Gotham Bus Co.

From Main, buses could have used 39th Avenue to the terminal and 37th Avenue from it. From Kissena, buses would have merged into Main and then used 39th Avenue to the terminal and 37th Avenue from it.

When the Main Street Station was being rehabbed, the initial design concept actually included an underground passageway to a bus terminal on the site of the former Municipal Parking Field #1. Both the local politicians and Community Board #7 bitterly opposed that concept because passengers would have been able to move directly between trains and buses without walking past (and thus seeing) any street-level stores. Of course, the owners of those stores also oppose the use of curb space for bus stops.

I might combine it with the Q19.

No, the bus must be rerouted to Main St when it leaves Vleigh Place (i.e. follow the old Q74): north on Vleigh Place, right at 73rd Terrace/75th Avenue, quick left into Main Street. Then you can turn right on 73rd Avenue and keep going. Of course, the folks on that part of 73rd Avenue might also go NIMBY. I would go further and say to give up the Q73 idea in favor of extending the Q64 along 73rd Avenue east of 164th Street. (Of course, I would also expect the folks on 73rd between 164th and 188 Streets to fully oppose a bus on their street.)

That loop on 73rd Terrace would bring out the NIMBY crowd like nothing else. The route would have to do the quick jog onto Main Street for one block.

Meanwhile, 3829 was on the Q27 yesterday morning.

That was the original M8 (part of the Avenue B and East Broadway Bus Company). The part east of Essex Street was absorbed by the M14A. The part west of Essex never had enough riders to justify keeping the route. At one time, there was also the M12 Delancey Street Crosstown, which ran a 45-minute headway with one bus all day.

I'm guessing you'd use 164th Street to transition from Jewel to 73rd Avenues. Don't be surprised to hear loud cries of NIMBY along 73rd between 164th and 188th Streets.

In keeping with M60 and Q70, your new route should be the B80.

First: No route is "profitable" — some simply cover more of their costs than others. Second: The real question for the B36 is the level of through riding at Stillwell. Do entire bus loads from Sea Gate leave and whole new loads board? Or is there a significant proportion of riders who stay on the bus — and if so, where do they go? (As an extreme example, splitting the Q44 in Flushing would be operationally convenient, but it can never happen because of the huge numbers of Jamaica-to-Bronx riders who already transfer from other buses and would be forced to transfer again and pay a second fare. BTW... If anybody has ideas for this, please add them to the Queens Bus Proposal topic.)

Maybe it can loop around the industrial area south of 147th and east of Brewer.

Doesn't Springfield already run to 147th Avenue?

Maybe that problem can be solved with a simple tweak of fare policy: Get rid of all transfer privileges in favor of a 3-or-4-hour pass — i.e. an initial swipe or dip gets you unlimited use of the base system (local bus, subway, S.I. Railway) for 3 or 4 hours. Was "not too many" an absolute reference, or was it relative to total M104 ridership?

Is there really a need for a 28th/29th Street Crosstown? It might be (barely) more useful to just extend the M34 to Chelsea Piers.

There are 40+ artics assigned to CS just for the Q44 — it was converted to artics a while ago.

Maybe send the Q34 to Fort Totten or Bay Terrace, then combine the two Q16 branches into one (Utopia).

Socially, Riverdale may feel like Manhattan, but physically it's part of the Bronx. That's not just an "opinon" but a geographic fact which anybody can look up and which Riverdale residents must accept.

By definition, they are "associated with the Bronx" because Riverdale IS part of the Bronx whether they like it or not. If they'd rather live elsewhere, then they should move elsewhere. Pretending that Riverdale is an independent municipality doesn't make it one.

If you don't want to be associated with the Bronx, then don't live in Bronx County.

Umm... Riverdale is part of the Bronx, but will never admit it. In fact, some Riverdale folks were very upset over the 1989 restructuring that created the Bx20 by shortening the M100, because they liked having a route with a Manhattan number as their primary service.

Can CP handle articulated buses?

Why would a suburban school admit Queens residents?

And why do New York City taxpayers need to subsidize suburban trippers?

As somebody else asked about another proposal, "Is there a demand for such a route like that?"

Easy... Move the Q65 from Bowne to Kissena so it can help the Q17, Q25, Q27, Q34.