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The MTA's Fastrack program, which shuts down large portions of subway lines overnight, isn't just for Manhattan any more. The pilot program will be expanded to the outer boroughs - possibly to the chagrin of late night riders.

 

MTA spokesman Kevin Ortiz said Fastrack will continue into next year, when it will expand to lines in the outer boroughs and possibly the N, Q and R trains along Broadway in Manhattan.

 

Originally, the shutdowns were only supposed to take place in Manhattan, and only this year, for a total of 16 weeks of inconvenience. But the MTA has declared Fastrack a success because of how much maintenance is getting done.

 

Each Fastrack shutdown lasts Monday to Friday, from 10 at night until 5 in the morning. The program, started in January, allows crews to work for seven straight hours on long stretches of track without stopping to let trains pass by.

 

But that means late night riders have to scramble to find a shuttle bus or trek to another subway line to get to where they want to go. The MTA has warned that riders should expect to add about 20 minutes to each trip when a line is shut for fastrack.

 

According to the MTA, "Fastrack is a safer and more efficient way to maintain and clean New York City's sprawling subway - a system that never closes...800 MTA employees are able to inspect signals, replace rails and cross ties, scrape track floors, clean stations and paint areas that are not reachable during normal train operation."

 

Fast Track continues this week with the suspension of the B, D, F and M lines between 57th and West 4th Streets, starting Monday night.

 

http://www.wnyc.org/blogs/wnyc-news-blog/2012/may/14/mta-fastrack-expand-outer-boroughs/

It is possiable to see the BMT Broadway getting some Fastrack loving!

This coming summer, are both the A & C lines going to flip cars, the R32 from the C to the A & half of the R46 from the A to the C.

 

If so, what is the date and month this will happen.

Theres gonna be at least one R32 on the . Like last year.

Im Starting a Thread on the Summer Time Swaps that occurred last year and the year before last, Last year the had 100% R46's in 2010 the had mostly R44's with 8 car R32's, and the had R32's and R46's for the past 2 years in the summertime and last year one set of R42's were also on the . last year for one weekend 2 train sets of R32's were on the Rockaway Park Shuttle (summertime) and were signed up as , now that the summer is comming and its in the talks of happening again including a possible return of the R42 train, its most likely gonna happen and don't be surprised to see not 1 but a 2 sets of R42's or more due to the R32's SMS program, share your thoughts and at shoreline PLEASE DO NOT CLOSE THIS THREAD UNLESS THERE IS FLAMMING OR IF IT RUNS ITS COURSE!!!

 

thank you

 

share your thoughts and pictures or videos

 

The wasn't 100% last year. There was at least one R32 on it.

BTW i think this thread should be in the Main NYCS forum as this is more of a discussion, even if vids/pixs are added!

Actually I agree about the Bx1... I'm on Riverdale Avenue a lot and the Bx7 is often overcrowded. Since the Bx1 has artics it would help out the Bx7... Either extend the Bx1 or put artics on the Bx7...

 

Artics would be ok for the Bx7. But depends, since I'm not sure if turning to 231st after Broadway is ok or not. For the Bx1 its already long enough. If Jerome Reservoir did not exist or would able to cut thru it, then maybe or if the Limited continues to 256thl.

MAYBE the Bx3 I'd use and reroute it via Broadway to 242nd Street followed by Manhattan College Parkway, to serve those who also need college access. But thats about it.

Other alternative, use the M100, make it an LTD along the Bx7 portion and end it at 256th Street. But that might be long as well.

With the Bx11, I wanted to kill two birds with one stone. While it goes to Morris Heights to retain their access to 170th Street, it would retain service in underserved Highbridge. Macombs Road doesn't have many generators for ridership (save for the middle school on 176th St, where the Bx3/36 are nearby).

 

For the Broadway to Bailey situation, it depends on where riders originate. If they're at the Marble Hill Houses, they would walk south to 225th St. If coming from 230th, they would walk up to 231st. With this plan, those coming from Riverdale won't have to get off at Corlear/Kingsbridge Avs to walk two blocks to the downtown since the Bx7 would stop in front of the station in both directions.

