mark1447

 

 

It's just too easy to jump it nowadays. If there's no cop, the S/A can't do a thing. I put it on my life that if I had to pay the $100 fine for every time I jumped a turnstile, I'd have to pay well over $100,000...

 

Don't be fooled. Even if you don't see a cop around, some usually are hidden in those rooms near the entry. I've seen it plenty of times.

A dude was smoking on the subway last night when I was on the 6 train. Just putting that out there.

 

ehhh... nothing special with that mate, seen it many times. Just like once I saw someone drinking beer on the train.

I jumped the turnstile. The turnstile took the money on my metrocard.

 

You get caught, it ain't the MTA fault. If it took your money, you should of went to the S/A. If none were around, go to the active S/A part of the station for that.

Gonna say this again as before. Don't be surprised if this swap is temporary. Surely people on the Pelham Line won't be happy to see the R62As back on the , as I'm hearing and my personal belief. You MAY just see these head to ether the or (REGARDLESS of 2/5 Swap). You never know, for those who will say it will never happen!

Just like how those in Country Club won the extension of the Bx24 to the Square and Parkchester rez got there bus service back via Metropolitan Ave (BX4A).

Hopefully this swapping won't feud the politicians and communities the serve.

I actually think a Bx3 Limited would work with the above proposed stops.

 

The manhattan portion of the route (Grant/174-Bway/181) needs bus lanes honestly and some place to park off of 181. You have 5 buses using 1 lane of traffic in each direction, which is already a problem without the addition of traffic and the fire house by Amsterdam.

 

Elsewhere the problem isn't the fact that two buses left the GWB 6 minutes apart and got to Grant/174 at the same time (Southbound this happens at Fordham). Its the fact that because both buses were 6 minutes apart, they both look like rolling cans of sardines and have to make every stop. There aren't any transfers at 176 or 183, skipping them would speed up the rides of those going long distances and give people going shorter distances a better chance of getting on the bus. Some of the locals would have to run the full route though.

 

That or give the route Artics with the current headways. It makes no sense that none of the rush hour runs use them, apart from that horrible turnaround at 238 St (and they can make it).

 

As for the Bxm1 stop at West 230 St & Broadway, its okay to eliminate/combine this stop but 220 St gets to stay?

 

I actually see more people using Bway/230 than Corlear and putting the stop at KB avenue, makes those using the routes who live east have to walk further and more likely to miss their bus. Fixing the light sequence is simpler. With 220, no one's using it point blank. Not to get to Allen Pavillion, Baker Field, KB bus depot, or that car wash. Theres pretty much nothing else of use nearby. The people I know that live in the back of Inwood would always use 207 St and walk up Seaman. They have 215 St on the 1 right there and the fact that it has the lowest ridership out of all 1 stations kind of tells me the inhabitants aren't that pressed for express bus service. If you want to keep buses on schedule take that stop out. If anything I've been wondering why 225 St wasn't made a stop on the Bxm1 for the connection to Metro North/River Plaza.

 

My suggestions

Bx7 via HH Pkwy (rush hour short runs (246-207))

Bx10 (Riverdale Av-231-Bailey-VCW-Sedgwick-Goulden-BPB-Jerome-Gun Hill-Bainbridge)

Bx13 extended to 149-GC via River Av

Bx37 Mosholu Av/Bway-256 St-HH Pkwy-Kappock-Johnson-231-KB-230-Bway-225-Bailey-Sedgwick-Fordham (cans the Bx20, alleviates the Bx9 of riders going between Marble Hill and Fordham)

 

It would be nice to see ether the Bx7 or Bx10 to head to Getty Square. Even tho, there is the W8.

For the Bx13 to 149th, then you would need to eliminate the Bx13 Rush hour service in and out of 3rd Avenue/163rd, unless thats ok to leave.

 

 

And what exactly are you adding Mr. Bronxite? Oh and I'm so insulted about your comment about me not traveling to the Bronx. I know I'm missing out. lol

 

Awesome you concluded it as insult........ I'm not going to waste my time about that, but hear me out.

If you want people to quit the complaining, learn to explore around rather then sticking to one spot. There is more to look around in the Bronx then Riverdale. Even if you avoid the South Bronx, at least you have an eye around parts of the borough.

