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One person was killed after an out of service Nassau Inter-County Express bus and a passenger vehicle collided in Old Westbury Wednesday, Nassau police said.
Police say a car traveling northbound on Glen Cove Road hit a Nassau Inter-County Express bus head-on near I U Willets Road in Old Westbury.
The crash happened at around 4 p.m., said Nassau police Det. Lt. Richard LeBrun. Glen Cove Road is closed in both directions from Hillside Avenue to IU Willets Road, police said in a traffic advisory news release.
A 12th grade student in the East Williston School District was reportedly killed after a car and bus collided. A NICE spokesman said the bus driver sustained non-life-threatening injuries.
NICE spokesman Mark Smith said in an emailed statement: "This afternoon an out-of-service NICE Bus traveling south on Glen Cove Road was stuck by a vehicle heading northbound. There were no passengers on the bus at the time. The NICE Bus driver was taken to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. We are cooperating closely with the local authorities in their ongoing investigation."
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/old-westbury-nice-bus-crash-fatal-1.50532141
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This was confirmed to be 1897 which hit several parked cars on Merrick Road just before 5 p.m. on Thursday. Police said there were no serious injuries from the crash.
Some cars were totaled, at least one where the impact from the bus completely reversed the car's position on the curb. One of the light posts that lines Merrick Road was flattened on the street.
A spokesperson for NICE would not discuss the accident while they are still investigating. However, witnesses say the driver's brake failed, causing him to plow into parked cars.
A witness also saw sparks coming from the bottom of the bus and thought it would go up in flames.
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This happened near Bellmore Avenue and Merrick Road in Bellmore at around 5:30 p.m today. It looks like 1897 was impacted:
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On 12/5/2021 at 10:18 AM, MTABusTransitFanner said:
1800 officially retired
1800 is not retired at this time.
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If the tracking markers are correct, 1930 has now returned to service:
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Not nearly as many smashed windows in this auction as compared to past ones. Also, at least one bus is marked in the auction as being able to start.
6 hours ago, Railfanner Jake said:https://www.auctionsinternational.com/m/#/auction/nassau-county-dpw-mta-ny-27687-27687 Here we go, February auctions are off to the races. Includes what I assume are the last of the 1700s : 1772, 1708, 1726, 1704, 1752, 1777, 1784, 1785, 1770, 1778, 1730, 1794, 1759, 1728, 1754, 1757, 1721, 1712, 1767, 1734, 1718, and 1715. They also ditched two 2014 caravans and five 2016 transit vans. Oddly enough, the ARBOC spirit of mobiltys are staying.
Are you going to re-upload some of the images here from the auction like I've done in past threads for archive purposes?
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On Saturday morning, before service was suspended for the afternoon, NICE was only running Gilligs, and only very few of them, across the entire system:
QuoteThe New York area is expecting up to 18" of snow today. As a result, we will have significant systemwide delays and detours and possible service suspensions due to dangerous/unpassable road conditions. Please plan extra time for your trip and use the GoMobile app for real time arrival at your bus stop
8:00 am
Currently we are experiecing SIGNIFICANT systemwide delays...as a result we are running HOURLY HEADWAY SERVICE ON EVERY ROUTE (1 bus per hour). PLEASE USE THE GOMOBILE APP FOR ARRIVAL AT YOUR BUS STOP.
n20. buses will NOT make stops at the Roslyn Clock tower due to impassable roads
n23. buses will NOT make stops at the Roslyn LIRR due to road conditions
buses will NOT make stops in Port Washington between the LIRR station on Main Street and Manorhaven.
n25 buses will NOT make stops on Community Drive due to impassable roads
n21: service is SUSPENDED from Northern Boulevard to Glen Cove due to road conditions.
n31: buses will NOT make stops West Broadway due to road conditions
n54. buses will NOT make stops on Washington AvenueOn Saturday evening, very limited service was re-instated:
Quote5:30 pm
Based on current road conditions we are reinstating hourly service on the following routes, please use the GoMobile app for real time arrival at your stop.
n4
n6 (no service at Hempstead Terminal due to road conditions)
n22 and n24 (please note buses are bypassing Roosevelt Field, as the terminal has not been plowed yet)
n25
n40 (no service at Hempstead Terminal due to road conditions)0 -
On 12/25/2021 at 12:38 PM, Orion Was Here said:
Well Orion VII NG are back at RVC depot that lit!