 

For the Bx13 to The Hub & Gateway, the only downside is that it would miss the courts and social services by Concourse Plaza. There will be a good number of riders transferring from the Bx13 to the Bx6, just to travel 1-2 stops to the courts (to avoid walking the underpass or crossing the dangerous Grand Concourse).

 

As for the Bx30, I'm thinking of going back to the original idea of sending it to VA Hospital. It would serve the educational mile along with the Bx28, and provide those in the Northeast Bronx access to that hospital, and to Bronx Community College (by way of the Bx3 transfer at University Av).

 

For the Bx13, I don't see a problem sending it to the Gateway. Besides the current Bx13 doesn't even go at all times passed Gerard Avenue, except AM. People can walk if they have to, to get to these place. Even use the Bx6. Now if the Bx13 were to be used to head to Barretto Park via the Bx6 route, then I'd allow the Bx13 to run down River Avenue, stop at the Mall and then via 156th Street to the Concourse and back via the Bx6. Some Bx13s may cut this.

My replies in Dark Red.

I propose

Bx1: Extend via Riverdale Ave to 246 street - No need. You got the Bx7 / Bx10 / Bx20 for that

Bx2: Retain

Bx3: Rerouted via Macombs Road,then in Bx11 route to GWB weekdays Its perfect how it is. Bx3 / Bx11 has pretty high ridership.

Bx4: Extended to Pelham Bay Park and Co-Op City via Bx23 routing Pelham Bay thats fine. But that dupts the IRT and Bx24

Bx4A: See Bx24

Bx5: Extended via Einstein Loop to City Island Thats good, it can give riders of City Island a faster way to Co-op, but MAY compete with the Bx29.

Bx6; Retain

Bx7: Rerouted via H H P Nah its good the way it is.

Bx8: Retain

Bx9: Extra Rush and Saturday Service Service is good enough. Service will still get tied up due to traffic on US Route 1.

Bx10:Some Sevice originates at 207 street in Manhattan (2AM and 2PM Trips to 207 street). Limited stop service all day weekdays from 6 Am-10 PM You got the Bx7 & Bx20.

Bx11: Rerouted via Macombs Road and Unversity Avenue to Replace Bx18 and Allieviate Bx3/Bx36 No need.

Bx12: Retain

Bx13: Some service extended to Hunts Point No need. Bx6 is doing it. But maybe to Barretto Park and then to the NYPD Corrections terminal (of where the Bx6 ends near) would do.

Bx15: Retain

Bx16: Service extended to Fordham via bx34 route weekdays and Saturdays I would eliminate the Bx34 instead.

Bx17: Retain

Bx18:Eliminated, see Bx11/Bx40/42 Bx40/Bx42 is long enough, UNLESS a limited Service is added, then it would be fine. But the Bx18 is ok. I'd extend it to Yankees instead via River.

Bx19: Retain

Bx20: Eliminated, see Bx7/Bx10

Bx21: Retain

Bx22: Retain

Bx23: Eliminated, see Bx4

Bx24: Extended along Weatchester Avenue and Metropolitan Avenue to the Hub using Hybrids Then your bringing back the old Bx14 route.

Bx24: Short-turns Aling Westchester Avenue and Metropolitan from WF using CNG Buses

Bx26: Retain

Bx27: Retain

Bx28: Retain and revert to 6/2010 routings Nah its good how it is, same for the Bx38. Make the Bx28 instead limited. Bx28 is a bit longer.

Bx29: See Bx5

Bx30: Retain

Bx31: Retain

Bx32:Retain

Bx33: Extend to St Nicholas Avenue or To Broadway It already goes to St. Nicholas. But Broadway via 141st Street and Amsterdam, Yes.

