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NEXT: The Fulton Street tunnel has collapsed flooding the Fulton Complex. Reroute the .

 

I REFUSE TO DO THIS.

 

If other people don't want to do something this crazy, here's something:

 

Design a weekend GO to replace the spur between 34 St and 42 St on the 7 Avenue Line.

NEXT: design a weekend GO for replacing the switches that the uses south of 59 St.

Ahh and who was sayin the R44/R46 ain't got any speed. Hop off haters.

 

Every NYC subway car has speed IMO.

 

I was trying to keep service as normal on Queens Boulevard as possible and keep people there from complaining about the being the only local line on QB. That's why the flip.

 

I don't get it. You could just run normal service on the without flipping the and the 's terminals.

I'll assume that the stations at 59 St and 125 St are unusable for extra challenge:

 

: 34 St-Penn Station - Euclid/Lefferts/Rockaways ( runs express between 34 St and Canal St)

: 34 St-Herald Sq - Brighton Beach/Coney Island

 

207 St - 168 St

Bronx - 145 St

via local.

 

Some Queensbound terminate at Queens Plaza, some Queensbound terminate at 21 St Queensbridge.

Better to have some delays than to force people to make extra transfers are have extreme overcrowding at those stations.

 

But your solution causes severe delays, crowding and transferring.

Via Rutgers Street - 8th Avenue Local.

 

Too many TPH on one track.

 

NEXT: Manhattan bound express track at 65 St is impassible. Rules: don't overload the QBL local tracks, and Manhattan below 42 St must be served with the same number of TPH as usual.

What was the deal with the R160 Lefferts yesterday?

As I would do it:

 

Lefferts-bound trains operate via the from West 4th-Jay Street (local from 59th-West 4th Street)

Far Rockaway and Rockaway Park trains operate to and from Chambers Street via regular route.

 

 

trains operate in two sections:

 

168th Street, Manhattan-Metropolitan Avenue, Queens, operating via the from West 4th-Metropolitan Avenue and replacing the between those points.

 

Chambers Street, Manhattan-Euclid Avenue, Brooklyn.

 

 

operates to/from 14th Street, Manhattan (skipping 23rd Street, which is closed).

operates via 8th Avenue from 5th Avenue-34th Street-Penn Station, where it terminates ( replaces the from West 4th Street south).

 

Why flip around the and ? You could just terminate the at 34 St and the at Metropolitan Avenue. Crazy reroutes are better to avoid.

Is there any reason why they do this? Is it more efficient than pulling in as a and leaving as a ?

It allows for more flexibility in scheduling the and . For example, if a is supposed to depart Flatbush at a particular time, any available train can be used. Although, I don't know if they just literally use whichever train is available, or if the example train that I mentioned would always use the same train from the each time.

Did the MTA add new timers to the Manhattan bound 4 Avenue Express from 36 St to Atlantic Avenue? I'm guessing that I've just been on some delayed trains, but who knows...

A little something I noticed throughout this thread, im pretty sure others noticed it as well...

 

People would throw out their own ideas, disregard others ideas, then say they will "wait and see"...sometimes all within a single post.

 

...I don't quite see the logic behind that

 

I see what you're saying...But I didn't want to try to predict anything, which was why I said "wait and see". I just was intending to say in basic terms what would make sense for the different possibilities for where the R62As went. Then, I got into the whole business with the R142s going to the , which made it sound like yet another proposal (which I wasn't originally intending). That was my fault.

 

Of course, I don't even know if your post was directed at me...

I think the swap will continue since the R32s are the oldest and their air compressors are aging as well. But they don't need to send those R42s to the ever again (if they shift the summer swap car assignments just right like I did).

 

I think you're forgetting that the air conditioners are being replaced in the SMS.

But Westchester (not Pelham) Yard wouldn't even need the R142As anymore. Maintaining a small number of a car fleet would cost no benefit...Those R142As may have to go join the rest of the fleet at Jerome...

 

Westchester/Pelham Yard (both names are used) can't have a spare factor of only two trains, I'm pretty sure. Remember that the uses 400 trains at rush hour.

