Isaiah Billings Posted July 18, 2023 Share #1 Posted July 18, 2023 Here are my changes to the NYC subway map: skips 49 St 50 Stand 49 Stare connected stop at 18 St, 28 St, Christopher St, and Franklin St skips Canal St Canal Stand Canal Stare connected Chambers Stand Chambers Stare the same station stops at Park Place, skip skips High St, Hoyt-Schermerhorn, and Utica Ave stops at Jay St Jay Stand Borough Hallare connected goes to Fulton St skips Alabama Ave stops at Alabama Ave Queensboro Plazaand Queens Plazaare connected stops at 2 Ave Now the fantasy express lines(skipped stations on the normal lines are strikethrough, express stations are bolded): : Van Cortlandt Park-242 St, 238 St, 231 St, Marble Hill-225 St, 215 St, 207 St, Dyckman St, 191 St, 181 St 168 St, 157 St, 145 St, 137 St-City College, 125 St, 116 St-Columbia University, 110 St-Cathedral Pkwy, 103 St, 96 St, 86 St, 79 St, 72 St, 66 St-Lincoln Center, 59 St-Columbus Circle, 50 St, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Penn Station, 28 St, 23 St, 18 St, 14 St, Christopher St, Houston St, Canal St, Franklin St, Chambers St, WTC Cortlandt, Rector St, South Ferry : Wakefield-241 St, Nereid Ave, 233 St, 225 St, 219 St, Gun Hill Rd, Burke Ave, Allerton Ave, Pelham Pkwy, Bronx Park East, E 180 St, West Farms Sq-E Tremont Ave, 174 St, Freeman St, Simpson St, Intervale Ave, Prospect Ave, Jackson Ave, 3 Ave-149 St, 149 St-Grand Concourse, 135 St, 125 St, 116 St, Central Park North-110 St, 96 St, 72 St, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Penn Station, 14 St, Chambers St, Fulton St, Wall St, Clark St, Borough Hall, Hoyt St, Nevins St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, Bergen St, Grand Army Plaza, Eastern Pkwy-Brooklyn Museum, Franklin Ave, President St, Sterling St, Winthrop St, Church Ave, Beverly Rd, Newkirk Ave-Little Haiti, Flatbush Ave-Brooklyn College : Harlem-148 St, 145 St, 135 St, 125 St, 116 St, Central Park North-110 St, 96 St, 72 St, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Penn Station, 14 St, Chambers St, Fulton St, Wall St, Clark St, Borough Hall, Hoyt St, Nevins St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, Bergen St, Grand Army Plaza, Eastern Pkwy-Brooklyn Museum, Franklin Ave, Nostrand Ave, Kingston Ave, Crown Hts-Utica Ave, Sutter Ave-Rutland Rd, Saratoga Ave, Rockaway Ave, Junius St-Livonia Ave, Pennsylvania Ave, Van Siclen Ave, New Lots Ave : Woodlawn, Moshlu Pkwy, Bedford Park Blvd-Lehman College, Kingsbridge Rd, Fordham Rd, 183 St, Burnside Ave, 176 St, Mt. Eden Ave, 170 St, 167 St, 161 St-Yankee Stadium, 149 St-Grand Concourse, 138 St-Grand Concourse, 125 St, 86 St, 59 St, Grand Central-42 St, 14 St-Union Square, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, Fulton St, Wall St, Bowling Green, Borough Hall, Nevins St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, Franklin Ave, Crown Hts-Utica Ave : Eastchester-Dyre Ave, Baychester Ave, Gun Hill Rd, Pelham Pkwy, Morris Park, E 180 St, West Farms Sq-E Tremont Ave, 174 St, Freeman St, Simpson St, Intervale Ave, Prospect Ave, Jackson Ave, 3 Ave-149 St, 149 St-Grand Concourse, 138 St-Grand Concourse, 125 St, 86 St, 59 St, Grand Central-42 St, 14 St-Union Square, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, Fulton St, Wall St, Bowling Green, Borough Hall, Nevins St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, Franklin Ave, President St, Sterling St, Winthrop St, Church Ave, Beverly Rd, Newkirk Ave-Little Haiti, Flatbush Ave-Brooklyn College : Pelham Bay Park, Buhre Ave, Middletown Rd, Westchester Sq-E Tremont Ave, Zerega Ave, Castle Hill Ave, Parkchester, St Lawrence Ave, Morrison Ave-Soundview, Elder Ave, Whitlock Ave, Hunts Point Ave, Longwood Ave, E 149 St, E 143 St-St Mary's St, Cypress Ave, Brook Ave, 3 Ave-138 St, 125 St, 116 St, 110 St, 