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  1. On 7/15/2021 at 7:25 PM, MTABusTransitFanner said:

    Ah I see, btw NICE buses by numbers are actually trackable on the website, all you gotta do is hover your mouse over one of the buses you're tracking and you get get something like this: 19402222(ignore the 2222)

    Going route by route can be a bit of an annoyance - I made my own tracker to show all routes and split by bus model:

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  2. Lot: https://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/nassau-county-mta-ny25061-25061

    Located in Cedar Creek Park, up for auction are:

    - 3x 2007 Honda Civics

    - 6x 2010 International 320 Able-Ride vehicles

    - 4x 2014 Dodge Caravans

    - 1x 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee

    - 13x 2009 Orion VII NG CNG buses (1700 is 2008 if you count that). The numbers are as follows:

    1700 

    1702 

    1706 

    1738 

    1743 

    1746 

    1747 

    1749

    1750

    1760

    1774

    1780

    1796

     

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  3. The plan to have the n15 routing skip Rockville Centre train station has been pulled back:

    https://twitter.com/theNICEbus/status/1387863979440148482

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    #NICEALERT n15 We have heard from many of you in the past couple of weeks. Based on customer feedback, we have decided to keep the n15 routing into the Rockville Centre train station as is. The n15 will continue to stop at the station as part of our Spring Service change.

     

  4. Why is NICE testing a 35-foot instead of a 40-foot bus? They should just put a demo XE40 in service at some point and see how it performs with all-day usage around the system. Ideally, it should be able to handle a driver's paddle without needing a re-charge at the depot.

    The other question is whether NICE would/could place electric chargers in different areas around the system for regeneration. For example, Hempstead Transit Center might not be such a bad idea for layovers.

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    NEW HYDE PARK, NY — Four people were injured in after the driver of a Nassau Inter-County Express bus they were riding in hit the vehicle's brakes to avoid a collision in New Hyde Park on Wednesday, Nassau County police said.

    The bus was cut off by a car at the intersection of New Hyde Park Road and Jericho Turnpike just before 8:30 a.m., police said, adding that the two vehicles did not make contact.

    Three people were transported to local hospitals for medical treatment, but one refused medical attention at the scene, police said.

    Emergency medical technicians from Nassau's police ambulance unit, as well as the New Hyde Park Fire Department responded, police said.

    https://patch.com/new-york/newhydepark/4-injured-nice-bus-cut-car-new-hyde-park-pd

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    Three passengers aboard a Nassau Inter-County Express (NICE) bus were transported to a local hospital with minor injuries after a morning rush-hour incident in New Hyde Park on Wednesday, Nassau County police said.

    Police said the bus was "cut off" by another vehicle, forcing the bus driver to "hit the brakes" hard — causing four passengers to fall.

    The fourth passenger was treated at the scene and released, police said.

    The incident took place near the intersection of New Hyde Park Road and Jericho Turnpike and was reported in a 911 call at 8:23 a.m., police said. Police said the bus and the other vehicle did not make contact and there was no reported physical damage to the bus or other vehicle.

    Firefighters and EMTs from the New Hyde Park Fire Department, as well as a police ambulance, responded to the scene, officials said.

    The bus was on the N25 route, which runs between Lynbrook and Great Neck.

    "It is not known the exact number of riders who were on that bus this morning, but that route typically carries between 25 to 30 passengers at that time and in that location," a spokesman for the bus company, Mark L. Smith, said in an email.

    He added, "NICE safety members are continuing to review the incident."

    https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/nice-bus-passengers-hurt-1.50200141

  6. https://www.nicebus.com/Passenger-Information/Winter2021

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    SERVICE UPDATES LISTED BELOW

    Passenger travel has changed dramatically in the past 12 months due to the Covid-19 pandemic. As a result, we are continually monitoring ridership patterns and making adjustments to offer the most convenient service to as many customers as possible. 

    We've made some adjustments to our Spring schedules that will provide faster and more frequent service. We are continuing the Stop Consolidation Plan to speed up your trip on the following routes: n4, n15, and n35. By eliminating seldom used stops along these routes, we can speed up trips upwards of 10 minutes. Additionally, we have changed the routing on the n27 and n15 between Hempstead and Roosevelt Field to better meet customer demand. By asking passengers to use the n16 and n35 between the Mall and Hempstead Transit Center, we are able to reduce overlapping service and optimize the network so that we can provide better service for riders systemwide. The n15 will now make rush-hour trips from Hempstead to Mineola via County Seat Drive. Please see details on these changes below. 