Meh... I still don't see the Being 100% R62A... There was a rumor a while back that the MTA wanted the lex expresses ( the and ) to stay NTT... IMO, It's most likey the getting them... Unlike some people here, I'm willing to wait and see... Just my two cents...

 

I'll wait and see, but I'm just trying to figure out what makes the most sense. Here's what would make sense IMO:

 

If the R62As go to the :

 

 

 

 

 

If the R62As go to the :

 

 

 

 

 

Current assignments:

 

 

 

 

 

I remember reading somewhere that the MTA said they were going to buy extra cars to increase service on the 7 Avenue IRT, so I'm guessing that they're referring to the R188s displacing R142s to the line. Since that would make sense, I included it in this post.

The reason why it seems the the R62As could go to the is that there aren't enough of them for the . If they went to the , Westchester Yard would need to have two car types (R62A and R142A).

It's just normal BS is all. Local politicians in the affected areas the 6 runs through would likely make a stink about their constituents getting "older" cars, regardless of the fact that the 62s are perfectly fine. Of course, it's not like they're about to pony up money for the early retirement of the 62s in the first place, so all it'd amount to is blowing hot air out of their asses. Like I (and several others) have said many times in this thread, when the 62A/142A switch happens in the coming months/years, someone's going to bitch and moan about it. They'll still ride the trains though because they still have to get to work.

 

I agree with you...I understand why people would complain. I just didn't understand why the line would get special treatment (I don't think it will).

My question: what's really that special about the line that will make people complain? I mean, I know that it serves the Upper East Side and that neighborhood has a reputation, but it's still just one neighborhood. It's not like there aren't other rich neighborhoods served by R62As.

Here we go again with the arguing...

 

If I said the same thing in text, would there be a problem? What is the difference?

 

Quill Depot may have overreacted a little, but he has a good point. When people make honest mistakes, you should try to give them a little respect...The point of memes is to do the opposite.

 

NEXT:

The line is impassible between 103 St and 96 St. No trains can use the middle track north of 96 St.

I still think they're going to the . There's really a perfect number of R62As available for that; Westchester Yard should have a slightly increased spare factor and the excess R142As from the can go to the . That leaves the right number of trains; no mixed fleets.

This is old news, they are already rehabbing them.......

 

Yup. I appreciate that Shortline provided an official MTA article, but he's late to the party.

 

Suggestion: can people please stop bashing particular subway cars, whether or not people think they deserve it? Sure, some cars are definitely better than others, but I (and plenty of others) have never run into trouble with any of them. I can't imagine how much time R32 3838 must spend riding trains to be able to make judgements about breakdowns. Let's just enjoy the trains, whichever types they are...

That was my fault:

 

Add a shuttle train between Chambers and South Ferry, though people looking for those stations could take other lines to get other trains that stop relatively close to those station. Also add a shuttle between 96th Street and 148th-Lenox for the

 

This is also why, BTW, I would re-activate the old SF station to be used by a mix of the (when operating to lower Manhattan but not Brooklyn), (overnights, extended from Brooklyn Bridge), and a revival of the old Bowling Green-South Ferry , mostly on weekdays and using the short platform at BG and OUTER loop at SF, which would have new stairways added with the station brought up to ADA compliance (which would be a good idea anyway for other reasons)..

 

You can't just instantly reopen a station because of an emergency service change.

Why not?

 

Too many TPH on one track.

give the damn or R68/A's already, the R68's would be perfect for the that would shut everyone up IMO.

 

There's nobody talking but railfans, whom the MTA wisely doesn't care about. I mean, I understand that the R32s are unpopular but that'll remain true wherever you put them.

From Brooklyn:

Via Broadway Express to 57 St/7 Ave.

Via Cranberry Street - 8th Avenue Express - 53 Street. Select trains run to Delancy Street. Select trains run to 34 Street-Herald Square via 63 Street.

To Chambers Street.

 

From The Bronx / Queens:

To 34 Street-Herald Square.

Via 53 Street - 8th Avenue Express - Cranberry Street.

To World Trade Center or 34 Street-Herald Square.

 

Your reroute doesn't really work.