103 St, 96 St, 86 St, 77 St, 68 St-Hunter College, 59 St, 51 St, Grand Central-42 St, 33 St, 28 St, 23 St, 14 St-Union Square, Astor Place, Bleecker St, Spring St, Canal St, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, Fulton St : 34 St-Hudson Yards, Times Sq-42 St, 5 Ave, Grand Central-42 St, Vernon Blvd-Jackson Ave, Hunters Point Ave, Court Sq, Queensboro Plaza, 33 St-Rawson St, 40 St-Lowery St, 46 St-Bliss St, 52 St, 61 St-Woodside, 69 St, Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Ave, 82 St-Jackson Hts, 90 St-Elmhurst, Junction Blvd, 103 St-Corona Plaza, 111 St, Mets-Willets Point, Flushing-Main St : Inwood-207 St, Dyckman St, 190 St, 181 St, 175 St, 168 St, 145 St, 125 St, 59 St-Columbus Circle, 42 St-Port Authority, 34 St-Penn Station, 14 St, West 4 St, Chambers St, Fulton St, Jay St, Nostrand Ave, Broadway Junction, Euclid Ave, Grant Ave, 80 St, 88 St, Rockaway Blvd, Aqueduct-North Conduit Ave, Howard Beach-JFK Airport, Broad Channel, Beach 67 St, Beach 60 St, Beach 44 St, Beach 36 St, Beach 25 St, Far Rockaway-Mott Ave : 168 St, 163 St-Amsterdam Ave, 155 St, 145 St, 135 St, 125 St, 116 St, 110 St-Cathedral Pkwy, 103 St, 96 St, 86 St, 81 St-Museum of Natural History, 72 St, 59 St-Columbus Circle, 50 St, 42 St-Port Authority, 34 St-Penn Station, 28 St, 23 St, 18 St, 14 St, Christopher St, West 4 St, Spring St, Canal St, Franklin St, Chambers St, Park Place, Fulton St, High St, Jay St, Hoyt-Schermerhorn, Lafayette Ave, Clinton-Washington Aves, Franklin Ave, Nostrand Ave, Kingston-Throop Aves, Utica Ave, Ralph Ave, Rockaway Ave, Broadway Junction, Alabama Ave, Liberty Ave, Van Siclen Ave, Shepherd Ave, Euclid Ave : Jamaica Center-Parsons Archer, Sutphin Blvd-Archer Ave, Jamaica Van Wyck, Briarwood, Kew Gardens-Union Turnpike, 75 Ave, Forest Hills-71 Ave, Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Ave, Queens Plaza, Court Sq-23 St, Lexington Ave-53 St, 5 Ave-53 St, 7 Ave, 50 St, 42 St-Port Authority, 34 St-Penn Station, 28 St, 23 St, 18 St, 14 St, Christopher St, West 4 St, Spring St, Canal St, Franklin St, Chambers St : Bedford Park Blvd, Kingsbridge Rd, Fordham Rd, 182-183 Sts, Tremont Ave, 174-175 Sts, 170 St, 167 St, 161 St-Yankee Stadium, 155 St,145 St, 135 St, 125 St, 116 St, 110 St-Cathedral Pkwy, 103 St, 96 St, 86 St, 81 St-Museum of Natural History, 72 St, 59 St-Columbus Circle, 7 Ave, Rockefeller Center, 42 St-Bryant Park, 34 St-Herald Sq, West 4 St, Broadway-Lafayette, Grand St, DeKalb Ave, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, 7 Ave(Bklyn), Prospect Park, Church Ave, Newkirk Plaza, Kings Hwy, Sheepshead Bay, Brighton Beach : Norwood-205 St, Bedford Park Blvd, Kingsbridge Rd, Fordham Rd, 182-183 Sts, Tremont Ave, 174-175 Sts, 170 St, 167 St, 161 St-Yankee Stadium, 155 St, 145 St, 125 St, 59 St-Columbus Circle, 7 Ave, Rockefeller Center, 42 St-Bryant Park, 34 St-Herald Sq, West 4 St, Broadway-Lafayette, Grand St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, 36 St, 9 Ave, Fort Hamilton Pkwy, 50 St, 55 St, New Utrecht Ave-62 St, 71 St, 79 St, 18 Ave, 20 Ave, Besonhurst-Bay Pkwy, 25 Ave, Bay 50 St, Coney Island-Stillwell Ave : Jamaica-179 St, 169 St, Parsons Blvd, Sutphin Blvd, Briarwood, Kew Gardens-Union Turnpike, 75 Ave, Forest Hills-71 Ave, Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Ave, 21 St-Queensbridge, Roosevelt Island, Lexington Ave-63 St, 57 St, Rockefeller Center, 42 St-Bryant Park, 34 St-Herald Sq, 23 St, 14 St, West 4 St, Broadway-Lafayette, 2 Ave, Delancey-Essex, East Broadway, York St, Jay St, Bergen St, Carroll St, Smith 9 Sts, 4 Ave-9 St, 7 Ave, 15 St-Prospect Park, Fort Hamilton Pkwy, Church Ave, Ditmas Ave, 18 Ave, Avenue I, Bay Pkwy, Avenue N, Avenue P, Kings Hwy, Avenue U, Avenue X, Neptune Ave, West 8 St-New York Aquarium, Coney Island-Stillwell Ave : Forest Hills-71 Ave, 