    To ensure the health and safety of everyone on board our buses, masks are required at all times. 


    Spring Highlights: 


    • n1 trips serving Jamaica will bypass the Green Acres Mall and Valley Stream LIRR station due to low service demand. For service to the Mall or Railroad, please take an n1 trip that starts or stops at Hempstead/Elmont Road. Please note that we have added some am local trips Elmont trips to accommodate the Mall and Railroad 

    • n4 to speed up trips; some stops have been eliminated in Queens both east and westbound. For local service in Queens, please use the Q85. 

    • n4X, n6X, n22X trips remain suspended. n6 trips have been added to the local to help with social distancing.

    • n15 service ends in Hempstead, except weekday rush-hours. During rush-hour, the n15 will continue to Mineola via County Seat Drive. There will be no service to/from the Mall; please use the n16 or n35. For stops along Clinton Road, please use the n35. In Rockville Center, the n15 will bypass the LIRR station and be rerouted to Merrick Road. 

    • n16 frequency has been improved, now running every 30 minutes. Local trips will ONLY serve the east end of Nassau Community College (Life Science Building) and will not serve the College Store, Bradley Hall, or the Gates. The n16 will also be rerouted to serve former n27 stops on Oak Street. In Rockville Centre, buses will begin/end at the LIRR station and will NOT serve Park or Lincoln south of Merrick Road. 

    • n16NCC and n16X trips remain suspended for 2nd semester.

    • n20H will NOT make trips onto the LIU campus. To access the campus, please board/deboard on Northern Blvd.

    • n20H/n21 schedules have been coordinated to provide trips every 15 minutes between Great Neck and Roslyn during the am/pm rush. 

    • n23 we have added weekend am and pm trips to expand service. 

    • n27 will no longer run between Hempstead Transit Center and Roosevelt Field. For service to the Mall or HTC, please use the n16 or n35. For trips to Social Service, please use a scheduled transfer to the n16. We have increased the frequency of trips between Roosevelt Field and Glen Cove to every 30 minutes during the am/pm rush in both directions. 

    • n31/32 buses will now start and end at Beach 20th Street & Plainview Avenue. The Crest Rd & Seagirt Blvd stop will be eliminated.

    Please note our new printable timetables have been streamlined to show key timepoints along the route. All buses will make all stops as usual unless otherwise noted. Timetables also include seating capacity projections based on historic ridership data. 

    Also worth noting, they combined the n16/27 and n25/58 schedules:

    https://www.nicebus.com/getattachment/Passenger-Information/Winter2021/n16-3-5-21.pdf.aspx

    https://www.nicebus.com/getattachment/Passenger-Information/Winter2021/n25-3-5-21.pdf.aspx

  7. On 11/30/2020 at 7:40 PM, Mtatransit said:

    Looks like NICE bus has finally stabilized its ridership. The period between 2013-2017 was brutal, with equipment break downs and service reductions. 30,000 riders were lost unfortunately. 

    I still firmly believe that if NICE had the 9 million dollars that the MTA had, the system in Nassau will be much better than LIB could ever provide.

    Here is the trend in numbers:

    Year - Ridership

    2011 - 101,981
    2012 - 99,754
    2013 - 95,854
    2014 - 95,197
    2015 - 90,936
    2016 - 90,457
    2017 - 84,969
    2018 - 77,333
    2019 - 79,530

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    Suffolk County is beginning an effort to replace its public transit buses with electric models, a project that will be expensive but could improve the county’s air quality, which routinely rates among the worst in the state.

    The county is preparing to solicit proposals this year from manufacturers for the first batch of electric buses, which have zero tailpipe emissions and could begin serving riders as early as next year, according to Darnell Tyson, chief deputy commissioner of the county Public Works Department.

    The plan comes at the behest of Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, who announced last year the state wanted Suffolk County Transportation and four other transit agencies to upgrade a quarter of their public transit buses to electric by 2025 and the rest by 2035 as part of the state’s efforts to combat global warming.

    That means swapping out the 160 or so vehicles that make up Suffolk’s fleet of "fixed-route" buses, which have predetermined stops and timetables. Most of those are powered by diesel fuel, while the rest are diesel-electric hybrids.

    With a new electric bus going for around $900,000, the cost to upgrade the entire fleet will probably reach $144 million, Suffolk spokesman Derek Poppe said. The state and federal governments will probably provide the bulk of the funding, with the county paying a yet-undetermined amount as well, he said.

    The investment will be worth it, environmental experts said, given the benefits to Suffolk’s air quality and the environment.

    The American Lung Association has given the county’s air quality a failing grade in recent years for its high levels of ground-level ozone — a pollutant created by sources including car emissions, which can cause health problems.

    Traffic is partially to blame for Suffolk's air issues, but weather and geography also play a part, said Michael Seilback, national assistant vice president for state public policy at the American Lung Association. For example, westerly winds routinely blow pollution spewed by smokestacks in the Midwest to Long Island.

    "Transportation is a major contributor to the region's air pollution problems, and diesel vehicles are a large portion of that pollution," Seilback said. "Anything we could do to electrify fleets across the board is going to help Suffolk County residents breathe cleaner air."

    Nassau County’s air might be dirty, too, but the county does not monitor ozone levels, said Adrienne Esposito, executive director of the Citizens Campaign for the Environment, a New York and Connecticut advocacy group with an office in Farmingdale.

    The Nassau Inter-County Express was not one of the bus systems tapped by the state to upgrade to electric. NICE chief executive Jack Khzouz said the system's 320 fixed-route buses already run on compressed natural gas, a fuel that is cleaner than diesel. The county probably will not upgrade its entire fleet to electric, Khzouz said, but it does plan to buy some electric models.

    Vehicle emissions are also warming the planet. Transportation caused more than a quarter of the greenhouse gas emissions in the United States in 2018, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

    All the more reason to welcome the initiative in Suffolk, said Esposito, who called the county’s bus electrification plan "a good investment for the environment and public health."

    But the effort will not solve Suffolk’s air issues by itself.

    Fan Tong, a former project scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California who has studied bus electrification, said public transit makes up only 5% to 10% of transportation emissions in the United States. The main source of those emissions in places like Suffolk and elsewhere, Tong said, is the sheer number of people driving cars.

    Suffolk’s plan "will make a positive impact, but it will not completely solve the problem," he said.

    The way to address that problem, Esposito said, is to figure out how to get more Long Islanders onto public trains and buses — perhaps a tall order for a region as car-dependent as Long Island.

    "The real issue is providing a mass transit system that is affordable and reliable," she said. "Right now, we don’t have one that is either of those things."

    Tong also noted that, in general, the electricity that powers electric buses may itself derive from fossil fuels. In parts of the country that rely heavily on fossil fuels for electricity, electrifying buses may not on balance benefit air quality and the environment, Tong said. But he said electric buses in Suffolk would provide an environmental benefit, given the sources of electricity in New York.

    Natural gas is the main source of Long Island’s electricity, followed by solar power and oil, according to Elizabeth Flagler, a spokeswoman for PSEG Long Island. She noted renewable energy will make up a greater proportion of the electricity sources by 2035.

    Suffolk’s electrification plan will face challenges.

    Tong noted electric buses can drive fewer miles before needing to recharge than diesel buses before they run out of gas. But electric vehicle batteries are getting stronger, he said, and such issues also can be addressed by careful route planning by the county.

    Suffolk also will need to build charging ports at its bus depots, which could cost an additional $1.8 million, Poppe said.

    Hurdles notwithstanding, observers said the effort to electrify vehicles in Suffolk is worth it, even if the benefits to air quality and the environment are relatively modest.

    "Everything’s incremental. There’s no wand we can wave and say, ‘Now these buses are cleaner, therefore the pollution problem’s gone,’ " Seilback said. "But it’s absolutely going to move us in the right direction."

    Link: https://www.newsday.com/long-island/transportation/suffolk-electric-buses-1.50121065

  9. I count at least five Orion V CNG buses still at the former Rockville Centre Depot as well as some minibuses all lined up at the south driveway on Banks Ave:

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    I looked up 1673 on Auctions International and the lots where I think it would have been included did not include 1673:

    https://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/nassau-mta-9931-9931/page/1

    https://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/nassau-county-mta-ny-22187-22187/page/1

     

    Are these owned by someone else or are they being kept for a reason by NICE? Should we expect to see them auctioned off soon? Any ideas?

    Anyone miss these?

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