If you are going to post information like this, please include pictures next time. I got them this time.
There are 6 buses on the side of the depot (including 1768) and one bus in the back (1736):
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On 12/23/2021 at 1:44 PM, Cait Sith said:
That was a lot faster than I thought, damn....
At least for the last few 1700s, the inspections were up this December and NICE was not going to have those renewed so the scheduling worked out this way.
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The ridership numbers for 2020 have been released for NICE. The system averaged 46,374 weekday riders with the average operating expense per passenger trip on a bus (not Able-ride) being $8.03.
https://www.transit.dot.gov/sites/fta.dot.gov/files/transit_agency_profile_doc/2020/20206.pdf
Year - Ridership
2011 - 101,981
2012 - 99,754
2013 - 95,854
2014 - 95,197
2015 - 90,936
2016 - 90,457
2017 - 84,969
2018 - 77,333
2019 - 79,530
2020 - 46,3740 -
20 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:
n20, n21 - Buses will also stop at the north side of Great Neck LIRR
Some drivers coming into Great Neck already do this anyway so that they can drop off passengers and then go right to parking on N Station Plaza for layover. I guess this change makes it consistent.
20 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:n24, n78, n79 - Buses will stop with the n80 at Hicksville LIRR (south of the train station, on Newbridge Road)
There was some conversation behind this during the last public meeting. The accusation was that buses in the current n24/n78/n79 bus stop under the tracks were blocking a lane of traffic while they were there and it was disruptive to traffic on Newbridge Rd. One of the members of the panel raised this and suggested that there needs to be some sort of a dedicated area for buses.
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3 hours ago, Bx41 boi said:
why doesn't NICE have 60 Footers?
51 minutes ago, Bx41 boi said:what models are they?
Related information from myself is posted above your questions:
On 12/9/2021 at 7:45 PM, User said:5) Per the CEO, NICE is looking to get additional articulated buses next year (they are "pleased" with the New Flyers) and expand them onto the n4 route as well.
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A couple of updates:
1) The contract with Veolia has been extended to 2024 by Nassau County - no community meeting held to vote on that. "It was extended per the emergency of the pandemic" - Jack Khzouz
2) No service to Manhattan with NICE is planned anytime soon. That proposal/study that came out a few years back is not being actioned at this time.
3) Mitchel Field is being outfitted with charging stations in collaboration with New Flyer and ABB. One station can charge two buses.
4) The plan is that, even though the XE40s are slated for 240 miles of range on paper, NICE will count on 180 miles of range for a day of service which should cover a shift. There will also be a service vehicle with a charger added to the maintenance department to use if the bus loses a charge out in the field.
5) Per the CEO, NICE is looking to get additional articulated buses next year (they are "pleased" with the New Flyers) and expand them onto the n4 route as well.
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Also, a random note since there was discussion about cut routes above, in this evening's community meeting, PinePowerLI asked for the n45 to be restored.
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New Flyer of America Inc. has received a new contract from the Nassau Inter County Express (NICE) for six battery-electric Xcelsior CHARGE NG™40-foot buses.
The five-year contract includes options for up to 30 battery-electric Xcelsior CHARGE NG™ 40-foot buses.
With the order, NICE becomes the seventh agency in New York State to purchase zero-emission buses from New Flyer. NICE is the local bus system serving Nassau County, parts of western Suffolk County and eastern portions Queens, New York, providing more than 20 million passenger trips per year.