67 Ave, 63 Dr-Rego Park, Woodhaven Blvd, Grand Ave-Newtown, Elmhurst Ave, Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Ave, 65 St, Northern Blvd, 46 St, Steinway St, 36 St(Qns), Queens Plaza, Court Sq-23 St, Lexington Ave-53 St, 5 Ave-53 St, Rockefeller Center, 42 St-Bryant Park, 34 St-Herald Sq, 23 St, 14 St, West 4 St, Broadway-Lafayette, 2 Ave, Delancey-Essex, Marcy Ave, Hewes St, Lorimer St, Flushing Ave, Myrtle Ave, Central Ave, Knickerbocker Ave, Myrtle-Wyckoff Aves, Seneca Ave, Forest Ave, Fresh Pond Rd, Middle Village-Metropolitan Ave : Astoria-Ditmars Blvd, Astoria Blvd, 30 Ave, Broadway, 36 Ave, 39 Ave, Queensboro Plaza, Lexington Ave-59 St, 5 Ave-59 St, 57 St-7 Ave, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Herald Sq, 14 St-Union Square, Canal St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, 36 St, 59 St, 8 Ave, Fort Hamilton Pkwy, New Utrecht Ave-62 St, 18 Ave, 20 Ave, Bay Pkwy, Kings Hwy, Avenue U, 86 St, Coney Island-Stillwell Ave : 96 St, 86 St, 72 St, Lexington Ave-63 St, 57 St-7 Ave, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Herald Sq, 14 St-Union Square, Canal St, DeKalb Ave, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, 7 Ave(Bklyn), Prospect Park, Parkside Ave, Church Ave, Beverly Rd, Cortelyou Rd, Newkirk Plaza, Avenue H, Avenue J, Avenue M, Kings Hwy, Avenue U, Neck Rd, Sheepshead Bay, Brighton Beach, Ocean Pkwy, West 8 St-New York Aquarium, Coney Island-Stillwell Ave : Forest Hills-71 Ave, 67 Ave, 63 Dr-Rego Park, Woodhaven Blvd, Grand Ave-Newtown, Elmhurst Ave, Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Ave, 65 St, Northern Blvd, 46 St, Steinway St, 36 St(Qns), Queens Plaza, Lexington Ave-59 St, 5 Ave-59 St, 57 St-7 Ave, 49 St, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Herald Sq, 28 St, 23 St, 14 St-Union Square, 8 St-NYU, Prince St, Canal St, City Hall, Cortlandt St, Rector St, Whitehall St, Jay St, DeKalb Ave, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, Union St, 4 Ave-9 St, Prospect Ave, 25 St, 36 St, 45 St, 53 St, 59 St, Bay Ridge Ave, 77 St, 86 St, Bay Ridge-95 St : Astoria-Ditmars Blvd, Astoria Blvd, 30 Ave, Broadway, 36 Ave, 39 Ave, Queensboro Plaza, Lexington Ave-59 St, 5 Ave-59 St, 57 St-7 Ave, 49 St, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Herald Sq, 28 St, 23 St, 14 St-Union Square, 8 St-NYU, Prince St, Canal St, City Hall, Cortlandt St, Rector St, Whitehall St : Church Ave, Fort Hamilton Pkwy, 15 St-Prospect Park, 7 Ave, 4 Ave-9 St, Smith 9 Sts, Carroll St, Bergen St, Jay St, Hoyt-Schermerhorn, Fulton St, Clinton-Washington Aves, Classon Ave, Bedford-Nostrand Aves, Myrtle Willoughby Aves, Flushing Ave, Broadway, Metropolitan Ave, Nassau Ave, Greenpoint Ave, 21 St, Court Sq : 8 Ave, 6 Ave, 14 St-Union Square, 3 Ave, 1 Ave, Bedford Ave, Lorimer St, Graham Ave, Grand St, Montrose Ave, Morgan Ave, Jefferson St, DeKalb Ave, Myrtle-Wyckoff Aves, Hasley St, Wilson Ave, Bushwick Ave-Aberdeen St, Broadway Junction, Atlantic Ave, Sutter Ave, Livonia Ave, New Lots Ave, E 105 St, Canarsie-Rockaway Pkwy : Broad St, Fulton St, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, Canal St, Bowery, Delancey-Essex, Marcy Ave, Hewes St, Lorimer St, Flushing Ave, Myrtle Ave, Kosciuszko St, Gates Ave, Hasley St, Chauncey St, Broadway Junction, Alabama Ave, Van Siclen Ave, Cleveland St, Norwood Ave, Crescent St, Cypress Hills, 75 St-Elderts Ln, 85 St-Forest Pkwy, Woodhaven Blvd, 104 St, 111 St, 121 St, Sutphin Blvd-Archer Ave, Jamaica Center-Parsons Archer : Broad St, Fulton St, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, Canal St, Bowery, Delancey-Essex, Marcy Ave, Myrtle Ave, Broadway Junction, Crescent St, Woodhaven Blvd, Sutphin Blvd-Archer Ave, Jamaica Center-Parsons Archer So that's it. My fantasy NYC subway. What do you think? This took 5 days to make, and