Bx34: See Bx16

Bx35: Rerouted along Bx11 Route until they intersect again from the GWB in the Bronx in Unversity Heights

Bx36; Limiteds take Castle Hill and Cross Bronx Expressway. Just Kidding, Retain ALL Service

Bx38: Make it the limited stop version of the Bx28 skipping Northern Co-Op city 7 days a week while some are local short-turns only to 205 street See my Bx28 comment

Bx39: Retain

Bx41: Retain

Bx40: Limited making stops at major intersections during the day, local past 10 PM, and extended to Current Bx18 terminal via Segdwick/Undercliff Avenue to below the GWB

Bx42: Extended via Segdwick/Undercliff to current Bx18 terminal Bx40 LTD would be GOLD. As for Bx18 replacement, read the Bx18 comment.

Q44: Retain

Q50: Retain

 

 

Bee-Line does not need major changes. Many of these routes do not do pickup/drop offs at the same time, except the W45 in Pelham Bay and the W60/W61/W62X along US Route 1 (Boston Rd). W1 + Branch/2/3/4/20/21LTD/40/41LTD/43X/52/55/53 all do drops offs going Down and Pick ups going North.

 

 

60: Retain

61: Retain

62: Limited Stop in the Bronx Not just the Bronx, but entirely on US Route 1 to New Rochelle. But this is all about Bee-Line, not MaBSTOA.

40/41: Retain

43: Limited stop in the Bronx I hope you do know that this route only does 2-3 stops in the Bronx.. So No.

45: Retain

1: Retain

1T: Proposed to Be combined with the 1 T = Tarrytown, this bus ends in Tarrytown. So No.

1C: Renamed 111 / 1W: Renamed 101 It is a BIT confusing for city folks on all the W1s branches, but not as much for those in Westchester. Since all routes of the 1/2 is PRETTY high in ridership in Yonkers, I wouldn't mess with it. MAYBE the W2 to replace 1T to Tarrytown would be nice. But that bus is pretty packed in Yonkers/Bronx, so don't know about combining. Your missing the 1W which is for White Plains as well.

1X: Eliminated, use 3 Gotta learn more about Bee-Line bro. The 1X is an EXPRESS to/from Westchester Medical Center to the Bronx via SBP and US Route 9. The 3 has nothing to do with this route. 3 is Express between White Plains and Bronx via Yonkers.

3: Limited Stop in the Bronx - No. The W3 does not need to make LTD stops. You got the Bx9. The W1/2/3 all makes PICK UP only North to Yonkers border (followed by drop offs/picks ups), and Drop off only South of Bronx/Yonkers Border.

2: Retain

8: Retain

 

 

 

I proposed something similar to that idea a couple yrs ago back on RD.... except I had it continuing down amsterdam & across 125th to end w/ the Bx15.... I was basically presenting such a plan the same way you are with yours....

 

However, actually attending there for a couple summers, I came to a realization that made me rescind any Bx33 extension....

 

Problem is, CCNY kids aren't walking down to St. Nicholas park to catch the 33 ..... and I can assure you none of them students coming off the will take the bus to CCNY itself (your best case scenario would be to have buses at the station ready & waiting for them).... Even the old M18 up/down convent didn't do those students any justice - and that stopped at 125th st subway (A/B/C/D) & stopped right dead in front of the campus' as well...... You would have to add service to the route to make it more conducive to them, on top of extending it (b/c buses only run like 15 mins peak, 20 off peak IINM)..... You'd have to gauge how many CCNY students are from the bronx, that would ride down from wherever they're emanating from, to even reach the 33...

 

Speaking of which, you also have to consider where the Bx33 goes in the Bronx, if you want to talk about improving the route....

Quite honestly, I'm glad the route is still around... I wouldn't do any tinkering around with it....

Good idea on paper, I just don't think it'd be all too worth it realistically....

 

Some of the CCNY students use the CCNY Bus Service. I think there are two routes. One from 137th IRT Station and the other out of 145th IND.

Leaning towards no. The Bx19 has good service, but it's just pretty slow.

 

Instead, we should focus on improving the Bx33.

 

 

 

I've always wanted this to happen. Hopefully one day I or someone would suggest to the MTA. No need to walk via St. Nicholas Park just to reach the west, or even the Bx15 / Bx19.

