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  1. Conductor 6601 Hiring Process

    @jmksi, great questions. I'm curious as well. I'll be relieved when they start processing people who passed the oral proficiency assessment (OPA). I know there were rumors of a hiring freeze for conductors. Clearly Transit is hiring for other titles.
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    Newbies are often sacrificed when new labor contracts are drafted. I believe 7 years to top pay has been LIRR policy and part of their labor contracts for a few years. Of course unionized workers there make more, but then again there are far more positions in similar trades at NYC Transit. If it takes me 7 years to top pay instead of 5 years I'd still happily take the job.
  3. Conductor 6601 Hiring Process

    @SevenEleven, thank you for posting that. It's very helpful.
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    @Schecter, good question. I was under the impression that conductors now start at roughly $22 per hour with pay going up roughly $2 per hour every year until you reach top pay (in 5 or 6 years from the day you start school car). I know the rate referenced in the original Notice of Examination for 6601 isn't accurate because it reflected the entry level rate paid under the old contract, and the entry level rate has definitely increased substantially. If anyone has better info please advise as to the current starting rate and the annual incremental increases until you reach top pay. There are also night and weekend differentials, daily OT for hours worked beyond 8 hours, and extra pay if you do other work like flagging.
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    @Nyctransitorhotels, you're correct, to a point. At top pay, per the rate card available from TWU Local 100, the hourly pay differential between conductors and train operators isn't enormous. It's maybe $2 and change. The big difference is starting wages, which are about $10 apart per hour. So the difference narrows tremendously by the time you reach full pay, which I think is your 5th year (please correct me if I'm wrong, it may be your 6th anniversary of employment). The difference in starting wages is what led me not to take the conductor exam the prior time it was offered, when I should have focused on final wages. It was a mistake, and also my perspective has changed over the years. In my view train operators have so many additional responsibilities and their training is so much more difficult (and longer) that I'd be happy giving them the additional $2.50 per hour as a fair trade. I'd most likely stay as conductor and learn to live on the $8-12k less per year I'd make than a train operator in return for having less stress and responsibilities. To each their own. Some love the idea of being a motorman, the physical operation and control of the train, or making every last dollar. I want to make enough to get by and minimize on the job stress. I think there will be enough opportunities to make money through night/weekend differentials and picking up OT that comes my way.
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    @hmc12989, I agree that T/O should be promotional only. Coming in off the street is a tremendous opportunity for those who make it, but the failure rate for people in those classes is shockingly high. It's a combination of learning a whole new language and mechanical systems/signals in a very short time and the pressure of being threatened with termination every day of your training. You will make mistakes, and when you make those mistakes you could be fired from Transit if you come in off the street - it doesn't mean you will be terminated, but the threat is there, and that makes the whole experience that much more unpleasant and stressful, and leads to more mistakes due to being so nervous because you're worried about being fired.
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    @Schecter, mistakes happen on any job. But, yes, some conductors open the doors on the wrong side - it's a matter of not paying attention, lack of situational awareness. And probably the biggest mistake you can make as a conductor. Train operators have a lot more responsibility, which is why their training period is much longer and their pay rate is much higher. @hmc12989, I don't like to see anyone lose their job or be threatened with losing their job. But safe door operation is central to what conductors do.
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    @N1CKR, thanks for the link. That was a great article - for those who haven't read it, it discusses operational mistakes made by train operators and suggests it was a mistake for Transit to allow people to start as train operators (open/competitive). Not directly applicable to conductors, though.
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    @CocoaMint29, for most of us, most of the time, we're not promised a job interview or a job. We risked $85 (was it $65? it was more than $50, I remember that) and a half day of testing for a potential opportunity, not a guarantee of employment. And per the MTA website NYC Transit only has 48,000 employees in total, which includes many trades and titles. So, yes, most of those who passed this exam won't be hired. The relevant questions include how many conductors will be processed for how many anticipated job openings, and at what pace? It doesn't look like Transit will begin hiring from this list until at least two years after the test was offered, so does that mean the list will be active for at least 4 years from the exam date, or from when the list is established? I'm hoping to get called but not relying on it. I scored decently (95, 50xx) but not as high as I had wanted to. We'll see what happens.
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    @jimmyvn, I have the same question. I got 95, #50XX. I know it could be quite a while but on the last list they got almost to 10,000 - not that they hired 10,000 conductors, but that they processed people up to almost 10,000 on the list. Crazy how answering another question or two correctly puts you so far ahead on the list when this many people take the exam.
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    @161 New York, thanks for the explanation. That's the clearest and most logical way to explain this process. OPA is like the BOSS, or even more like the drug test - if you test dirty you'll be disqualified even if you answered every question correctly on the written open-competitive exam. If they don't like your answers or speaking ability on the OPA then you'll be disqualified even if you answered every question correctly on the written open-competitive exam. We do need to be patient, though it's difficult - much of this process is still out of our hands.
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    I'm relieved a list has been finally established. I got my results in the mail today. Score is 95, list number roughly 5000. Very disappointed in myself that I missed a few answers, but we'll just have to see how the process goes. I'm turning my attention to a few other civil service exams and other opportunities.
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    @Jchambers2120, I was amazed with the scores. It's crazy and a bit depressing for those of us who scored "well" but not as well as we hoped.
  14. Conductor 6601 Hiring Process

    How do they establish your list number? By that I mean, how do they distinguish among the hundreds or thousands of people who achieved the same adjusted score on the exam?
  15. Conductor 6601 Hiring Process

    Ah, well. We'll just have to see how fast they process people from the list, and how many people per month they actually bring into school car classes.


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