months to think up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted July 18, 2023 Share #2 Posted July 18, 2023 Okay… um… we have a thread exactly for this kind of thing, so… yeah… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturious Posted July 19, 2023 Share #3 Posted July 19, 2023 @Isaiah Billings As Kamen Rider has stated, there is a thread for this exact purpose, doesn't matter how long this is either. Although, I will still talk about this here, while I'm at it please take a look at this track map https://www.vanshnookenraggen.com/_index/docs/NYC_full_trackmap.pdf. 49 and 50 St between 7 Av and Broadway lines would be sort of useful, but Times Square is also a thing so not really worth the connection. IIRC, there is nothing that allows the to normally switch at 57 St instead from 34 St to go to Queens. 8 Av local should not have more stops, just no and trains stop on the same tracks together going north at Canal St plus I highly doubt no one isn't getting on the at that station. Canal St between the 7 Av and 8 Av line connection could be useful, don't know how useful. Chambers St on the connect to Park Place for the , unless it's to give a connection to the , then don't bother with the connection at Canal St. Park Place is on top of Chambers St-WTC which is an IRT station, not a B divison station. Way too much unnecessary reconstruction for the sake of only having the stop there. trains cannot skip High St, only 2 track section, it cannot skip Hoyt-Schermerhorn because of the connection to the , and cannot skip Utica, riders are catching an express train. cannot stop at Jay St for obvious reasons if you looked at the map I provided Jay St and Borough Hall station connection is actually not bad. can't go to Fulton St without some heavy construction. cannot stop at Alabama because it already has a connection to the at Broadway Junction. Queens and Queensboro Plaza connection would be pretty useful, shame it hasn't been made yet. Here's what I think, you are definitely an ambitious person, but those ambitions are too much for you and the system. There is a lot that you would need to do for the system such as a bunch of reconstruction for starters. There is way too much going on here and I really hope you look at the map I sent as well as look at other maps for some geographical accuracy like Google Maps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted July 19, 2023 Share #4 Posted July 19, 2023 The N stops at 49th because it’s a busy station… at least from what I’ve been told. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Billings Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted July 19, 2023 15 hours ago, Vulturious said: @Isaiah Billings As Kamen Rider has stated, there is a thread for this exact purpose, doesn't matter how long this is either. Although, I will still talk about this here, while I'm at it please take a look at this track map https://www.vanshnookenraggen.com/_index/docs/NYC_full_trackmap.pdf. 49 and 50 St between 7 Av and Broadway lines would be sort of useful, but Times Square is also a thing so not really worth the connection. IIRC, there is nothing that allows the to normally switch at 57 St instead from 34 St to go to Queens. 8 Av local should not have more stops, just no and trains stop on the same tracks together going north at Canal St plus I highly doubt no one isn't getting on the at that station. Canal St between the 7 Av and 8 Av line connection could be useful, don't know how useful. Chambers St on the connect to Park Place for the , unless it's to give a connection to the , then don't bother with the connection at Canal St. Park Place is on top of Chambers St-WTC which is an IRT station, not a B divison station. Way too much unnecessary reconstruction for the sake of only having the stop there. trains