Traffic wise, yes the Bx15 / Bx19 has a lot a traffic at times to deal with, but the Bx33 also deals with it sometimes between 3rd Avenue and St. Mary Street along 138th. But not far worst as the other routes.

do you think 145th street needs more service in manhattan

 

No, its good enough. If the buses are late, its the bus drivers fault, traffic, or what ever the issue is. I've seen up to 3 to even 4 Bx19s back to back many times.

 

Do you have a plan to restore the M104 via 42nd St that takes a cost-neutral, ridership-neutral approach? If not, Operations planning (OP) will laugh at your idea, and toss it into the garbage.

 

Even I want the M104 to the UN restored. But I live on 42nd St, and, unfortunately, the current service pattern has worked beyond OP's expectations. And, as that the staff at OP are entrenched and have the confidence of their superiors, including Prendergast, M104 service via any part of 42nd St will not be restored.

 

I believe there was a discussion before from the News mentioning that the M104 could get restored back along 42nd Street. Maybe have select trips to UN and the rest short turns at 41st.

No, I don't understand. I don't get out to the Bronx a lot, so I need some clarification.

 

Come to the Bronx a bit more, and you will see service how it is now.

A good chunk of the Bx13's crowd at Yankee Stadium (heading to Highbridge) come from the Bx6.

 

From which direction? West or Eastbound Bx6 Customers?

I do agree that the Bx13 could get extended, even if its up to 3rd Avenue. That AM Rush only service i don't get the point.

I'd use the M10 instead. Extend it instead. Even make it a limited downtown.

 

It couldn't even be limited-stop because its too infrequent. But I'm neutral when it comes to re-merging the M10 and M20.

 

The M10 is not that infrequent. The M20 is a lot more infrequent then the 10. I say add more buses.

Re-merging and sending it to South Ferry is also a good idea. I've said that in the past. Have the M10 run to the Ferry, while the M5 cuts back to Houston Street, and the M2 LTD heads down to the Ferry replacing the M5. M2 Limited service extends to Houston.

 

 

The current M10 feels like a shell of its former self.... Of course ppl. still use it, but it's like, its importance or prevalence has been greatly diminished

 

 

You aint kiddin... service on the M11 sucks, and it's been like that for years now...

this past sunday I rode it from 34th to the park & I said to myself, yup, still the SOS w/ this route....

 

 

The M10 is highly used in Harlem, compared to Central Park West. If you stand around 125th Street & 8th around the Rush, Northbound Buses gets packed. If Limited won't do, then maybe as I mentioned above, merge with the M20.

For the M11, yes it does suck. Most of the issue with delays is due to traffic between 34th Street and 50th Street with those cars/trucks/buses trying to go to Lincoln Tunnel for NJ access. The Bus ends up getting late by 10 or even 20 min. Been thru it and its hell.

Mine in red.

Proposal # 1:

 

Have the M31 absorb the M57. Implement morning peak-period limited-stop service from Yorkville to Midtown only. All Midtown-bound local trips would operate via Sutton Place South and E 55 St.

 

Proposal # 2:

 

M9 - Restore service via Ave B and E 14 St to Union Square.

 

I would wonder if the M9 would replace ether the M14A or M14D.

 

M22 - After Madison St, operate via Jackson St, Grand St, Pitt St (which would become a two-way street), Avenue C, and the current M9 to Peter Cooper Village.

 

Proposal # 3:

 

M2 - Operate southbound via the current M5 to South Ferry all times except late nights. Return via State St, Battery Pl, Trinity Pl, Church St, Worth St, Centre St, and Lafayette St, then current routing.

 

 

Sounds good, even tho it will be long. For that I would add more Limited Stop service to it.

 

M5 - Operate to Houston St. Restore pre-June 2010 routing and stop assignments.

M6 - Restore route. Operates between South Ferry and Central Park South all times except late nights. Northbound would operate via the pre-June 2010 routing of State St, Battery Pl, Trinity Pl, Church St, and 6 Ave. But would operate southbound via Central Pk S, 7 Ave, 7 Ave S, Varick St, Park Pl, Broadway, and State St.

