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Good, except that theSouthbound:
Via Brighton Local.
Via Viaduct Express - Culver Express to Coney Island. If already on Manhattan Bridge, via Brighton Express.
Via Brighton Express
Terminates at whatever station they're at. running Brighton Local and the running Brighton Express will cause unnecessary switching and delays at Brighton Beach. Running local won't add too much running time to the at all.
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NO.Actually, please do solve this...
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Yes, and?No, look at 71st Street on a track map and come back to me....
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RollOverMyHead, I've had a hard time understanding all of the many comments you've made about the NYC Subway fleet, and figuring out what your general point is...That's why I wanted your first thread to be locked...I think if you tried to make yourself a little bit more clear (and didn't contradict yourself, or explained why you were doing so), people would be less upset.
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This just seems really strange, since we have no idea if the#2, the only thing you should find funny, is that fact that you don't read. MTA also stated in a press release (after I posted it) that the last of the R179's will go to the
. But here is the part where common sense comes in....... If the goes online in 2016, what cars would you THINK they would be using? will even exist...And if and when it does, we'll probably be really old (or dead). Are you sure that they didn't mean the SAS 
extension instead?
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I would have to disagree.Listening to some announcement videos on youtube, Melissa Kleiner has a really nice voice in my opinion!
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As if shutting down all of northern Manhattan is intelligentSomething more dumbed down...
!5 alarm substation fire at 36 St renders the whole station impassible
what do you do
runs in two sections: 9 Av - Coney Island; 205 St - Coney Island via the 
line between Broadway-Lafayette Sts and Coney Island runs in two sections: 59 St - Coney Island; Astoria-Ditmars - Coney Island via the line between Canal St and Coney Island 71 Av - Whitehall St or Atlantic Av single-track shuttle between 45 St and 95 St; excess trains lay up near 95 St or run via the line to Coney Island.4 Av, Sea Beach, and West End riders should ride the
or to Coney Island and transfer to a Manhattan bound train running on the or line.0 -
As for yours, just dump the
at 71 Av + 
+ = too many TPH.
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Okay, here's my solution:
suspended.NEXT: Due to a smoke condition, the
line on Hillside Avenue is unusable.BTW, sorry Fresh Pond. I didn't mean to be too harsh about your scenario...I just thought it was too big and crazy...
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Another weed smoker I see, eh TSS?
NEXT:
Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens and The Bronx all blow up. Reroute all trains via imaginary tunnels to Staten Island and New Jersey.
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NO.NEXT...
By some divine intervention, a raccoon chews through a cable wire and knocks out power in all of Manhattan above 106 St
...have fun lol
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Total: No service b/w 42 Street-Grand Central & Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, ( Via Lexington Avenue Local, since doesn't run there late nights.)-3 That's too many trains for the single tracks at Brooklyn Bridge and 42 St
No service b/w 125 Street & Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall.+1
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I guess that means no more suspended for the What If? thread.
You can still suspend services to your heart's content, but TSS won't enjoy it
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Well, using your and Brighton Express's logic, this is a VERY easy scenarioAre you saying no to the scenario? why lol
: Utica Av - Brooklyn Bridge, Woodlawn - Grand Centralsuspended, special fairy dust makes all trains disappear and transports them to 238 St Yard Pelham Bay Park - Grand Central0 -
NO.Next Scenario:
Again, due to the Empire State shooting, this time all tracks at 33rd Street on the
, , and are impassible. At the same time, due to an event at Madison Square Garden, extra trains have been put into service and there is no space to reroute the train to 7th Avenue. Good luck!Ah, fine. I'll solve it:
Utica Av - Brooklyn Bridge or Atlantic Av Flatbush Av - Brooklyn Bridge or Atlantic Av Woodlawn - 86 St, express, OR Woodlawn - Grand Central, local Dyre Av - E 180 St or 86 St (express in Manhattan) Pelham Bay Park - Grand Central0 -
LimitedNext: Liviona Yard and 148th St yard blow up.
This means:
1. No trains can travel between 148th St, and 135th St
2. No trains can travel east of Pennsylvania Ave
3. The IRT now has 300 less cars.
Re-route services, and alter TPH's as necessary.
service runs between 96 St and Junius St. Theoretically, all of the trains that are already in service can still run!
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TheAnother question: how come the
doesn't shorten platforms on the already to at least 6- car length? I see so many out-of-towers running when the trains zooms right by them or stops short. Is it because of the occasional F reroute, or does the think that Williamsburg, Greenpoint, etc.'s population will one day call for a lengthening? is shortened partly because the MTA doesn't have enough cars to run full length trains. Someday, I'm guessing that they'll have more (due to the R179s and R211s coming), in which case they'll want to keep the longer platforms. Additionally, it's important to be flexible for reroutes (which aren't so rare), and it'll cost money to block off the ends of the platforms (which the MTA shouldn't be spending on this).Also, I'm pretty sure that the platform exits/entrances are often at the ends.
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If this is the case, then we have escaped all reality for the sake of making easier solutions. When an unexpected service change happens (the key word being "unexpected"), there isn't time to just magically cancel all of the trains that we don't want to reroute.TheSubwayStation, I don't think we are counting if the trains are on tracks already. I think that most of these scenarios would be f*cked if they were. It is just really to show what you would do, where you would terminate trains, where you would reroute them along. The first thing I would do with a W4 scenario is probably suspend the
, and let the cover for them.Look, the
for example runs 25 trains. Those trains have to be sent somewhere. We can't just say, "Oh, lets ignore those 25 trains because the is suspended." If we're do that, then we've entered fantasy land.And no, I don't agree that most of the scenarios would be "f**ked* if we counted these trains. I think my solutions usually do count those trains, and they work perfectly well.
