metsfan Posted May 8, 2009 Share #1 Posted May 8, 2009 So, on my way home today, i got a daytime view, longer than normal, since i was facing backwards in a (NJT) MLV, i noticed what i'd always assumed to be a push/pull passenger car. I was wrong. It looks like a silverliner or old PRR single unit self propelled car. PRR used to operate these in consists of 1 to 5 units on its local routes. So, my question is, what is an -old- pantograph toting car sitting idle for there? Restoration would be a cool way to go, perhaps along with the pair of SPV2000 at hudson yard..... Any thoughts, info or comments? - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted May 8, 2009 Share #2 Posted May 8, 2009 i noticed some spv2000s when i was riding PATH the other day. the pair was sitting adjacent to the path yard at harrison. they can also be seen from I-280. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted May 8, 2009 Share #3 Posted May 8, 2009 Do you have a photo? From what it sounds like you may be talking about one of the Amtrak Wire train cars. I have been lucky this week and not had to make a trip on the NEC only the NJCL haha...the SPV(Seldom powered vehicle:p) belongs to the NYSWTHS from last reports will it ever move who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted May 8, 2009 The car in question has metal sheets over its windows, and has an older design than the silverliner 3 and 4. It has an old fashioned diamond pant (the kind the GG1 and its contemporaries had). The wire train you speak of sits farther back last i saw and you can see the spools etc. It may have been moved though. This one is hooked to 2 other cars it seems, perhaps a light crane? I'll try to get another look today in the AM. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted May 9, 2009 Ok, news flash. Both of the cars i saw today had diamond (old fashioned) pantographs. I have a photo of one of them. They do NOT look like slapped on fabricated pants, they look to be original. I believe each one was half of a married pair, since the power conduit stops at what would be the rear of the A unit. Will post photo ASAP! - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted May 9, 2009 Share #6 Posted May 9, 2009 ...I think this may be a wire car of some sort....waiting to see the photo though before I decide what it is. It could be like Septa's wire train that uses an arrow II(the last remaining one too) as a control car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted May 9, 2009 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=260036&nseq=36 Suspiciously familiar...... still transferring from camera to computer. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share #8 Posted May 9, 2009 Found these too... Gimme one more sec i should have the image uploaded for viewing soon. :tup: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted May 9, 2009 Viola. Sorry we were doing 95 and i wasnt sure where it would be. The other one seems identical. Any ideas? - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred G Posted May 9, 2009 Share #10 Posted May 9, 2009 Found these too... - A Holy crap! Very cool pic. Notice that triangular catenary which was between Stamford and Woodlawn Jct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share #11 Posted May 9, 2009 Yea! They liked triangles in the power systems back then it seems. I just saw a similar car with mount but no pantograph on territory, so it seems these cars stem from PC operational era. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted May 10, 2009 Share #12 Posted May 10, 2009 That car is part of a wire train I was right! See the flat car coupled to it..gave it away. Nice shots of the washboards BTW!:tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted May 10, 2009 Share #13 Posted May 10, 2009 Yea! They liked triangles in the power systems back then it seems. I just saw a similar car with mount but no pantograph on territory, so it seems these cars stem from PC operational era. - A I hate double posting but just saw this, SEPTA has an ex NJT Arrow II which it uses for its wire train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share #14 Posted May 10, 2009 Interesting. However that makes 3. Did (NJT) actually send to scrapper, or did amtk or take it? :confused: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted May 10, 2009 Share #15 Posted May 10, 2009 The arrow II? I don't know the back story on how they go it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share #16 Posted May 10, 2009 I mean the (NJT) wire train. Maybe took it? :cool: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted May 10, 2009 Share #17 Posted May 10, 2009 I mean the (NJT) wire train. Maybe took it? :cool: - A Nope NJT has or had two...ones fate still remains uncertain..the NJCL one is somehow still alive but sitting at the MMC awaiting its fate it seems(I was originally told it was scrapped but that seems not to be the case). Its my hope and a few others that it remains intact. I don't know when SEPTA did theirs but I'll try to find out from some friends at both agencies to see if Transit sold them the car or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share #18 Posted May 11, 2009 Nope NJT has or had two...ones fate still remains uncertain..the NJCL one is somehow still alive but sitting at the MMC awaiting its fate it seems(I was originally told it was scrapped but that seems not to be the case). Its my hope and a few others that it remains intact. I don't know when SEPTA did theirs but I'll try to find out from some friends at both agencies to see if Transit sold them the car or not. :tup: The mystery of rail history is here and living large, even with modern operators, there are still mysteries, unanswered questions, and uncertain fates. :eek::cool::tup: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted June 14, 2009 Share #19 Posted June 14, 2009 Found these too... Gimme one more sec i should have the image uploaded for viewing soon. :tup: - A Love that old Silverliner! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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