 

I'd use the M10 instead. Extend it instead. Even make it a limited downtown.

 

M7 - Cut back to Penn Station when the M6 operates.

M20 - Operate southbound via 9 Ave, Bethune St, and Greenwich St (7 Ave service replaced with restored M6)..

 

 

M11 - Reduce service where possible in order to satisfy the Bus Loading Guidelines.

 

M11 feels reduced enough, especially with late buses at times.

 

So, what do you think? I think that Proposals 1 and 3 could easily be implemented, because they would, at the very least, pay for themselves. Proposal # 2 may be a long shot, but could hopefully be implemented when the economy gets healthier.

 

never gonna happen W60 does not need more delays if anything it should never dropoff in bronx on northbound trips according to beeline bus OPS that is the main reason why W60/61 is so late. keystone the reason why x32 failed it only had one trip and it was geared for just students

 

Bee-Line should consider a 60 Limited, has thats pretty long. Especially with heavy ridership along US Route 1.

 

For the Bx6/13, I had the Bx13 go to Lafayette to get to Tiffany St and serve Barretto Point Park, silencing Hunts Point residents who cry of the lack of access to the park.

 

With the Bx15, I always felt that the 125th St traffic has hurt the route's performance. For a first-hand look, try using the Bx15 on weekends. The Bx15 arrives in 2's or 3's after a 20-minute wait along 3rd Avenue. Besides, there's plenty of buses and the and to reach Harlem from the South Bronx.

 

I reduced the Bx19's route in order to improve its performance, same reason why Bx41 service was cut north of Gun Hill in 2010.

 

Remember, the Bx26 serves Broadway, a different part of Riverdale than the Bx10.

 

As for the Bx28 LTD, I was thinking about it strongly. It would make limited stops between Section 5 and Paul AV, then local to 225th St.

 

The Bx16 would go to Fordham and the Bx10 to Woodlawn to allow for the elimination of the Bx34. With the latter, politics can also play a pivotal role as Woodlawn and Riverdale are often in the same political districts and district offices there would usually be in Riverdale.

 

-For the Bx15, I understand there is a traffic problem, but the Bx15 is not the only route that deals with traffic issues, you also got the M60, M100, M101 dealing with it too. The M101 is much longer then the Bx15 which deals with a lot more traffic when it hits Midtown. The solution to 125th Streets issue is installing bus lanes and enforcement.

-For the Bx13, then I would suggest artics or additional buses. This route gets pretty packed at River Avenue going Northbound. Who knows if it gets much more heat if it were extended.

-For the Bx19, there are people who ride to Manhattan with it north of Westchester Avenue. People will surely not be pleased with the loss of the Bx19. An alternative would be to send up the Bx27 which might help in passenger numbers for the Bx19 if traveling between Fordham and Westchester Ave.

That's how it should be anyway, with or without the removal of the Bx10.....

 

I would love for this to happened, but its not allowed. They just want people to use the Bx16 / Bx34 or the Bx10. I even wish Bee-Line were allowed to do drop offs along Fordham for the 60/61/62 NorthBound.

For the Bx10 removal on Jerome Avenue, if this were to happen, I would suggest that Bee-Line Route 4 / 20 / 21 would be allowed to do pick ups an drop offs entirely in the Bronx. Because there are people who use the Bx10 to get to/from the stores between Mosh and Gun Hill.

or merge with bx16 and call it done OR extreme measures to boost ridership insert evil laugh queens cough queens WESTERN THAT IS

 

Doing that would add extra time since you would need the bus to go up Katonah Avenue then via Van Cortlandt Pk Ave down. Its possiable, but idk whats the ridership number between Katonah & Van Cortlandt Pk Ave E on 233rd.

Replies in Red.

