3rd Avenue El Posted March 21, 2011 Share #1 Posted March 21, 2011 this thread will be dedicated to the old third avenue el and the trains who once saw service on that mighty line. please post only pics of the 3rd avenue el or comments relating to that line 149th street junction 149th street 138th street 166th street 161st street 163rd street curve 161st street last day at 161st street 3rd avenue el 156th street memories of the old third avenue el. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
105th St KK QJ JJ J Posted March 21, 2011 Share #2 Posted March 21, 2011 A pic of the Bronx section of the 3rd avenue EL in 1971. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted March 21, 2011 wow thats a nice pic where is that? gun hill road lower level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted March 21, 2011 Share #4 Posted March 21, 2011 wow thats a nice pic where is that? gun hill road lower level? Yes it Gun Hill Road with a upper and lower level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted March 22, 2011 Share #5 Posted March 22, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 22, 2011 Share #6 Posted March 22, 2011 Wow a protest to save the El. I didn't even know that. It was only Robert Moses along with some rich bastards that hated mass transit that wanted this thing to come down. Along with people that hated the shadow, and the noise. However I agree that it shouldn't have came down, because there is no replacement or as we call the Second Avenue Subway. Sometimes the Second Avenue Subway is called "The Line Time Forgot" as throughout history people would propose it, but it never got done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted March 22, 2011 Share #7 Posted March 22, 2011 @MC CJ: Actually, the Second Avenue El was torn down soon after the unification of the three different companies, probably because of the nearby Third Avenue line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted March 22, 2011 Share #8 Posted March 22, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted March 22, 2011 Share #9 Posted March 22, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 22, 2011 Share #10 Posted March 22, 2011 This map was made by a member of the Transit Forums named KGTeleport. He did it to show what could have had been done if the El's had survived today. Just posting it for him so it isn't done by me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted March 22, 2011 Share #11 Posted March 22, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share #12 Posted March 22, 2011 man thats one nice video of what you would typically see on the 3rd avenue el. you know the Q types did run on the 3rd avenue el and the LOW-V rode the second avenue el but they were to heavy so the Q types were brought in. but nice video like that great music sequel. theres another video and im going to try to post it. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share #13 Posted March 22, 2011 oh my god people these are some great posts. i really enjoy the poster and the map nice job to who ever made them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share #14 Posted March 22, 2011 here are some nice videos about the 3rd avenue el just so everybody knows the good things about the ls was they all ended at south ferry a common home for a common family of el trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted March 22, 2011 Share #15 Posted March 22, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share #16 Posted March 22, 2011 again nice video. you know the 3rd avenue had a turn leaving bowery that was called suicide curve because it was a 90 degree s curve both ways. there were some accidents on that turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 22, 2011 Share #17 Posted March 22, 2011 You are wrong about that one. That belongs to the Ninth Avenue Elevated. Here is proof. http://www.nycsubway.org/lines/9thave-el.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share #18 Posted March 22, 2011 You are wrong about that one. That belongs to the Ninth Avenue Elevated. Here is proof. http://www.nycsubway.org/lines/9thave-el.html wait so then suicide curve was on the 9th avenue el? :confused: then what was the name of that curve on bowery i know there were accidents at that curve. dude thanks for correcting me B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted March 22, 2011 Share #19 Posted March 22, 2011 The thing I remember about the 70(8) Third Avenue El is that it was kind of like The Bronx's own loop. You could deposit a token at East 149th Street in The Hub, ride to Gun Hill Road, transfer to a 70(2) and ride back to East 149th Street and 99% of the ride was elevated. Your ride would take you up Third and Webster Avenues and down White Plains Road, Southern Boulevard and Westchester Avenue. This was the South Bronx of 1970-1973 - the era of former NYFD Dennis Smith's Report From Engine Company 82. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGTeleport Posted March 22, 2011 Share #20 Posted March 22, 2011 Wow it's nice. Tell the person he did a wonderful job on it. Glad you liked it. That was just something I threw together one afternoon (consequently there are a couple of obvious omissions in the transfers), because it was a fairly well-defined what-if in my head and the subject had come up again. It's actually extremely quick to draw a relatively simple network that doesn't need any 45° angles (60° would also avoid that horrible number √2, but it looks really disconcerting for New York). I tried to make it as self-explanatory as possible, but I should probably mention a few other things about it: 1) The discussion that goes "Jamaica Avenue is much nicer than Broadway (Brooklyn) because there's no middle track" had come up yet again: so I did run with a version of save-the-els that didn't need middle tracks. 2) The 12 in Brooklyn is a bit of a joke: I pretty much had to admit that there was no way of persuading anyone to use the 5th Avenue El, and I don't seriously think the Culver Shuttle would have been much more use had it run to Sands Street (although it gave me an excuse to keep the cool upper level loop). What it's actually about is giving MOW trains another way out of the 38th St Yard, avoiding that weird gap in northbound evening West End Line service that exists at the moment. Yes, I know that's a very long expensive yard lead, but it is a fantasy map. 3) I'm not really happy with the UES, although I have tried to improve it as much as I could. What I might do in version 2 of this map is extend the 53rd St el all the way across to 2nd Av, so that the UES local service actually goes somewhere where people want to go, although that makes it a lot less realistic as a what-if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGTeleport Posted March 22, 2011 Share #21 Posted March 22, 2011 You are wrong about that one. That belongs to the Ninth Avenue Elevated. Here is proof. http://www.nycsubway.org/lines/9thave-el.html And Joe Brennan did a fantastic write-up on some pics of that one recently: link. The station that was added to the middle of it was unusual to say the least. It (and also 155th St on the same line) makes me want a time machine so I could go and railfan it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 22, 2011 Share #22 Posted March 22, 2011 Maybe an idea would be to connect the 11, and the 12 lines together to make a Brooklyn, Queens, and Manhattan Line which doesn't exist, and would have had served Downtown Brooklyn. Also you could reconfigure the 10 line so it would run with the 9 line in the Bronx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share #23 Posted March 22, 2011 those of you who did not get to fan the 149th street terminal this should be enough. 1972 149th street terminal 1960 crossover north of terminal 1973 diamond crossover approaching terminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share #24 Posted March 22, 2011 former 3rd avenue el stations south ferry hanover square fulton street franklin square chatham square canal street grand street houston street 14th street 18th street 23rd street 28th street 34th street 42nd street 47th street 53rd street 59th street 67th street 76th street 84th street 89th street 99th street 106th street 116th street 125th street 129th street 133rd street 138th street 143rd street 149th street 156th street 161st street 166th street 169th street claremont parkway 174th street E. tremont avenue 180th street 183rd street fordham road bronx park 200th street 204th street 210th street gun hill road which of the stations above would you have liked to fan if the 3rd avenue el still operated today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted March 22, 2011 Share #25 Posted March 22, 2011 No doubt about it. 210th Street-Williamsbridge was my favorite. 204th Street on Webster actually wasn't too far from Norwood-205th Street 70(D). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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