cannot skip High St, only 2 track section, it cannot skip Hoyt-Schermerhorn because of the connection to the , and cannot skip Utica, riders are catching an express train. cannot stop at Jay St for obvious reasons if you looked at the map I provided Jay St and Borough Hall station connection is actually not bad. can't go to Fulton St without some heavy construction. cannot stop at Alabama because it already has a connection to the at Broadway Junction. Queens and Queensboro Plaza connection would be pretty useful, shame it hasn't been made yet. Here's what I think, you are definitely an ambitious person, but those ambitions are too much for you and the system. There is a lot that you would need to do for the system such as a bunch of reconstruction for starters. There is way too much going on here and I really hope you look at the map I sent as well as look at other maps for some geographical accuracy like Google Maps. Ok, scrap that part(for now). How 'bout the fantasy express lines? Yeah they do incorporate my changes but what do you think of the lines in general. Ik that my changes are unrealistic, but my express lines don't include extra track or anything, just some trains that are kinda like skip-stoppers. They go to the exact same places as the regular local trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturious Posted July 20, 2023 Share #6 Posted July 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Isaiah Billings said: Ok, scrap that part(for now). How 'bout the fantasy express lines? Yeah they do incorporate my changes but what do you think of the lines in general. Ik that my changes are unrealistic, but my express lines don't include extra track or anything, just some trains that are kinda like skip-stoppers. They go to the exact same places as the regular local trains. Unnecessary, skip-stop in NYC in general is frowned upon because they just don't work. The only area I can say that works is the skip-stop combo because of how isolated the line and how far those stations are from Manhattan. Those that take it don't have issues with it because it's a time-saver and only other way for a faster service going through the line. It also has to do from what I hear about it being balanced. Line like the skip-stop service wasn't from what I hear and wasn't always around any way, the line was cut for good in 2004 as well years before the budget cuts with other lines in 2010. Especially with how many stations these skip-stop services are making along with all lines attempting to be express only to be skip-stop, it's just very inconsistent and would constantly create delays. Certain lines are local because they have to be, they cannot be running express just for the sake of having an express variant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris89292 Posted July 20, 2023 Share #7 Posted July 20, 2023 On 7/18/2023 at 6:29 PM, Isaiah Billings said: Here are my changes to the NYC subway map: skips 49 St 50 Stand 49 Stare connected stop at 18 St, 28 St, Christopher St, and Franklin St skips Canal St Canal Stand Canal Stare connected Chambers Stand Chambers Stare the same station stops at Park Place, skip skips High St, Hoyt-Schermerhorn, and Utica Ave stops at Jay St Jay Stand Borough Hallare connected goes to Fulton St skips Alabama Ave stops at Alabama Ave Queensboro Plazaand Queens Plazaare connected stops at 2 Ave Now the fantasy express lines(skipped stations on the normal lines are strikethrough, express stations are bolded): : Van Cortlandt Park-242 St, 238 St, 231 St, Marble Hill-225 St, 215 St, 207 St, Dyckman St, 191 St, 181 St 168 St, 157 St, 145 St, 137 St-City College, 125 St, 116 St-Columbia University, 110 St-Cathedral Pkwy, 103 St, 96 St, 86 St, 79 St, 72 St, 66 St-Lincoln Center, 59 St-Columbus Circle, 50 St, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Penn Station, 28 St, 23 St, 18 St, 14 St, Christopher St, Houston St, Canal St, Franklin St, Chambers St, WTC Cortlandt, Rector St, South Ferry : Wakefield-241 St, Nereid Ave, 233 St, 225 St, 219 St, Gun Hill Rd, Burke Ave, Allerton Ave, Pelham Pkwy, Bronx Park East, E 180 St, West Farms Sq-E Tremont Ave, 174 St, Freeman St, Simpson St, Intervale Ave, Prospect Ave, Jackson Ave, 3 Ave-149 St, 149 St-Grand Concourse, 135 St, 125 St, 116 St, Central Park North-110 St, 96 St, 72 St, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Penn Station, 14 St, Chambers St, Fulton St, Wall St, Clark St, Borough Hall, Hoyt St, Nevins St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, Bergen St, Grand Army Plaza, Eastern Pkwy-Brooklyn Museum, Franklin Ave, President St, Sterling St, Winthrop St, Church Ave, Beverly Rd, Newkirk Ave-Little Haiti, Flatbush Ave-Brooklyn College : Harlem-148 St, 145 St, 135 St, 125 St, 116 St, Central Park North-110 St, 96 St, 72 St, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Penn Station, 14 St, Chambers St, Fulton St, Wall St, Clark St, Borough Hall, Hoyt St, Nevins St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, Bergen St, Grand Army Plaza, Eastern Pkwy-Brooklyn Museum, Franklin Ave, Nostrand Ave, Kingston Ave, Crown Hts-Utica Ave, Sutter Ave-Rutland Rd, Saratoga Ave, Rockaway Ave, Junius St-Livonia Ave, Pennsylvania Ave, Van Siclen Ave, New Lots Ave : Woodlawn, Moshlu Pkwy, Bedford Park Blvd-Lehman College, Kingsbridge Rd, Fordham Rd, 183 St, Burnside Ave, 176 St, Mt. Eden Ave, 170 St, 167 St, 161 St-Yankee Stadium, 149 St-Grand Concourse, 138 St-Grand Concourse, 125 St, 86 St, 59 St, Grand Central-42 St, 14 St-Union Square, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, Fulton St, Wall St, Bowling Green, Borough Hall, Nevins St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, Franklin Ave, Crown Hts-Utica Ave : Eastchester-Dyre Ave, Baychester Ave, Gun Hill Rd, Pelham Pkwy, Morris Park, E 180 St, West Farms Sq-E Tremont Ave, 174 St, Freeman St, Simpson St, Intervale Ave, Prospect Ave, Jackson Ave, 3 Ave-149 St, 149 St-Grand Concourse, 138 St-Grand Concourse, 125 St, 86 St, 59 St, Grand Central-42 St, 14 St-Union Square, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, Fulton St, Wall St, Bowling Green, Borough Hall, Nevins St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, Franklin Ave, President St, Sterling St, Winthrop St, Church Ave, Beverly Rd, Newkirk Ave-Little Haiti, Flatbush Ave-Brooklyn College : Pelham Bay Park, Buhre Ave, Middletown Rd, Westchester Sq-E Tremont Ave, Zerega Ave, Castle Hill Ave, Parkchester, St Lawrence Ave, Morrison Ave-Soundview, Elder Ave, Whitlock Ave, Hunts Point Ave, Longwood Ave, E 149 St, E 143 St-St Mary's St, Cypress Ave, Brook Ave, 3 Ave-138 St, 125 St, 116 St, 110 St, 103 St, 96 St, 86 St, 77 St, 68 St-Hunter College, 59 St, 51 St, Grand Central-42 St, 33 St, 28 St, 23 St, 14 St-Union Square, Astor Place, Bleecker St, Spring St, Canal St, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, Fulton St : 34 St-Hudson Yards, Times Sq-42 St, 5 Ave, Grand Central-42 St, Vernon Blvd-Jackson Ave, Hunters Point Ave, Court Sq, Queensboro Plaza, 33 St-Rawson St, 40 St-Lowery St, 46 St-Bliss St, 52 St, 61 St-Woodside, 69 St, Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Ave, 82 St-Jackson Hts, 90 St-Elmhurst, Junction Blvd, 103 St-Corona Plaza, 111 St, Mets-Willets Point, Flushing-Main St : Inwood-207 St, Dyckman St, 190 St, 181 St, 175 St, 168 St, 145 St, 125 St, 59 St-Columbus Circle, 42 St-Port Authority, 34 St-Penn Station, 14 St, West 4 St, Chambers St, Fulton St, Jay St, Nostrand Ave, Broadway Junction, Euclid Ave, Grant Ave, 80 St, 88 St, Rockaway Blvd, Aqueduct-North Conduit Ave, Howard Beach-JFK Airport, Broad Channel, Beach 