If your going to stick to one spot, then pretty much your going to stick to talking about Riverdale all the time. Push yourself out. Ever been to the Zoo? NY Botanical Gardens? City Island? Those are good spots as well. Riverdale isn't that special to even begin with. Yeah a nice view of the Hudson, but thats it.

Gotta explore. If you don't want too, thats fine, its all up to you. Same applies to all other boroughs out there. But that shows you, your missing a lot. Don't take ALL suggestions from relatives, friends, the media, etc. "Oh because of two shooting at 167th Street & Concourse and at Eastchester Road & Gun Hill Road, I'm not going to those parts". Please... a shooting or what ever shouldn't stop you from traveling. You go in the day, where folks are around, your good. Night is understandable, but the day is more safer then the night.

Anyways, I don't wanna push this thread into Lock, we should just get back on topic on improving the Bronx Routes, rather then fight over non-sense.

 

 

The heart of the Bx8's ridership is from Westchester Square to Pelham Parkway.

 

I do see some ridership all the way to Gun Hill, besides Pelham Parkway. But of course rank that #2 for ridership.

Is this a serious discussion, whether Riverdale is in the Bronx or not........

 

I think its a waste to even complaint to him. Every thread is going to end up with Express Buses, Riverdale and etc........ Of course he has nothing else good to say, he doesn't go anywhere else.

 

 

He's just being himself...

 

As for the route, the Bx8 isn't frequent enough to accomplish what I want. The Bx37 does, both, the Bx31 loop is part time.

 

The Bx8 ridership seems decent enough. If a problem occurs, add more buses. Ridership is more higher north of Westchester Square then going to Locust Point.

I don't see a purpose of there needing a Bx37 route. What would it fix anyways, besides ridership?

 

 

It supplements the Bx22 in Castle Hill as another route to take you to a busy area.

It supplements the Bx8 & Bx31 as north-south routes in Woodlawn, Eastchester, etc.

It gives the highly residential street of Laconia Avenue direct access to other services.

 

Your gonna need to give me more reasons for having this. I see the current routing ok. This looks a bit more duplicating the Bx8, compared to the Bx22.

 

 

lol... Well most parts of NYC are like that. You usually have to pass through some run down area or areas, but the key word is passing through, so long as you don't have to stop there it doesn't really matter. I mean I just take a nap on the express bus once we leave Riverdale and I see who gets on in Kingsbridge (usually older whites) and then I take a nap and wake up in Manhattan. Same thing going to Riverdale. It took a while to get used to but I'm fine with it now. I mean yeah maybe Riverdale is supposedly in the Bronx geographically, but I have no idea what the average person in the Bronx lives like. Anywho, getting back to Bronx proposals, I would also eliminate that Kingsbridge stop for the Riverdale express buses. They've got MetroNorth right there (Marble Hill stop) if they need quick service and the subway to boot. The change wouldn't have much of an impact on ridership either since most folks using it are from Spuyten Duyvil/Riverdale.

 

 

 

 

I'm from Brooklyn (Sheepshead Bay) so why would I have a problem with it? Brooklyn Heights, Bay Ridge, Dyker Heights, Gerritsen Beach, Mill Basin, Bergen Beach, Marine Park, Sheepshead Bay, Manhattan Beach, etc.... All lovely neighborhoods.

 

I'm not bashing the Bronx at all. Just stating the simple truth.

 

Then why move to the Bronx if all your going to do is stay put in Riverdale and ONLY go to Morris Park to see your "Co-Worker" but via Manhattan? The hoods is all it is. The Bronx isn't all hoody if you didn't know... I think your better off then moving it up to Westchester County, where you can ride Metro-North all day, or use the BxM4C for that.....

 

 

lol... You and I know that folks don't go "exploring" in the Bronx. Now tourists do come to Riverdale via the express bus or subway to the local bus to explore and walk around (upstairs Riverdale that is), but I don't see tourists going, oh let's go explore the Bronx! Not happening. LOL They say we're going to "Riverdale" not the Bronx. Now let me be clear in saying that I support the local businesses here in Riverdale, because we have a nice community here, but quite frankly I want nothing to do with the Bronx. Believe me when I say it there are plenty of people that live in Riverdale that would not step foot in a neighborhood of the Bronx.

 

 

 

lol... So what... You have Westchester buses that come into the Bronx... Doesn't mean anything. The fact remains that Riverdale is nothing like the Bronx. i would never live in the Bronx, even the good parts. Where I live it feels nor looks nothing like the Bronx and you can't say otherwise either because you know it's true. Honestly the first time I came to Riverdale on the BxM2, I said to myself, this is NOTHING like the Bronx!! Was truly beautiful... This was after the entire trip of passing through the depressing areas of the Bronx on the express bus with abandoned buildings and such and wondering how folks live in such poverty and squalor. I had a similar reaction with Morris Park but even more so with Riverdale. Now the part along Broadway does look like the Bronx architecturally, but upstairs Riverdale... Nothing like the Bronx. Sorry, but it's the truth. Riverdale is it's own little town, hence Riverdale, NY, and it has always set itself aside that way. Typing this right now, I'm sitting here with my balcony door open and it is so quiet with a nice breeze coming in... Don't even need an AC... Can't imagine doing that in most areas of the Bronx.

 

Even if you don't feel apart of the Bronx, you are still surrounded by the hoods. Yonkers (which yes has em), Washington Heights, and Kingsbridge. While Riverdale MAY look like its somewhat like Westchester (maybe Ossining or Tarrytown?!), but surely your still in the Bronx. You are connected to other neighborhoods no matter how it is. Same for Throgs Neck rez who feel they are no where near the rest of us, they are surely connected. City Island maybe its own Island (of course an Island of the Bronx), but surely the only way to get out of the island is thru the Bridge, and you are ether leaving thru the rest of the Bronx or thru Pelham Bay Park to the Pelhams, even tho you are still in the Bronx. There is no way in hell you would be avoiding the hoods. For that your gonna have a nice long commute going to the Tappen Zee and going down Interstate 287 to the 95 to the 495 to get to the city, but surely thats one crazy decision.

Nvm..

 

 

 

Yeah well I don't travel to the Bronx. I stay in Riverdale and travel from Riverdale to the city and back so it's either the Riverdale express buses (BxM1, BxM2 or BxM18) or MetroNorth for me. Even if I went to visit say my ex co-worker there in the Bronx where he lives at in Morris Park I would simply take the express bus from Riverdale, go to the city and then transfer to the BxM10 in the city to get to the Bronx. Either that or I would take one of the car services in Riverdale over to Morris Park. There's a very nice car service "Kingsdale" that serves us here and they use only Lincoln's.

 

Awwwwwww thats sad..... because I've been all over the Bronx, even de h00dzzzzz and I can say this, there ARE safe areas, besides the Same old Riverdale, Throgs Neck and Morris Park. If you don't explore, and just listen what other folks say (or think based on what you see), then your missing it.

Parkchester, Co-op City, Pelham Bay, West Farms, Tremont, Fordham, etc are safe. Yes there are downside AT TIMES in different parts, but the Day is clearly safe.

Edit: To the part you said you take an Express Bus to Manhattan and Back to The Bronx, I LOL'ed! Wow man, seriously? Then why move to the Bronx if you can't make a stop or even pass on the Bus to get to Morris Park or another area....

Bx7 to 207 for the SBS12 takes ya there.... oops sorry, you use the Express. -__-.........

 

 

I can concede the Bx5 idea because the theory was based on that shoppers would want Bay Plaza over White Plains Road.

 

As for the Bx1, while the idea of sharing units is good, they can easily move from 138th - 3rd to 135th - St. Nicholas if they need a Bx1 to run as a Bx2 as well in the North Bronx. As for length, all you would be adding is .9 of a mile to a route. But to compromise, what if only half of the runs would go to 135th - St. Nicholas where as the remainder would still go to the current terminal?

 

 

 

For Bx5 riders and Bay Plaza, just add a three legged transfer between the Bx5 and either the Bx29, Bx12, or Bx12 SBS.

 

Yep, same for the Bx1.

For select Bx1, I still don't know. The demand on 135th Street is called for the Bx33, which in fact ridership isn't high, running from 8 to even 30mins various times. There would need to be demand, which plays as well, and the Bx1, surely isn't demanded there. I also don't think the Bx33 riders would be happy to see an increase in its headway. Right now it sucks.

Now if the Bx33 were nixed, then MAYBE the Bx1 could swing it down there. But even that won't please those going to Port Morris.

