Culver

I have to get a ride on one one of these days and find out what's up with these shuttles. Bunch of buses were short-turning at Houston St as well, bizarre. Think I saw you out there, looking forward to shots.

Are these subway-related? I've managed to miss what service change they're supplementing.

 

Who said it was an evil plot? We're just talking about services being more efficient.  

 

This "phenomenon" that you're posting about is something I've posted about some time ago on this forum way before you were even a member here so spare me with I know so much about Brooklyn BS. I grew up in Brooklyn and was raised there and I've been using the B6 going back to the 90's, so I know what I'm talking about.  I've seen B6's bunch on weekends, esp. Saturdays so no, you're amazing find isn't that unique.  Nice of you to specify NOW that it's during the rush.  A minor detail you left out.

 

I discuss the B6 below and it's bunching and for me, 3 was perfectly normal and often and four certainly is not that rare or random from my experiences.

 

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/25279-b11-idea-extend-it-to-ralph-ave/page-3?do=findComment&comment=364264

 

 

 

 

 

I never disputed that but seeing B6's bunch is certainly not ironic or random.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll respond one last time and then I'll just start pressing the report button. I didn't say it was amazing. I said it was random. Random thought thread. Four buses at once is rather random, regardless of what your bullshit experience says. You may have been raised here, but you're a pampered suburbanite. You're as much a "city" person as some kid from Syracuse. You're scared shitless of even stepping foot in half the city. And BTW, you wanna know how I specified in my first post that it was rush hour? By saying that I just saw it, and then there's a timestamp on my post. You want a medal for using the B6 in the 90s? Guess what, I used it, too. And the B82 and other routes. And so did thousands of others. Doesn't make anyone an expert in it. I mean hell you actually thought I was going to see that and think "wow, now *this* guy knows what he's talking about." Stop trolling me. I made a damn random post.

For the sane folks in this thread:

Gotta say, those XD-40s get pretty rattly for their age.

Actually VG8 most of the bunching on the B6 is from traffic

I like how sane people can look at the schedule and realize that it was obviously traffic and not some evil plot to run four B6 buses in a row to make VG8 suffer a nervous breakdown about no weekend X28 service.

9849 Q67 run 657

9905 Q103 run 108

Also, what's going on with the old C40s I haven't seen one in a while

Saw an older C40 on B11 this afternoon, but didn't catch the number. Too far away.

Not on the B6 it isn't.  It's the norm and I know because I see the B6's along Avenue J in packs of 3 and 4 regularly going back to when I lived in Midwood and even now when I visit the area. The hypocrisy is you claiming that you're so in favor of transportation being "efficient", but apparently it's only for the services that you deem unnecessary or inefficient.

This is pointless. You live and visit everywhere at all times and at this point you're making shit up. You know who sees the B6 literally every single work day? >THIS GUY<, as in, Me. During rush hours, *4* B6s in a row is not normal. Two is perfectly normal, three happens, and four happens rarely. It was worth a damn "random thought" post in the "Random Thoughts" thread. I regret making the post, though, seeing as how I got you trolling every one of my posts with your batshit insanity. Isn't there an Ayn Rand bookclub meeting or douchebag wine bar you can go to? Thanks for turning a random post into a trollfest.

@peacemaker and Culver

 

True. Though you also gotta remember that not everyone knows every part of the system like we do. In the minds of the and riders, their train goes to Flatbush but are constantly battlefield by those limit runs to Utica/New Lots Avenues. And the C/R has to manually announced that their train is being rerouted down the rest of the Eastern Parkway corridor and then down the Livonia Avenue line. I agree that the questions they ask though are stupid especially since the C/R has already announced what their train is doing and the average riders still don't follow through.

I'll give em a pass on underground stations, not on elevated stations where one can plainly see in broad daylight that there is no physical way for the train to magically go anywhere but further down the el.

I just find it interesting how you view resources being used and the hypocrisy in your way of thinking.  I don't know what was so "random" or special about you seeing 4 B6's together.  They always run like that even going back to when I lived in Midwood.

What hypocrisy? It was "random" because generally 4 buses in a row is random, usually from traffic. It's a random thought based on a sight that isn't entirely common. Cocaine's a hell of a drug, eh?

Exactly like the X28 which averaged over 700 riders on weekends... 

Yeah. But not really. Can you let go already? Dude, seek help. You got so offended you've been trolling me about this shit for like a month now nonstop.

