GreatOne2k

Some trains already run N/B express during the AM to 57 St

Getting rid of the (except late night) means splitting the up into 3 branches all day. Lefferts NIMBYs would put up with reduced service in order to keep their express though. Howard Beach [JFK] and the Casino however would get increased service.

BxM4 is closer (and more direct) to Yonkers Raceway than BxM11 and service on the BxM4 will not need to be split up, or take longer detours from its regular route (not deadhead) like the BxM11 would. Get that through your head. If according to you "sending any Bxm bus to anywhere in westchester county is moronic as people won't use em to go there" than you have just admitted that your BxM11 to Yonkers proposal is moronic (which it really is). Even bringing back the BxM4 super express (if needed) would be better than the BxM11 going to Woodlawn/Yonkers. Why send only SOME BxM11 buses to Yonkers when you can send ALL of the BxM4 buses (which have much more room for extra riders). The BxM11 also serves the Bronx Zoo so it already has a reason for some people to use it reverse peak, the BxM4 currently has little to no reason for tourists/visitors to use the line reverse peak (unless some people use it to/from Yankee Stadium).

BxM11 doesn't need to go to Yonkers Raceway. If that route had any extension it would start at Downtown Mount Vernon and run on W 1st Street into the Bronx and run straight on White Plains Road Northbound.

If the 4C ever gets eliminated, revive the BxM4 extension plan to Yonkers Raceway

is running to Bowling Green overnight all weekend. , , and should be less crowded especially on Friday and Saturday night.

In this plan, the Bx25 will still serve Asch Loop (section 4) just like before. The Bx25 and Bx38 designations make it easier to distinguish between buses especially during the PM rush (since they will all have the same terminal).

Bx30 doesn't need to be changed

Another proposal Rush hours Bx25 4-5 (peak direction) Bx26 1-2-3-4-5 Bx28 1-2-3-4-5 Bx38 5 (Bay Plaza segment eliminated) Middays, Evenings, and Weekends Bx26 1-2-3-4-5 Bx28 1-2-3-4-5

MTA should just do this Split the Bx26 up during middays and rush hours and make a new Bx25 Middays and Rush Hours Bx25 terminates at Bay Plaza (Allerton version of Bx38) Sections 1-2-3-4 Bx26 same (another option is to have Bx26 buses skipping Asch Loop and go straight on Bartow like the Bx28 since the Bx25 will be starting from Bay Plaza) Bx28 same Bx38 same Buses arriving 5 minutes before dismissal could mean that empty buses will wait until the school kids get outside (like the Bx26 and Bx31 at Allerton and Lodovick would park outside the school and wait for a certain time) If the Bx26 were more frequent MTA could do this every day from around 6am-8pm (as long as headways on the Bx25/26 don't drop below a combined 15 minute headway). Bx25 1-2-3-4 Bay Plaza Bx26 Section 4-5 (Asch Loop) Bx28 Section 5 Bx38 1-2-3-4 Bay Plaza

Anyone think that the remaining trains should have run via 7 Av express to/from South Ferry or Chambers Street to help the when FASTRACK was in effect? At that time the (2)/(3)/(5) can fit on the 7 Av express tracks.

Looks like MTA has changed the way the runs during GOs where it is extended overnight (unless SubwayTime is wrong). MTA no longer extends all trains below E 180 St that happen before and after the GO. The Dyre Avenue shuttle runs for a bit before the GO extending service begins. Same thing in the early morning after the GO ends, some trains run as Dyre Avenue shuttles instead of MTA trying to maintain a 20-23 minute headway between E 180 St and Bowling Green. How much money is being saved by stopping service for 40-60 minutes (two different times) and restarting it again instead of running it the whole night like before?

Specifically the Bx7 was to be extended to Ludlow, not the Bx10

Bx5 on Zerega instead of Castle Hill allows it to stop there in both directions which it can't currently do now S/B (also allows for a S/B transfer to the Bx31 if it ever were extended on Zerega). Bx31 on Zerega and Commerce does give industrial areas new bus service and reduces walking distance for some workers (who don't drive).

MTA could just make the Bx9 all LTD on E 180 St, Southern Blvd, E Fordham Rd, and E Kingsbridge Road and local after Jerome Ave Local stops until E 180 St & Boston Road E 180 St & Crotona Parkway Southern Blvd & E Fordham Road E Fordham Road & 3 Av E Kingsbridge Road & E 192 St* E Kingsbridge Road & Grand Concourse Then all local stops *LTD stop only if S/B Bx22 (at least the Bedford Park buses) isn't rerouted from Valentine to Kingsbridge.

Never mind

Shouldn't those trains have been underground instead of the yard due to a snowstorm? One would think the underground trains would go in service N/B at 149 St (consistent service pattern) until the Bowling Green trains got to the Bronx.

The didn't even maintain consistent service N/B from 149 St to E 180 St. When S/B trains started going to Bowling Green, N/B service was only between E 180 St and Dyre Av until the Bowling Green trains came back to the Bronx.

There was also a BxM4D as well

If the Bx40/Bx42 get another rush hour service increase (after the planned April increase), there would be enough service to make the Bx42 a rush hour LTD (since it serves the Throgs Neck Houses). Bus lanes would be recommended on Tremont Av (177 St) between Webster Av & Boston Rd between 7-10am and 4-7pm.

Not really, according to this Bee Line liked a Bx34 extension to Mt Vernon, they would have been able to get rid of the W54. http://talk.nycsubway.org/perl/read?bustalk=47532 Also Bx30 doesn't go to Fordham, W60, W61, and W62 offer a one seat ride to Fordham

X90 was more costly to the MTA to run than the BxM4. MTA Bus gets 100% reimbursement for any losses.

BxM5 won't go any higher than Yonkers Avenue, anything past that is a Westchester County problem. One idea for the BxM5 is to have it stop at Yonkers Avenue, Central Park Avenue & McLean Avenue, another stop somewhere on McLean Avenue, the Woodlawn Heights stops, then via the old BxM4 super express route straight to Manhattan, while the BxM4 starts at Woodlawn running normally down the Grand Concourse. Every other bus will alternate between BxM4 (Woodlawn), BxM5 (Yonkers Raceway super express via Woodlawn Heights).

So it is either W8 to 231 St, or Bx7, Bx10, or Bx20* to Getty Square (MTA however wanted to stop at Ludlow MNR for some reason). *Bx20 extension is longer than the other two routes, but the Bx20 only runs rush hours only.

The Yonkers Raceway bus (BxM5) could skip Woodlawn and just have the people transfer from the Bx34 & Jerome & Bainbridge. If any version of the BxM4 doesn't stop at Woodlawn or Yonkers Raceway, then it will have even lower ridership (ex: BxM4A).