I'll copy/paste the ideas:

 

Bronx Bus Overhaul

 

Southwest Bronx

 

Bx6 and Bx13: interlined, both run under West Farms Depot

Combined Headways

Rush hrs: 3.5 mins (7 mins each)

Middays: 5 mins (10 mins each)

Evenings/Weekends: 6 mins (12 mins each)

 

Bx6: runs to Riverside Drive late nights to connect with at 157th Street

 

Bx13: extended east to Hunts Point Market

runs via Tiffany St to replace Barretto Point Park Shuttle

Route: 161 St, Elton Av, 163 St, Hunts Point Av, Lafayette Av, Tiffany St, Viele Av, Food Center Drive

 

Not bad, but most of Hunts Point is industry. Unless its to provide service for the housing along Lafayette?

 

Bx15 & Bx55: interlined, both run under West Farms Depot

Combined Headways

Rush hrs: 4 mins (8 mins each)

Middays and Weekends (during the day): 5 mins (10 mins each)

 

Bx15: runs between Fordham Plaza and 138th St/3rd Av station

5am-8pm weekdays, 8am-6pm weekends

use local Bx55 other times

no longer runs on Willis Avenue

 

 

 

Bx55: runs between Gun Hill Rd sta and 125th St/Lexington Av (4/5/6) sta

northbound via Madison Avenue Bridge

makes limited stops 5am-8pm weekdays, 8am-6pm weekends

runs local other times

 

Nope. Demand for via 125th Street all the way accross. Why cut service to Manhattanville?

 

Bx11: runs between West Farms Rd/Southern Blvd and River Park Towers

replaces Bx18 in Morris Heights, use Bx13/35 for Washington Heights

Route: 168th St, 167th St, Sedgwick Av, Tremont Av, McCracken Av, Harlem River Park Bridge, Undercliff Av

 

Bx18: eliminated, use Bx11 for Morris Heights

 

Demand. I've passed 181st Street lots of times and there are lots of people use the Bx11.

 

North Bronx

 

Bx19: truncated to Westchester Av/Southern Blvd

use Bx9 for north of Westchester Av

 

Bx9: runs between Hunts Point Av sta and 225th St/Bway sta

replaces Bx19 north of Westchester Av

Use extended M100 for Broadway

 

No way! I wouldn't wanna see this cut, high ridership, and no point to force Bx19 riders south of Westchester to transfer to the Bx9. Plus there are people who ride it to/from NYBG and the Zoo. Also the Bx9 is long enough, and demand is at West Farms.

 

 

 

Bx20: interlined with Bx7, extended north to 263rd St/Riverdale Av

 

No need. Use the Bx10.

 

Bx22: new western terminus is 225th St/Bway sta

use Bx28/30 for Goulden Av

 

To long. Bx9 instead.

 

Bx26: extended west to 262nd/Bway via Paul Av, Mosholu, Van Cort, Bway

allows faster connection between Riverdale and train

Bx28 & Bx38: merged into one route (bx28)

runs between Earhart Lane and 225th St/Bway sta via All sections

route: Mosholu Pkwy, Paul, Bedford Park, Goulden, Kingsbridge

use , Bx1/2, Bx16, Bx41/55 for Fordham

 

But you already have the Bx10 if you want Riverdale Service and the IRT. Maybe 231st Riverdale Ave or 238th and Bway.

 

The Bx28/38 was split because of the budget cut and to shorten the Bx28. I like the Bx38 anyways since theres always a crowd going West of Gun Hill and White Plains Road to the Hospital. Maybe the Bx28 can make LTD along Gun Hill from Bartow & Co-op to 206th Street.

 

 

Bx30: runs from Earhart Lane to 231st/Bway

rerouted via 222nd St to fill crosstown gap and serve Edenwald Houses

use Bee-Lines for Boston Rd

route: Boston Rd, Grace Av, 229th St, Laconia Av, 222nd St, White Plains Rd, Gun Hill Rd, Bainbridge Av, Mosholu Pkwy, Sedgwick Av, Giles Pl, Heath av, Albany Crescent, Bailey Av, 231st St

 

Bx34: eliminated

use Bx10 for Woodlawn and Bx16 for Fordham

 

Bx10: new eastern terminus is 242nd/Katonah

Route changes east of Dickinson Av

route: Sedgwick, Mosholu, Paul, Bedford Park, Bainbridge, Jerome, 233, Katonah

 