Here are two ideas that may work

 

Send the Bx1 over to 135th St & St. Nicholas. At the same time, you can reduce service on the Bx33 to 25 minutes all times besides Sunday AM

 

Weekend Bx5 service extended to Bay Plaza. Some of the Summer weekend service would still go to Orchard Beach.

 

The Bx1 is long enough. If this were to happen, then it plays an issue with the Bx2, because both share equipment down in Mott Haven. Also don't think it would work to get Artics turning up at 137/Edgecomb. 135th St Between 7th and St. Nich is pretty tight with only 2 lanes open, rest is parking.

What I would do is extend the Bx33 North of 135th to 140th, up 140th to Convert (for via CCNY, or AMS) and down to 135th and end it somewhere on Broadway.

The Bx5, no point. Ridership isn't high enough. Bx5 has a much higher ridership West of White Plains Road. Plus you already got the Bx12, Bx23, Bx29, Q50 for that.

Someone doesn't use buses in the Bronx. (I won't give names)

 

Yep. Some want to say anything, yet a few people never or don't ride the Bronx routes much........... The Bronx is invisible for a few folks , and its where the "hoods" be at, yet every borough has a "hood". The only places you will see some folks here is at Pelham Bay Park and Fordham Plaza. Nothing else. Just like Staten Island is claimed to be "far", which I don't see it way far.

Who the hell cares how it looks? Its a car sheeh. The R179 is not suppose to be a major upgrade. Thats being saved for the R211 based on rumors. Don't even foam over the interior, its expected to be similar to the R160s. Anyways, all I can say is all you new tech haters is don't waste your time arguing over old vs new, go grab your pixs and ride of the older cars before they go byebye (If most will do), Even IF its on a line you don't like.

Seems like the R46s will be on the today and R32s / R46s on the as per a photo I saw from someone at Pitkin.

A proposal hasn't been made in weeks, so I decided to put in my two cents.

 

Bx18:

Norwood, 205th Street Station

Westchester Square

 

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=213458373195564989412.0004c0e59b33968962771&msa=0&ll=40.880846,-73.8834&spn=0.009393,0.019226

 

Yes, I am fully aware of the traffic that the route will run into on Fordham and Tremont, there is ample time to make up delays.

 

And... whats going to replace the Bx18 thats running now? Not the Bx40/42 as the line is long enough.

Wabtec Signs Contracts To Provide Components For 473 Subway Cars For New York City

Wabtec Corporation (NYSE: WAB) has signed contracts valued at about $34 million to provide components for 473 subway cars being supplied by Kawasaki to MTA New York City Transit under the R-188 option order. The cars are scheduled to be delivered in 2013-15.

Wabtec will provide the following components for the cars: Brakes, couplers and current collectors (Wabtec Passenger Transit), door operators and related equipment (Vapor Stone), and event recorders (Wabtec Railway Electronics). Of the 473 cars, 103 will be new, with the remaining 370 to be upgraded from existing vehicles.

"This is a significant project to expand and modernize a portion of the subway car fleet in New York City, and we're pleased to play an important role," said Albert J. Neupaver, president and chief executive officer of Wabtec.

Wabtec Corporation is a global provider of technology-based products and services for rail and industrial markets. Through its subsidiaries, the company manufactures a range of products for locomotives, freight cars and passenger transit vehicles. The company also builds new switcher and commuter locomotives, and provides aftermarket services. The company has facilities located throughout the world.

Source: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/24/4513661/wabtec-signs-contracts-to-provide.html#storylink=cpy

Link to that FASTRACK poster yall seen from KEYR.

http://mta.info/mta/news/books/docs/FasTrack120521.pdf

PDF from the MTA.

As far as the Lexington Avenue FASTRACK goes, I see it going in two phases:

1: Lower level tracks closed. run local on the upper level, ends early.

2: Upper level tracks closed. run express on the lower level, and the also ends early. Also, shuttle bus service and/or additional M101/102/103 service would be provided for local stations since they would be bypassed in both directions.

 

They're better off doing it like this because it would end up being "all hands on deck" with the shuttle buses if the entire Upper Lex line closed down for the night, and would probably eat up the savings from shutting the whole line down.