“NFI is steadily increasing its EV presence on the east coast, and this is directly due to aggressive zero-emission leadership and action by transit agencies across New York State,” said Paul Soubry, president and CEO, NFI. “NICE is an established leader in sustainable mobility and continues to build momentum. Since 2015, NFI has delivered 115 low-emission compressed natural gas buses to NICE. Together, through the transition from low to zero-emission mobility, we’re building cleaner, quieter, more livable communities across Long Island – with the added benefit of each EV delivering up to $125,000 in maintenance savings and up to $400,000 in fuel savings over its 12-year vehicle lifespan. This is smart mobility in motion.”
New Flyer says its Xcelsior CHARGE NG™ battery-electric buses provide up to 525kWh of power and 250 miles of range on a single charge. Introduced in 2021, the Xcelsior CHARGE NG™ bus incorporates high-energy batteries that extend range up to 13 percent, advanced protective battery packaging for easy install and simpler serviceability and a new lightweight electric traction drive system with up to 90 percent energy recovery, according to the company.
“Nassau Inter-County Express has selected New Flyer as our new battery-electric bus vendor,” said Jack Khzouz, CEO, NICE. “We plan on deploying these energy-efficient vehicles for the launch of our new bus rapid transit system, which will provide Nassau County with zero emissions travel between new lifestyle and employment centers. They will help NICE improve accessibility and connectivity within Nassau County.”
Other Articles:
https://ngtnews.com/new-yorks-nice-places-order-for-up-to-36-zero-emission-new-flyer-transit-buses
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The Orions in this auction sold for between $1,525 and $2,550.
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If there is a budget gap, what do you think the first routes to be cut will be?
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Lot: https://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/nassau-county-mta-dpw-ny-26848-26848
Located in Cedar Creek Park, up for auction are:
- 1x 2017 Ford Explorer XLT SUV
- 6x 2004 Orion V CNG buses
- 14x 2009 Orion VII NG CNG buses
The numbers are as follows:
1648
1649
1673
1678
1696
1697
1705
1707
1710
1711
1716
1717
1724
1727
1735
1739
1740
1744
1755
1775
Here are some photos I have selected from the auctions for display:
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3 hours ago, lil hershey said:
It can't the bus is 11'2
3 hours ago, SevenEleven said:Depends on whether 10'6 is the absolute clearance or not. (If it's not, then it depends where the sign is posted and the physical attribute of the overpass)
Reason for the ask: I found this online (go to 1:02:05) - an XN40 makes it under the LIRR tracks in Massapequa Park which is not part of normal routing:
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Could an XN40 clear an underpass that is marked as 10'6 in height?
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11 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:
How would you all rate NICE’s maintenance and service overall nowadays?
I never had a reason to be in Nassau County a few years back so I never experienced NICE at it’s worst, but I heard it was bad. I only started using NICE starting from September 2020 and so far my experience has been decent to my surprise. I haven’t experienced breakdowns and or missing runs, so it seems that they have gotten somewhat better compared to before.
From what I recall breakdowns were a common thing even under Long Island Bus. I do certainly remember PinePower lol making his videos back then about how terrible LI Bus was. I know Nassau was being stingy back then so there was only so much the MTA could do.
A quick search on YouTube brought up this recent video that took place a few weeks ago so looks like they are still happening:
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2008 and a few others are showing up more often during rush hours (yellow signifies the Gilligs):
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2007 has a working tracker:
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An n35 driver went the wrong way today leaving Roosevelt Field and followed n43 routing so they had to turn around in the NYU Langone Ambulatory Surgery Center parking lot on Zeckendorf Blvd.
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20 hours ago, NBTA said:
There’s a link to this?
Yes, a web link exists for this. It has not been shared here.
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High school student killed after collision with NICE bus in Old Westbury
in Nassau Inter-County Express
Posted
The teen driver crossed the median in a BMW and hit the bus: