Shortline Bus Posted February 20, 2010 Share #1 Posted February 20, 2010 Has anyone been personally impacted by the Beeline bus cuts that took affect on Feb 15, 2010? I know John Q Pine created a recent thread on this topic but now the cuts have started just seeing if anyone been affected. The biggest cuts was the ending of the Airlink between Westchester County Airport and White Plains, The #12 service north of Armonk. And of course the BXM4c rush hour extended service to/from Wall Street. Personally i felt that the BXM4c was justified since those riders can transfer to the underused Bronx based BXM18 via metrocard transfer. On the other hand i felt Bee Line exces did a terrible job in adding all weekend bus service to/from Westchester Aiport. Not to mention it made no sense to even run the #12 at all on weekend since SUNY Purchase now has their own shutte bus/charter bus provider that takes students and other riders to/from White Plains MNRR station. I won't be shocked by this time next year, Bee Line exces will want to totally end the #12 all together.:tdown::mad: On the #12 northbound service being cut Northbound to/from only Armonk, another bad decision. There was enough ridership to run the #12 at least weekdays between Yorktown Heights or at least Mt Kisco and White Plains. Also which was a shame is that i always saw the #12 use full-size 40-foot buses. Instead if they had used short 35-foot buses used for instance on the #16 Peekskill-Jefferson Valley Line and the shuttle buses, it could save money and prevent this drastic cut to the #12. Plus the alternative between White plains and Jefferson Valley/Maphoic which is the rush hour only #77 could have run an extra midday northbound trip to make up for ending #12 service. Finally any reactions, to the above topics or the canning of weekday supplemental "13B" Benedict Ave service on that Port Chester-White Plains-Tarrytown line as all '13's' now run on route 119(Tarrytown Road) as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramps Posted February 20, 2010 Share #2 Posted February 20, 2010 It costs less money to drive smaller buses ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted February 21, 2010 It costs less money to drive smaller buses ? I mean it would save money on gas usage using 'smaller buses' like those on the #16 Peekskill-Jefferson Valley route and the shuttle buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted February 21, 2010 Share #4 Posted February 21, 2010 I'm not really a fan of the BxM4C since it runs parallel to Metro-North. However, some of the areas it serves aren't close to Metro-North stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 21, 2010 Share #5 Posted February 21, 2010 I will be affected by missing seeing it in midtown. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted February 21, 2010 I will be affected by missing seeing it in midtown. - A Only the Downtown/Wall St Beeline(white plains BXM4c)which only ran during rush hours was cut so don't worry. The regular full time BXM4c between 23rd St/5th Avenue and White Plains is still running. Plus the BXM4c riders could transfer to the bus BXM18 or M1 and M6 via Metrocard as well so i am not angry at Beeline exces at this cut. I am mad at them for the #12 cuts in upper Westchester though:mad:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted April 12, 2010 Share #7 Posted April 12, 2010 Sorry to bring back topic, there is another info. http://www.westchestergov.com/jtransportation/pdfs/public_proposed_summer_2010_service_change.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share #8 Posted April 13, 2010 ok yuki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 20, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted April 20, 2010 sorry to bring older topic but any word on what is the fate of the 4c? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted April 20, 2010 Share #10 Posted April 20, 2010 BxM4C is one of best express bus in Westchester County. If BxM4C was cut, with taking away BxM4A, BxM4 Woodlawn (formelly BxM4B) will be crowded. When I was at public hearing, I suggested transfer BxM4C service to Bus Co. Some BxM4C riders would paid higher fare to save BxM4C. BxM4C need to stay because it is cheap alternative than Metro-North. With (MTA)'s reduction on Metro-North, BxM4C riders will have long travel time either way. If BxM4C was cut, MTA should cooperate with WCDOT Bee-Line Bus. Bee-Line Buses that meeting MTA Express Bus in Yonkers/Bronx will get free transfer to express bus at no additional charge by using MetroCard. Here are information I got at Bee-Line Public Hearing. ____________________________________________________________ BxM4C: Discontinue route. 1603 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $1,354,017 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $2,708,034 Alternate: W20/W21 to Woodlawn or Bedford Park Blvd. with transfer to subway, or BxM4 Bus. Also Metro-North Railroad to Grand Central. Loop : Discontinue route. 179 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $216,262 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $543,624. Alternative: W3, which will be adjusted to serve Loop riders or W12 to the Manhattanville Road Area. Loop : Discontinue route. 