic in sight.

But that most likely have to do with his management and consequences he may face. He could have sat at one bus stop and then went on, sat at every stop for a minute or two, or put the bus out of service until it was time for him or her to move again. They’re not driving slow to do it just to do it.

3 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

Use a route? You mean too lazy to READ what is shown at the ticket machines.  That's the real problem. As I said consistency would be great.  The whole point of SBS is to keep the buses moving as quickly as possible, which includes how long buses sit at stops, otherwise there's no point.  If the M14 ran once every 30 minutes like the M34 does at times, I could understand it, but the M14 runs often times two buses back-to-back. No point in having a bus sit around for  a line with buses every few minutes.

Majority of people are used to dipping their metrocards on the bus not a machine. Some people don’t read but others are in a rush. They won’t notice that the M14 is a different bus from the usual besides the color on them. It even happens on other sbs routes. Sbs buses aren’t going to always go lighting fast, it happens time to time.

6 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

Clearly you have a reading problem.  What I said was I heard that SBS drivers were told to keep moving and not sit at stops and that I would like to see some consistency, so my point was if they are supposed to hold at stops because they are early fine, but stick with one policy.  This comment is ONLY for SBS drivers. I know the policy for other lines.   Some drivers keep it moving and don't wait. Others will hold at every stop like the guy I had. The whole point of SBS is to keep the bus moving, or at least that was my understanding. 

Some routes wait for people for their tickets, especially new sbs routes where people are still getting used to the system. It happened on the sbs routes in my area. Drivers may be told to not wait for people but if people aren’t too versed in how to use a route that is still fairly new it’s falls on the drivers to tell riders what to do, that even means waiting for them. I take the B82 sbs and even after a year of its launch drivers still wait and tell people that they have to pay at the machine for their tickets. 

Courtesy isn’t always a written rule. 

14 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

I had one on the M14SBS a few weekends ago. Figured I'd try it out again since the City, the DOT and the have been RAVING about it.  Got on at 6th and 14th. Only had to go to 3rd and 14th and was going to just get in an Uber from there since they have so many restrictions now in terms of cars using 14th Street. Well we made every effin stop and sat and sat.  After we got past Union Square, I got off and just walked the rest of the way and got an Uber from there.  

So buses are slow due to being stuck in traffic, the city decides to actually make a bus way which restrict cars on 14th street, a bus you were on is slow because it sat at a bus stop due to it being over on time. If the argument is to adjust the schedules so buses can not sit in the bus stop then I understand but if a driver is a ahead of schedule you can’t blame them for not wanting to get in trouble. 

8 minutes ago, NY1635 said:

It's simple: The MTA wants to consolidate all the routes in Queens and scrub the private bus line history away. 

Queens is difficult because a lot of the current routes used to belong the Green Bus Lines, Queens Surface, Jamaica Bus Lines, and Triboro Coach.

Consolidate routes and rework the system to reflect a grid like one, yes, to get rid of the old private bus route history isn’t the case at all. If anything judging from the rough, rough, photo we got it seems like they’re reworking some private bus routes to cover more areas. 

6 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Wait so the Q10 branches are being split? What in the world are they doing!?

 

Yup, were screwed.

How is that two branches of one route being split is being screwed? If some people need one branch then they’ll make a route just for they one branch.

4 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

It’s still not perfect. We have gaps in service at Fort Hamilton Pkwy, 13th/14th Avenues, Clarkson Avenue, Empire Blvd, Ocean Avenue, and other places. These places should’ve had bus service a long time ago.

I think south west Brooklyn would see a drastic change.