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What everyone is trying to say is that your information is sometimes so absurd that we don't even believe a mistake made by the MTA could have created it. Someone who can get an archived copy of MTA's alerts may want to confirm what was really there…

Jumps from street level all the way down to the track level…

Switching at Canal Street requires two reversals. Trains must turn back southbound to an express track, then turn northbound to the local track on the other side before returning to lower Manhattan and/or Brooklyn.

They should open parts of it for rock climbing. They'll raise some much needed funds by charging entry fees even if meager. LOL

Why do you think and trains are running on the Brighton line?

If the trains are running Brighton express, I can expect the extra travel time to be from people crowding around the middle asking too many stupid questions.

Well sorry, so I guess something wasn't right when I was simply pointing out an congruence between your announcement and one updated just one minute ago. For an agency that's trying to convey information to its passengers quickly (and it did just put up onthego.mta.info for Android devices), It would be reasonable that it got the update first. …or the problem got fixed and it was updated at 9:40 pm before your out-of-date information reached this site at 9:41 pm. Maybe you were operating a train and couldn't post immediately? Maybe you should consider taking over the job of the guy that's updating the site. Or I should submit a new app to the Google Play/Apple App Store that scrapes transit updates from NYCTF as well since that seems to be more reliably updated than the official site.

I don't see it on the MTA site.

My sarcasm meter isn't working on this one.

How many people will just stand there and chat while blocking everyone else? …or how about tourists taking pictures? I say 3 mph of that is going to be negated by people simply not moving.

God damn. This thread has turned into a flame war.

If cost-effectiveness were a prerequisite to all discussions, there would be no discussions. One of the enjoyable things about discussions is being able to talk about things with a few less restraints. I'm not going to shut my brain down and stop planning for my retirement simply because I don't have a job.

In addition, I'd like readers to consider this scenario: the goes up 2 Avenue and ends up skipping 49 Street full time. This station which should have been an express station (given how the MTA handles Broadway currently) loses a third or more of the trains passing through it. On average, a third of the riders would need to make a transfer and/or walk from another station. This single station is used by over 8 million riders annually (and rising). To affect nearly the same amount of people in an outer borough like Brooklyn, you'd need to do something like make 2 out of every 3 trains run express between 9 Avenue and Bay Parkway. My point: express service is a disservice to riders getting on and off in the central business district, but a useful service outside of there provided there is a ridership to support it.

The IND designed their lines to carry people from far-flung corners of the 5 boroughs to the central business district. It made sense to skip a lot of stops between the ends of the lines and the central business district, and it made sense to concentrate all the stops everywhere else. Have a look at the Queens Boulevard line and the 8 Avenue line.

Are we talking about the same 14 Street?

The track map is far from accurate. The person who drew it took a lot of shortcuts. In particular, the platforms aren't even to scale.

It looks like the 14 Street station was designed to be expandable to an express stop. The planners might have fantasized about taking over the PATH tunnels along 6 Avenue and making some changes to enable express trains to stop at 14 Street. Or they could just build a lower level platform and connect them with staircases.

It must have been a pretty serious issue to prevent all 3 tracks from being used. Something tells me this problem lies on the tracks…

I was pointing out the fact that Wally's reason for building an elevated line had an equal and opposite reason for not building one. I couldn't care less what ended up on 2 Avenue as long as they get the job done.

And then when a blizzard comes and covers all the exposed tracks to snow…

I was taking the downtown to Bleecker Street. All I could say was… the express tracks were constipating.

And then there are lawsuits, rising costs of materials, and overpaid/unnecessary personnel.

I've never been up there, so the track maps on NYCSubway.org must have been wrong for quite a while…

How does this even work? Aren't the express tracks not continuous?

Yeah… and why can't trains stop at any of the other stations in between?