Bx16: runs between Fordham Center and Ropes/Hollers Avs

via 233 St

use Bx23 for Nereid/Baychester

 

Why the Bx10 to Woodlawn? The Bx16 follows the Bx34 & the Bx31. Maybe the Bx16 to Fordham would be nice. The Bx10 is good at where its at.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bx23: runs between Pelham Bay Park and 233rd/Webster

via Sections 3-4-5

Route: Bronx Blvd, Nereid, Mundy, Pitman, Baychester, Boston, Conner, Co-op City Blvd, Asch, Bartow, Hutchinson, Hunter, Earhart, Erskine, bruckner

 

Q50: new northern terminus is Dyre Av station

runs local in The Bronx, serves Sec 1-2-4-5

Route: Bruckner, Erskine, Bx30 route to Boston Rd, then Dyre Av

 

Bx30 / Bx28 / Bx38 as an Alternative.

 

Southeast Bronx

 

Bx5: truncated to Brush/Schley Avs

use Q50 for Bruckner Blvd

 

Nah good the way it is.

 

Bx24: rerouted via Waters Pl to serve Bronx Psychiatric and Hutch Metro Ctr

Route: Westchester, Waters, Bronx Psy Loop, Waters, Hutch Metro Loop, Waters, Eastchester, Williamsbridge, Tremont, Lane Av

 

Good idea!

 

Bx31: extended to Castle Hill/Zerega Avs to serve Unionport

Route: Lane Av, Commerce, Zerega

 

No comment.

 

Bx27: eliminated

use Bx36 for Rosedale av and new Bx37 for 174th St, and bx4/4a for Westchester

 

Demand as always.

 

Bx36: new eastern terminus is Clason’s Point

use Bx37 for 174th St

Route: 180th St, Rosedale/Taylor avs, 174th St, Rosedale, Randall, Soundview

 

Demand as always.

 

Bx37: runs between Fordham plaza and Castle Hill/Zerega Avs

Route: 3rd Av, 184th St, Arthur Av, 182nd St, Boston Rd, Hoe/Vyse Avs, 174th St, Cross Bronx Exp, White Plains, Lacombe, Castle Hill

 

I'd use the Q44 for Fordham Plaza.

 

Interborough Routes

 

M100: extended to 262nd/Bway to replace Bx9 on Broadway

 

Demand as always. The M100 maybe to 225th Street or 231st & Riverdale Ave would be nice.

 

Heres something:

MTA subway contest: North Country 1, Yonkers 0

Metropolitan Transportation Authority officials have delivered a load of steady work and jobs over the next five years to an upstate city and a major manufacturer there with a nearly $600 million contract that left Yonkers and its rail car manufacturer waiting at the station.

 

The MTA’s move left Yonkers Mayor Mike Spano steamed.

 

MTA directors March 28 unanimously awarded a $599.47 million contract to Bombardier Transit Corp. in Plattsburgh for the purchase of 300 New York City Transit subway cars. The cars, to be delivered in 2016, will replace the city’s C Line cars that made their subterranean debut in 1964 with the New York World’s Fair.

 

A supplier of subway and commuter rail cars to metropolitan lines since 1981, Bombardier outbid its long-time competitor for the MTA’s lucrative capital-program business, Kawasaki Rail Car Inc. in Yonkers. MTA officials a year ago said the Kawasaki plant has turned out more than 1,900 subway and rail cars for New York City Transit and the Long Island Rail Road, totaling more than $2.78 billion in contracts.

 

With the MTA budgeting $748 million for subway car purchases in its current five-year capital program, Kawasaki two years ago partnered with the French conglomerate Alstom, an international builder of high-speed trains, power generation plants and electrical transmission grids, to bid on the contract. In February, ALSKAW L.L.C. submitted a best and final offer to the MTA of approximately $657 million.

 

Though an MTA selection committee ranked the Kawasaki proposal higher in technical merit, Bombardier’s lower price – about $57.5 million, or 8.8 percent, below ALSKAW’s bid – and its “acceptable” technical proposal won out. Bombardier’s and Kawasaki’s final prices were 18.5 percent and 5.7 percent, respectively, below New York City Transit’s in-house estimates.

