Tokkemon

East Side Access is suspended?! Though, really, what's the point of that project?

I looked and can't seem to find any data on that. Anyone got any ideas?

Guys, sending the down Water street makes far more sense in terms of population distribution. I didn't realize this until I actually started working on Wall Street. The population concentration of actual workers (not the stockbrokers at NYSE or the gobs of tourists looking at said NYSE) is heavily concentrated toward the shores of the island. This is why (among other reasons) that the Nassau St line is so little used, because its right in the middle of a dead spot in the neighborhood, near Broad Street. Having a dedicated subway line more toward the shore would aleviate the congestion on the IRT down there (yes the , as well) and give the UES the option for Western AND Eastern Lower Manhattan. This may not seem like a big deal, especially since everything is so tightly packed down there, but every block closer you can get counts. And when there's so many skycrapers and a non-grid street system, walking somewhere that looks like a short distance on a map may be far longer on the ground than it seems on paper. And, of course, Hanover Square needs a subway stop, there's no question about that one.

Great maps, terrible ideas.

Why were the windows covered anyway?

You guys seriously need to study Subways that are not in New York. Almost every single one of them uses standard two-track lines and they get along just fine and their capacity is very plentiful because the trains run close together. Also: 2nd Ave is not a trunk line (at least not north of 59th St) so making it multi tracked is useless unless a grander scheme (IND CPW-style) was envisioned where trains would be going in and out of the outer boroughs without hindrence where express service would be useful. Most cities don't need that, and as the line is built now, it doesn't need it either. In 15 years, if capacity is full up then maybe they can build a second tunnel underneed the current one, but for now this is what we got. Deal with it. Someone should seriously look into making these tunnels cost less, though. I read somewhere that the SAS is the most expensive railway per mile in history, above ground or below. It's ridiculous.

I cannot afford one so it's not an option. I do think Apple has hit the end of the road as a "leader" in the tech industry. The natural progression from iPod to iPhone to iPad has run it's course and I doubt there is much else they can innovate in that line without coming up with something that we (literally) have not seen before. Maybe Apple has an ace up it's sleeve, but with Jobs gone I highly doubt it.

Okay here's one: All of Manhattan Exploded. Reroute every train via the line to keep service intact.

If this actually happened the Subway would shut down like on 9/11. This is just too much of a problem to warrant a large-scale change of service.

I highly doubt they were maintained. So the only step they need to skip is the TBM, but who knows? At least something was done.

*facepalm*

The , assuming built as designed, DOES go to Midtown. Right under the Chrysler Building.

What if the replaced the in Brooklyn and the terminated at Whitehall?

New York City will never have a loop line *until* a unified subway system is built through New Jersey. Otherwise you're just looping around half of the city. Of course, because of all the ridiculous red tape, that won't happen.

London, Moscow, Chicago, Tokyo, Sydney, Singapore, Beijing, Madrid, Berlin, Seoul, Shanghai seem to do just fine. For more info: http://mic-ro.com/me...metrorings.html

I like paragraphs. You should learn to like them too.

Precisely.

*laughs heartily at the partisan POV of each version of history being presented here*

The US is also not part of Europe. Anarchy and totalitarianism would have never happened here, even if people wanted it.

Sure it is, you're just stuck in your boxes again.

Slightly silly question, but if they need to, why can't they just build a second level below the currently constructed one to expand capacity in the future? A set of express tracks down there would work quite well I would think, not too dissimilar to the Lex Ave line.

Lower Manhattan is already saturated with lines. Why not send it to Brooklyn from the Lower East Side?

Well I hope the MTA gets it right this time.

Actually they're all about providing service to the citizens of New York. How they do that should be as cheap as possible, but its clear that they don't know how to do that very well.

Had far more to do with Real Estate values than anything. Robert Moses had no vested interest in tearing it down.