 

Im really sure the line will shut down from 125th to GCT. The MTA has mentioned many times that FASTRACK G/Os will close a portion of the line. The 6th Avenue Fastrack is SOMEWHAT like the Lexington Avenue line, with the Express tracks not connected to the Local track, from 34th to West 4th, and even that the line got shut down. Even if they can work on the upper level, while trains are on the express track, it ill still interfere with work. 110th / 103rd the express tracks are lined up with the Local.

For your 1st phase, it doesn't make much sense, since after like 1AM (when no more (4)s are running express), the express tracks are cleared up. Pretty much work can be done, even after the is done with EXP. But like I said above, I'm sure the line will shut down, requiring people to use MABSTOA bus routes.

By looking at this TwitterPic on the 2013 FASTRACK corridor, I've decided to give out my opinions on 5 FASTRACK projects and hopefully we might have an understanding about this for quite a while.

 

 

3. corridor - FASTRACK in The Bronx, what are the odds on that? For this one, the line will end early (last train to Brighton Beach leaves 145th St at 9:56 PM and last train to 145th St leaves Brighton Beach at 8:49 PM). Trains are likely to end at 145th St instead of 161st St-Yankee Stadium, maybe because of platform renovations, track cleaning, reinstalling track switches south of Fordham Road, and hopefully part of the never-been-planned Line extension along Burke Av.

 

I really doubt the will get cut to 145th. You can easily relay trains out of 161st, just have it skip 155th. The can still go to 161st and connect with the for those needing to go up. Connect with a Shuttle Bus at Bedford for 205th Street service. 145th does make sense, but a bad choice. This will crowd up the Bx19, if no shuttle bus is provided.

 

 

 

4. ® corridor - Either the and run local, or the and ® run express. Only time will tell.

 

They mentioned shuttle buses will replace it. Likely the would be an alternative to get 74th Street and connect with a Jamaica Center and 179th shuttle trains.

 

5. corridor - They're both the same, but the planning might be different than this year. Trains will run in 2 sections: 1. Between Woodlawn and 125th St. 2. Between Grand Central-42nd St and New Lots Av (trains start running local). Train service will end early (last train to Bowling Green leaves Eastchester-Dyre Av at 9:08 PM and last train to Eastchester-Dyre Av leaves Bowling Green at 9:35 PM). Trains will also run in 2 sections: 1. Between Pelham Bay Park and 125th St. 2. Between Grand Central-42nd St and Crown Heights-Utica Av.

 

This makes sense, use the Lexington / 3rd Avenue Buses, and your good.

 

- [Lexington Ave. IRT] from 45th to 100th Sts...... lol

 

 

actual stations or sections....

Yeah I found that funny too. Sections im sure (42nd to 125th Street). No alternatives except the buses (From 59th to 125).

Of course, all this is subject to change.

 

 

What bus coverage is required for the closures? Just use the or other local bus routes that run in the area instead.

 

Queens Blvd??? That will be a nightmare!

Likely for the 's coverage would be using the train for 161st to Bedford Park. With Shuttle Bus Service from 205th to Bedford Park.

And the as an alternative? Lol nope! Thats wayyyy to far man.

And the Bx1 / Bx2 do not run overnight as stated above.

Next years is gonna be interesting!

Why is any of this a problem? If 57 St can turn the with the running through on weekend, it can surely turn even the with the running through at late night headways.

 

Well he did mentioned reroute the via 53rd. But you can send the to 57th Street or 21st Street.

If the Broadway would be closed, it shouldn't be really hard:

 

start shuttle service at 10PM

two sections: Astoria-QBP and CI-Queensbridge

via 53rd

Turn at Atlantic Ave

 

I wouldn't even cut Queensbridge - 36th Street (and replaced by a Shuttle Bus) unless there is a reason for that.

Instead, Have the run via 53rd and turn at QNS PLZ. can run normal.

And if anyone says, it might delay the , not really..... you can work something around that.

Colors:

 

Blue - East of Hudson (Hudson/Harlem Line(s)).

Red - Connecticut (New Haven/New Canaan Line(s))

 

*Diesel Service North of Croton-Harmon on Hudson, SouthEast on Harlem, Danbury Branch and Waterbury Branch in Connecticut (M# series cannot go on those lines...

 

Seeing that in Line colors Blue = Harlem , Red = NH, Green = Hudson..

I wonder if they ever thought of a Green coloring for its EMUs on Hudson?