67 St, Beach 60 St, Beach 44 St, Beach 36 St, Beach 25 St, Far Rockaway-Mott Ave : 168 St, 163 St-Amsterdam Ave, 155 St, 145 St, 135 St, 125 St, 116 St, 110 St-Cathedral Pkwy, 103 St, 96 St, 86 St, 81 St-Museum of Natural History, 72 St, 59 St-Columbus Circle, 50 St, 42 St-Port Authority, 34 St-Penn Station, 28 St, 23 St, 18 St, 14 St, Christopher St, West 4 St, Spring St, Canal St, Franklin St, Chambers St, Park Place, Fulton St, High St, Jay St, Hoyt-Schermerhorn, Lafayette Ave, Clinton-Washington Aves, Franklin Ave, Nostrand Ave, Kingston-Throop Aves, Utica Ave, Ralph Ave, Rockaway Ave, Broadway Junction, Alabama Ave, Liberty Ave, Van Siclen Ave, Shepherd Ave, Euclid Ave : Jamaica Center-Parsons Archer, Sutphin Blvd-Archer Ave, Jamaica Van Wyck, Briarwood, Kew Gardens-Union Turnpike, 75 Ave, Forest Hills-71 Ave, Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Ave, Queens Plaza, Court Sq-23 St, Lexington Ave-53 St, 5 Ave-53 St, 7 Ave, 50 St, 42 St-Port Authority, 34 St-Penn Station, 28 St, 23 St, 18 St, 14 St, Christopher St, West 4 St, Spring St, Canal St, Franklin St, Chambers St : Bedford Park Blvd, Kingsbridge Rd, Fordham Rd, 182-183 Sts, Tremont Ave, 174-175 Sts, 170 St, 167 St, 161 St-Yankee Stadium, 155 St,145 St, 135 St, 125 St, 116 St, 110 St-Cathedral Pkwy, 103 St, 96 St, 86 St, 81 St-Museum of Natural History, 72 St, 59 St-Columbus Circle, 7 Ave, Rockefeller Center, 42 St-Bryant Park, 34 St-Herald Sq, West 4 St, Broadway-Lafayette, Grand St, DeKalb Ave, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, 7 Ave(Bklyn), Prospect Park, Church Ave, Newkirk Plaza, Kings Hwy, Sheepshead Bay, Brighton Beach : Norwood-205 St, Bedford Park Blvd, Kingsbridge Rd, Fordham Rd, 182-183 Sts, Tremont Ave, 174-175 Sts, 170 St, 167 St, 161 St-Yankee Stadium, 155 St, 145 St, 125 St, 59 St-Columbus Circle, 7 Ave, Rockefeller Center, 42 St-Bryant Park, 34 St-Herald Sq, West 4 St, Broadway-Lafayette, Grand St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, 36 St, 9 Ave, Fort Hamilton Pkwy, 50 St, 55 St, New Utrecht Ave-62 St, 71 St, 79 St, 18 Ave, 20 Ave, Besonhurst-Bay Pkwy, 25 Ave, Bay 50 St, Coney Island-Stillwell Ave : Jamaica-179 St, 169 St, Parsons Blvd, Sutphin Blvd, Briarwood, Kew Gardens-Union Turnpike, 75 Ave, Forest Hills-71 Ave, Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Ave, 21 St-Queensbridge, Roosevelt Island, Lexington Ave-63 St, 57 St, Rockefeller Center, 42 St-Bryant Park, 34 St-Herald Sq, 23 St, 14 St, West 4 St, Broadway-Lafayette, 2 Ave, Delancey-Essex, East Broadway, York St, Jay St, Bergen St, Carroll St, Smith 9 Sts, 4 Ave-9 St, 7 Ave, 15 St-Prospect Park, Fort Hamilton Pkwy, Church Ave, Ditmas Ave, 18 Ave, Avenue I, Bay Pkwy, Avenue N, Avenue P, Kings Hwy, Avenue U, Avenue X, Neptune Ave, West 8 St-New York Aquarium, Coney Island-Stillwell Ave : Forest Hills-71 Ave, 67 Ave, 63 Dr-Rego Park, Woodhaven Blvd, Grand Ave-Newtown, Elmhurst Ave, Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Ave, 65 St, Northern Blvd, 46 St, Steinway St, 36 St(Qns), Queens Plaza, Court Sq-23 St, Lexington Ave-53 St, 5 Ave-53 St, Rockefeller Center, 42 St-Bryant Park, 34 St-Herald Sq, 23 St, 14 St, West 4 St, Broadway-Lafayette, 2 Ave, Delancey-Essex, Marcy Ave, Hewes St, Lorimer St, Flushing Ave, Myrtle Ave, Central Ave, Knickerbocker Ave, Myrtle-Wyckoff Aves, Seneca Ave, Forest Ave, Fresh Pond Rd, Middle Village-Metropolitan Ave : Astoria-Ditmars Blvd, Astoria Blvd, 30 Ave, Broadway, 36 Ave, 39 Ave, Queensboro Plaza, Lexington Ave-59 St, 5 Ave-59 St, 57 St-7 Ave, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Herald Sq, 14 St-Union Square, Canal St, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, 36 St, 59 St, 8 Ave, Fort Hamilton Pkwy, New Utrecht Ave-62 St, 18 Ave, 20 Ave, Bay Pkwy, Kings Hwy, Avenue U, 86 St, Coney Island-Stillwell