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I'll do the same with yours:
Total: No service b/w World Trade Center & West 4 Street, Via 8 Avenue Express-1 Well, it works assuming that the
runs via 6 Av, but that's not possible. Via 6 Avenue to Lower East Side-2 Avenue.- 3 That doesn't work for pretty clear reasons.
Via 8th Avenue Local.-1 Since you can't send the
via 6 Avenue, this would overload 8 Avenue. Besides, why would you want to have the and the switch places in the first place? No service b/w Times Square-42 Street & Atlantic Avenue-Pacific Street.+1
No service b/w Queens & Whitehall Street.+1
No service b/w Times Square-42 Street & Rector Street.+1
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I'll rate your solution using this system:
+2 = especially smart solution
+1 = good solution
0 = perfectly good, but there's a better way to do this
-1 = impractical solution
-2 = fowming
-3 = impossible solution
Total:I'll solve my own scenario:
: Suspended.-1 You can't just magically make a bunch of trains disappear from the tracks.
: No trains b/w 42nd Street-Bryant Park and West 4th Street (uses switches north of station)0 There's a better way to provide
service all the way through Manhattan IMO.: No trains b/w 57th Street and Delancey Street0 It's possible to provide
service in one section (using the 8 Avenue Line), so why not?: No trains b/w Essex Street and 71st Street.-1 What will you do with the
trains that are already in service?: No trains b/w 5th Avenue and Pacific Street.-1 DELAYS
: No trains b/w 42nd Street and Prospect Park.-1 DELAYS. See above.
: No trains b/w Whitehall Street and 71st Street.0 Okay.
PATH: Most trains run JSQ-Hobooken, others single track b/w 23rd Street and Newport.
+1 Seems good to me.
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I know nothing about PATH track maps, so I'll only do the subway lines...Weed? *cough* I *cough* don't know what you guys are *cough* talking about... aah...
Anyway, next scenario:
Because of this mornings shooting at the Empire State Building, 34th Street-Herald Square is impassible. Reroute all trains, including the PATH. (That is not optional.)
via 8 Av Express Bedford Park Blvd - 42 St-Bryant Park (uses switches south of the station); Brighton Beach - W 4 St runs in two sections: 205 St - 2 Av via 8 Av Local, Coney Island - W 4 St via 8 Av Local/53 St; select trains can run via Crosstown if necessary; select trains run between 179 St and 47-50 Sts via 63 St runs in two sections: 71 Av - 42 St-Bryant Park, terminates on the express tracks south of the station; Metropolitan Av - Chambers St runs in two sections: Ditmars Blvd - 57 St/7 Av; Coney Island - Prospect Park or Whitehall St runs in two sections: Ditmars Blvd - Times Sq/42 St; Coney Island - Whitehall St or Atlantic Av runs in two sections: 71 Av - Times Sq/42 St; Coney Island - Whitehall St
That doesn't work. Via 6 Avenue to Lower East Side-2 Avenue.0 -
No service between Nevins Street and Eastern Parkway. No service between Borough Hall and Brooklyn.
Nevins St isn't a terminal and Atlantic Avenue is impassible. Take it easy on the weed, Threxx, as you caused this scenario.Actual solution to the above scenario:
and : No trains b/w Manhattan and Atlantic Avenue (all trains in Brooklyn are labeled as ) and : No trains b/w Borough Hall and Atlantic Avenue (all trains in Brooklyn are labeled as )3 -
From all the weed that Threxx is smokingNEXT
Due to a smoke condition, Atlantic Av
is impassible. Go ahead. And remember this is SMOKE.?Okay, here we go:
Flatbush Av - Eastern Pkwy New Lots Av - Eastern Pkwy and trains that are in service past Atlantic Av should be converted to and trains. Woodlawn - Borough Hall Dyre/Nereid Av - Bowling Green terminates in Manhattan at either 14 St or Wall St. Downtown trains terminating at Wall St run local from 34 St to Chambers St so as not to interfere with trains terminating on the downtown express track at 14 St. trains run via tunnel to provide a transfer at Borough Hall3 -
Yes, they are. And I don't blame them. If you're not a buff, you probably don't read the signs (understandably) because every otherWell where do you expect the trains to come from? So you're saying that people would get on if it was labled as a
, but not as a ???? New Yorkers aren't THAT STUPID.... train you've ever been on hasn't gone to Brooklyn.Okay, I'll solve my scenario:
select trains terminate at 96 St using the line's middle track. Select trains terminate at Utica/New Lots Avs.possibly select uptown trains can terminate at 34 St - Penn Station. (I guess some trains can do this too.) Manhattan bound trains stop at Lafayette Av. Queens bound trains run local from Hoyt-Schermerhorn to Utica Av. select trains terminate at Prospect Park select trains terminate at 57 St/7 Av select trains terminate at Atlantic Av; other trains run local on 4 Av.0
Via Brighton Local.
Via Viaduct Express - Culver Express to Coney Island. If already on Manhattan Bridge, via Brighton Express.
Via Brighton Express
Terminates at whatever station they're at.
. But here is the part where common sense comes in....... If the 
extension instead?
line between Broadway-Lafayette Sts and Coney Island
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suspended.
!
doesn't shorten platforms on the 
is impassible. Go ahead. And remember this is
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