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Nexis4Jersey

New York Regional Rail Expansion?

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Alright, as nice as some people would like to see a new NJT Rail service to Lower Manhattan via Hoboken, its complete, utter waste. Why the hell do we have the PATH train for? Thats the purpose of having the Hoboken-World Trade Center line during the weekdays. It takes 10 minutes to get from one end to the other. And that line isn't overcrowded.

 

The money these monkeys wanna spend for a new deep deep deep Hoboken station and tunnels and other stations, could be used to redo PATH stations to accomodate 10 car trains.

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Valid points made.

There is barely any incentive for Amtrak, a national rail line, to go into Long Island, which is serviced as a suburban/exurban market. Besides, nobody will ride it concerning their fares. A direct ride from Newark to Hempstead could possibly go up to $25. Who is going to ride that?

 

Underwater tunnels are extremely hard to build. It's not the same as a tunnel under soil. You have to make sure that the tunnel wouldn't flood, that if submerged tubes are being used that the tubes don't float up. Building a new station for NJT next to around the same one around may sound ridiculous to some. But what is absolutely pathetic is the fact that those monkeys want the line to continue in a loop around Midtown.

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Underwater Tunnels are easier to build and faster , just ask the Dutch and Japanese. An ALT NEC can start in Newark , run under Hoboken , Manhattan and pop up in Brooklyn somewhere. Then continue east on LI and cross over somewhere into Eastern CT. The line itself would probably cost between 10-15 billion $$$ and take 10 years to build. But would serve a larger slice of the Northeast. Tunneling is very easy these days with Tech and powerful TBM's. I also heard that Amtrak was going to replace the East & Pennsylvania Tunnels anyway due to old age and under capacity.

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Underwater Tunnels are easier to build and faster , just ask the Dutch and Japanese. An ALT NEC can start in Newark , run under Hoboken , Manhattan and pop up in Brooklyn somewhere. Then continue east on LI and cross over somewhere into Eastern CT. The line itself would probably cost between 10-15 billion $$$ and take 10 years to build. But would serve a larger slice of the Northeast. Tunneling is very easy these days with Tech and powerful TBM's. I also heard that Amtrak was going to replace the East & Pennsylvania Tunnels anyway due to old age and under capacity.

That's a joke. If they are built faster, look at the Mamaray in Istanbul. If you say faster, then why are some underground lines up before than that mammoth? There are so many risks involved in underwater construction, we had several incidents alone in building the East River tunnels a century back.

 

Also, you mentioned Japan and the Dutch. But this is America where any civil project would be drawn out due to many factors.

 

Also, how would the Amtrak line swing into Suffolk and across the Sound to Conneticut. That is a huge distance right there. You have GOT to be kidding me.

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