 

The cars will be financed by $306 million in federal funds included in the MTA’s new capital plan and by other pending and future federal grants, according to state officials.

 

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo hailed the MTA choice as “a major win for the North Country and the entire region’s economy.” Bombardier executives said the 300-car order will keep 300 jobs at the company’s Plattsburgh plant and another 200 jobs for area suppliers. The contract will allow the company to consolidate its manufacturing and assembly operations in the city on the shore of Lake Champlain.

 

Led by French-Canadian executives, Bombardier is headquartered in Montreal, Quebec, where it began operations in the 1930s as a snowmobile manufacturer.

 

“We are one state and this shows how different regions of our state can support each other,” Cuomo said of the award.

 

At Yonkers City Hall, though, the Democratic mayor said he was “disappointed” by the MTA’s choice. The Adirondack region’s gain is a loss for the Hudson Valley region, where municipalities “pay millions of dollars in MTA taxes in support of its services,” Spano said in a press release.

 

“A Kawasaki procurement would have led to the creation of hundreds of jobs for Yonkers and tristate residents,” he said. “Instead, the MTA decided to go outside its own regional footprint for those jobs, which, in the end, is wrong.”

 

“The MTA would have done better by the taxpayers of this region if it had selected Kawasaki, which is not only the leading producer in the international railway car industry, but also a regional jobs engine.”

 

Kawasaki officials in Yonkers did not respond to a call for comment.

 

Kawasaki Rail Car, whose 100-year-old parent company, Kawasaki Heavy Industries Ltd., is based on Kobe, Japan, has had its U.S. corporate headquarters at the former Otis Elevator plant in Yonkers since 1985. The company a year ago announced a $25 million investment in its Yonkers facility at i.park Hudson, where as of last year it employed 375 full-time manufacturing workers producing about 180 rail cars each year.

 

Kawasaki Rail Car Inc. CEO Hiroji Iwasaki said the company considered several locations as a permanent base for its U.S. operations, but chose to stay in Yonkers because its location at the center of the Northeast passenger rail corridor proved most cost-effective.

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This has been discussed before,

Damn, going a little hard on the paint are we?

 

Ok, maybe not everyone should know whats up, (Public wise), but there ARE people who want to know. I of course am not the only person who wants to hear the same thing. I know quiet a few people holding scanners and radios and listen to whats up in the system.

But I get what your saying.

This is why i have a Scanner on me (Sometimes) to be able to know whats up in the system, when needed.

Rather then hearing "Due to a train problem" , I would like the truth.

Right, except no one said it was FASTRACK from the getgo! It was just a method they were using from FASTRACK.

 

Nvm. I got mixed up in one of Lance's post. Plus the "Fake Fastrack" comments.

Go ahead with the thread.

Source - http://www.mta.info/...en=120404-NYCT1

 

Thank You! However, the MTA mentioned that this is an alternative to Fastrack, it doesn't say that this is Fastrack.

Using as a foundation the success of our FASTRACK program in Manhattan and Downtown Brooklyn, MTA New York City Transit is launching another efficiency-based track improvement initiative.

But its good that the MTA is trying other ways to get the system fixed!

The MTA just said that they're learning from FASTRACK, so instead of shutting down a section of track every weekend for many weekends, they'll close an area for about a week straight. Honestly, this and thing is greater--so to speak--than Fastrack because this section of track is shut down at all times, not just nights.

 

They maybe learning from Fastrack, but surely this is not Fastrack, regardless of anyone saying it is. Unless the MTA notes it.

Fake Fastrack, thats fine.

It's actually not a standard go, it'sa differnt program funded with the same money as FastTrack.

 

And wheres the source about these being different types of Fastrack?

The only official Fastracks I will call Fastrack is the ones the MTA mark as Fastrack. Any other G/O as most people claim as "Fastrack" i don't consider it, only a standard General Order.... Just like most are saying the and bypassing stops in Queens. To me it is Standard G/O not Fastrack..