80 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $194,722 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $389,444 Alternative: Loop from White Plains station which is extended or W13 which is adding service on the Tarrytown-White Plains corridor. W92: Do not implement seasonal service between White Plains & Playland 20 to 50 passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $103,512 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $103,512. Alternative: W13 with W76 transfer. W18/W31: Decrease service by one-half allowing one bus to serve both routes. 50 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $89,716 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $179,432. Alternative: Schedule Change Only. W7: Reduce Weekday Midday service to 30 minute headway. 400 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $89,575 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $179,150 W42: Discontinue Weekday Evening and Saturday service on White Plains Rd in the Bronx bet. E. 233rd & E. 241st Sts. 200 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $65,763 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $131,526 Alternative: Transfer to Bx39 bus or Subway, both at E. 241st St. W14: Discontinue service to Bloomingdale Road in White Plains. 22 Passengers Affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $51,105 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $102,210. Alternate: Use stops at Westchester Avenue & Paulding Street or Mamaroneck Avenue & Bryant Avenue. Loop (:P/(D): Reduce service by one trip each. 25 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $21,785 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $43,570. Alternative: Schedule Change Only. W6: Do not implement seasonal service bet. White Plains & Valhalla. 50 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $8,324 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $8,324. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 20, 2010 Author Share #11 Posted April 20, 2010 Yuki the BXM4c is the only Manhattan 'express' route in the Bee Line system LOL. The other 'express' routes charge local fares. BxM4C is one of best express bus in Westchester County.If BxM4C was cut, with taking away BxM4A, BxM4 Woodlawn (formelly BxM4B) will be crowded. When I was at public hearing, I suggested transfer BxM4C service to Bus Co. Some BxM4C riders would paid higher fare to save BxM4C. BxM4C need to stay because it is cheap alternative than Metro-North. With (MTA)'s reduction on Metro-North, BxM4C riders will have long travel time either way. If BxM4C was cut, MTA should cooperate with WCDOT Bee-Line Bus. Bee-Line Buses that meeting MTA Express Bus in Yonkers/Bronx will get free transfer to express bus at no additional charge by using MetroCard. Here are information I got at Bee-Line Public Hearing. ____________________________________________________________ BxM4C: Discontinue route. 1603 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $1,354,017 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $2,708,034 Alternate: W20/W21 to Woodlawn or Bedford Park Blvd. with transfer to subway, or BxM4 Bus. Also Metro-North Railroad to Grand Central. Loop : Discontinue route. 179 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $216,262 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $543,624. Alternative: W3, which will be adjusted to serve Loop riders or W12 to the Manhattanville Road Area. Loop : Discontinue route. 80 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $194,722 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $389,444 Alternative: Loop from White Plains station which is extended or W13 which is adding service on the Tarrytown-White Plains corridor. W92: Do not implement seasonal service between White Plains & Playland 20 to 50 passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $103,512 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $103,512. Alternative: W13 with W76 transfer. W18/W31: Decrease service by one-half allowing one bus to serve both routes. 50 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $89,716 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $179,432. Alternative: Schedule Change Only. W7: Reduce Weekday Midday service to 30 minute headway. 400 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $89,575 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $179,150 W42: Discontinue Weekday Evening and Saturday service on White Plains Rd in the Bronx bet. E. 233rd & E. 241st Sts. 200 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $65,763 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $131,526 Alternative: Transfer to Bx39 bus or Subway, both at E. 241st St. W14: Discontinue service to Bloomingdale Road in White Plains. 22 Passengers Affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $51,105 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $102,210. Alternate: Use stops at Westchester Avenue & Paulding Street or Mamaroneck Avenue & Bryant Avenue. Loop (:P/(D): Reduce service by one trip each. 25 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $21,785 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $43,570. Alternative: Schedule Change Only. W6: Do not implement seasonal service bet. White Plains & Valhalla. 50 Passengers affected. 2010 Half-Year Saving: $8,324 2010 Proj. Full Year Saving: $8,324. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted April 21, 2010 Share #12 Posted April 21, 2010 I meant best express bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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