Ave : 96 St, 86 St, 72 St, Lexington Ave-63 St, 57 St-7 Ave, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Herald Sq, 14 St-Union Square, Canal St, DeKalb Ave, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, 7 Ave(Bklyn), Prospect Park, Parkside Ave, Church Ave, Beverly Rd, Cortelyou Rd, Newkirk Plaza, Avenue H, Avenue J, Avenue M, Kings Hwy, Avenue U, Neck Rd, Sheepshead Bay, Brighton Beach, Ocean Pkwy, West 8 St-New York Aquarium, Coney Island-Stillwell Ave : Forest Hills-71 Ave, 67 Ave, 63 Dr-Rego Park, Woodhaven Blvd, Grand Ave-Newtown, Elmhurst Ave, Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Ave, 65 St, Northern Blvd, 46 St, Steinway St, 36 St(Qns), Queens Plaza, Lexington Ave-59 St, 5 Ave-59 St, 57 St-7 Ave, 49 St, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Herald Sq, 28 St, 23 St, 14 St-Union Square, 8 St-NYU, Prince St, Canal St, City Hall, Cortlandt St, Rector St, Whitehall St, Jay St, DeKalb Ave, Atlantic Ave-Barclays Center, Union St, 4 Ave-9 St, Prospect Ave, 25 St, 36 St, 45 St, 53 St, 59 St, Bay Ridge Ave, 77 St, 86 St, Bay Ridge-95 St : Astoria-Ditmars Blvd, Astoria Blvd, 30 Ave, Broadway, 36 Ave, 39 Ave, Queensboro Plaza, Lexington Ave-59 St, 5 Ave-59 St, 57 St-7 Ave, 49 St, Times Sq-42 St, 34 St-Herald Sq, 28 St, 23 St, 14 St-Union Square, 8 St-NYU, Prince St, Canal St, City Hall, Cortlandt St, Rector St, Whitehall St : Church Ave, Fort Hamilton Pkwy, 15 St-Prospect Park, 7 Ave, 4 Ave-9 St, Smith 9 Sts, Carroll St, Bergen St, Jay St, Hoyt-Schermerhorn, Fulton St, Clinton-Washington Aves, Classon Ave, Bedford-Nostrand Aves, Myrtle Willoughby Aves, Flushing Ave, Broadway, Metropolitan Ave, Nassau Ave, Greenpoint Ave, 21 St, Court Sq : 8 Ave, 6 Ave, 14 St-Union Square, 3 Ave, 1 Ave, Bedford Ave, Lorimer St, Graham Ave, Grand St, Montrose Ave, Morgan Ave, Jefferson St, DeKalb Ave, Myrtle-Wyckoff Aves, Hasley St, Wilson Ave, Bushwick Ave-Aberdeen St, Broadway Junction, Atlantic Ave, Sutter Ave, Livonia Ave, New Lots Ave, E 105 St, Canarsie-Rockaway Pkwy : Broad St, Fulton St, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, Canal St, Bowery, Delancey-Essex, Marcy Ave, Hewes St, Lorimer St, Flushing Ave, Myrtle Ave, Kosciuszko St, Gates Ave, Hasley St, Chauncey St, Broadway Junction, Alabama Ave, Van Siclen Ave, Cleveland St, Norwood Ave, Crescent St, Cypress Hills, 75 St-Elderts Ln, 85 St-Forest Pkwy, Woodhaven Blvd, 104 St, 111 St, 121 St, Sutphin Blvd-Archer Ave, Jamaica Center-Parsons Archer : Broad St, Fulton St, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, Canal St, Bowery, Delancey-Essex, Marcy Ave, Myrtle Ave, Broadway Junction, Crescent St, Woodhaven Blvd, Sutphin Blvd-Archer Ave, Jamaica Center-Parsons Archer So that's it. My fantasy NYC subway. What do you think? This took 5 days to make, and months to think up Your express plan ain’t gonna work, skipping Junction and woodside isn’t a good idea, skip stop service in Manhattan isn’t great either, why skip 5th Avenue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil 57 Posted July 20, 2023 Share #8 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) I see alot of important stops skipped. Also, there's no need for having an express train cause that's just an train. Also, where would you be getting the resources for these express/super express trains? Hopefully by not cutting regular service in half. If anything maybe a few "super express" trains on some sections during peak hours might work. Like a handful of trains only making stops at Pelham Bay Park, Parkchester, Hunts Point Ave, and 3 Ave-138 St in the Bronx in the peak direction. or extending the express portion of the to King's Highway or to Neptune Ave. Edited July 20, 2023 by Lil 57 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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