Stupid question. haven't found an answer. Really, really apologize if it's been answered. Search on these forums isn't very good.

Will the split have the usual 59 St. dropouts/put-ins that the full route has during rush hours? I'm guessing with the short route, the Court-95 portion will just have all trains run the full length and have trains deadhead from 95 St when service winds down for midday.

Saw this this morning as well.

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The awkward moment when you get off the for the at Kings Highway and at DeKalb, the same rolls up running on the line and you get on the same car you got off of at Kings Highway.  On top of that, arriving at Court Street, people asking if this was running on the line even after the conductor said it was..I mean honestly, where else would this go?! The ? FFS.

It's like when a gets run down the Culver...outside...and the conductor blares over the PA "ALL STOPS TO CONEY ISLAND, ALL LOCAL STOPS TO CONEY ISLAND" and half the platform still doesn't get on because it's not an train. Cause that train will totally fly off the tracks and land at Bay 50 St on the West End.

lol 4278?

 

4278 is one of those Yukon S79 buses...

 

maybe it was 4878

You right.

You mean local buses can be empty too? Better cut 'em... 

^ Can I report this guy for being a troll or something?

Yes, even one empty bus = let's cut everything by my logic, ignoring the fact that it was 4 buses in a row and the front two ended up picking up all the load. Exactly like the X25, which averaged 4 people a bus.

Saw *four* B6es in a row heading south on Bay Parkway. Figure they're past 86 St if not Cropsey by now. Two RTS at front and two empty XD-40s behind them (well, one did have a person on it, so there's that). The first XD-40 dropped off people at 65 St. Didn't catch any of the numbers on the buses except the last one, which I think was 4878*. Must've been some traffic back east.

EDIT: Hat tip to Xcelsior person for correcting number

Why is there no public transportation, like the MTA, all the way out on Breezy Point?

Same as Seagate, it's an entirely private community and they don't want buses in there.

According to this... http://www.thejoekorner.com/carassignments/index.html

 

After the gets split in two sections, the Southern Portion of the will use Coney Island Alstom R160's and the will have 16-17 trains of R46 during Rush Hour...

 

...Now that roster isn't 100% accurate. (Actually it mostly is, but the likes to change things at the last second ). Anyway, if you notice it says R160B-1 on the only. Same with the . If the still uses Siemens, then the will most likely as well. Also, I'm pretty sure Jamaica Yard will send some of its R160s back to CI (Likely 9198-9232) (until the service gets restored), or CI won't have enough R160s to put on the (It makes sense when you look at it, otherwise CI would be short on cars and JY would have all these extra R160s). 

 

Like I said, its not 100% accurate. It also says the is 100% R68 (No R68A, which is not true). 

 

But i'm looking forward to those R46 . It will be the old days all over again . (Now if only they would bring back the R32 ).

Seems plausible to me. Nice to see the ole R46s back on the F. Though I wish they were in better shape. The reason I like the R160s is they're obviously in great shape and have quite a bit of giddyup. Those Jamaica R46s often have bucking, are creaky and just plain slow compared to the R160s. Still, nostalgia and all, I'm cool with it.

Then why even ask why it isn't lowered to $5?    Seems like a rhetorical question.

It was. Hence "Random Thoughts" thread. I even specified that it was a random thought. Not bothering with the rest of your manifesto there...

Just saw 7087 being loaded onto a tractor trailor at Zerega...whats up with that?

That's the second one being hauled off, right? Did ever get 7088 back?

Who said anything about being special?  They cost more to run just like commuter trains (which I can't believe you seriously didn't know that) and they function the same way in which commuter trains do, which is to bring people who live OUTSIDE of Manhattan TO the BUSINESS CENTER.  Period.  This has nothing to do with class or any of that BS.  It's just a simple fact.  That's why all of them end either in Midtown or Downtown to bring people to the business centers and if you need to go elsewhere you use the subway or the local bus.

The cost argument kind of figures into the fact that the fare is higher, so you're not discovering America here.

You really need to read the stuff you're posting. It's amazing. You are offended I dared even suggest that express buses are in any way related to regular services. Tremendous stuff. Still doesn't give any sane answer to "hey maybe make the fare $5 since it still uses a MetroCard" thing. Not like express bus users have never used local buses to connect. Again, I acknowledge the fact that you can't make it $5 because they need the revenues (hence the random thought), but this has been a fantastic back and forth. I'll be on the lookout in the future to make sure I don't offend express buses on these threads. LOL.

That still doesn't mean they aren't commuter buses.  It doesn't matter who runs them.  Their primary purpose is to carry riders from the outerboroughs outside of the city borders to Manhattan. The Hudson Rail Link buses use Metrocards also and the LIRR and MNRR are run by the and they're still commuter services.  It has nothing to do with being special.  

 

Last I checked Yonkers was not within the city, nor is Lake Success.    The Bee Line BxM4C bus accepts MetroCards too and runs from Westchester, but I guess that's not a commuter bus either.  Smh

I acknowledged the BxM3. That still doesn't explain your hilarious "OMG IT'S COMMUTERZ" response. I mean, you could've just said "hey, well they'd make less money if they charged $5, and budget is tight" in response to my random thought and I would've been like "yeah that makes sense, just throwing it out there." You went straight to the "IT'S SPECIAL" line and then explaining to us how express buses are totally special and different from everything else in the world, which was trollifically funny.

The distance doesn't matter.  Express buses carry commuters TO AND FROM Manhattan from areas outside of the city and that's their main purpose.

 

"An express bus service (also known as commuter bus service) is a bus service that is intended to run faster than normal bus services between the same two commuter points."

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Express_bus_service

Yes. And they run within the city. Run by the . Run out of regular depots. And use MetroCard for payment. You're not special. I wish you knew how hilarious it is to read your brand of crazy.

Yo the s79 is astraight up a piece of shyt...

 

I regret riding it today...

 

I was on 4253 and it was crawling up the bridge at 25-30 mph...

rattling like crazy

 

what a select they call this

Tell me about it. The ride on Narrows Road on those things is unbearable. I start to feel bad for the Yukon depot workers having to maintain those things after a ride down that street both ways.

 

 

Nope.  The cost of the express bus has NOTHING to do with the cost to run the local bus and therefore the cost should not be double. If that's the case then MetroNorth and the LIRR would be double the subway.  Completely foolish, since the express bus like MNRR and the LIRR are COMMUTER services and the subway and bus are city services.

Oh for f**k's sake are you serious? OK, let's go over this again: you live in New York City. You use a MetroCard to pay. The express bus is a city service, whether you like to believe that or not. Filthy peasants like myself are allowed to use them, too. In fact, the BM1/2/3/4 all have "commuter" stops relatively close to Manhattan. The express buses are not a separate service that runs in a separate world from the peasant transit lines called the subways and local buses. They operate within the boundaries of NYC (yeah, I know there's the one that goes to Yonkers), they are Bus or NYCT Bus services. They run out of depots. They are not a magic, separate service that places you above others. Just once, ONCE, can you make an argument on sensible reasoning and not your Randian obsession with class? You know what else is a "commuter" service? The subway. And local buses. Us plebeians have jobs, too, and we use the subways and buses to get to them.

Here's a reasonable argument for why $5 wouldn't work: it would decrease revenues. As it was a random thought, I hope it doesn't get judged too harshly.

Random thought: make the express bus fare $5 so it's exactly double the local fare. Everything simpler when it's in increments of in this case $2.50. Next fare hike, $6 express, $3 everything else.

Sounds like a good idea.
BM6-downtown variant of the BM1
BM7-downtown variant of the BM2
BM8-downtown variant of the BM3
BM9-downtown variant of the BM4

I like it. Would certainly make it easier for people rushing to the bus in the morning to look at route number and see where bus goes.

But either choose the MTA Bus system or the NYCT system---create a unified network.

Well they can't until the merger is 100% done. I'm sure they'll use the X prefix for all express routes at that point.

So 4255 this morning had the outside rubber liner for the rear doors peeling off pretty much from window height down to the bottom. At the bottom it was sticking off about 6 inches from the bus. Good maintenance, Yukon.

I know but at this rate it looks like it would be a rushed order...

Good thing the keeps delaying the order, eh?

staten island bus service is f**ked up this morning!

 

and it all starts because the upper level of the bridge is closed

 

so much f**ked up shyt on the s53/s52/s79/ express buses

Lovely...I'm a few minutes away from getting on an S79...

Didn't catch the number, but saw an XD-40 downtown BK today on the B25. Sideskirts on the left side were messed up. One was gray, two next to it had the white paint almost all pealed/scraped off. Good maintenance.