king of car subway

[franck combe]

Hello,

I'm a dummy in car subway.

I would like to know which kind of car is this one on the photo.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F8fv34vp7uqd91.jpg

I would like yo know also which kind of cars was used in Brooklyn in the beginning of the  90's.

[zacster]

That's an R10, probably on the way to the scrapper.

[Vulturious]

7 hours ago, franck combe said:

Hello,

I'm a dummy in car subway.

I would like to know which kind of car is this one on the photo.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F8fv34vp7uqd91.jpg

I would like yo know also which kind of cars was used in Brooklyn in the beginning of the  90's.

Since the first question was answered, I'll answer the second. The MTA had a bunch of cars running around in the early 90's. 

• The R26/28/29 are IRT trains that ran throughout the 90's retiring in 2002.
• The R30's were operating on specific lines like the  and (the Rockaway ), but they were retired around the beginning of the 90's.
• The R32's were everywhere in the 90's even in the 2000's until the R160's came in shifting a bunch of them elsewhere or retirement. You'd find them on the   and . 
• There were 2 different kinds of R33's, mainline (R33) and World's Fair (R33S or R33WF). Mainline is everything but the  so all of 7 Av and Lexington Av lines, World's Fair is the , don't ask me about what the differences are. The  is just one of those lines that require special cars like the R188's currently running around.
• The R36's is another mainline train that ran in the 90's, it retired in 2003 on the  as more R142/A's were delivered.
• The R38's was mainly running on the  in the 90's and retired in 2009.
• Like the R33's, there were 2 different variants of the R40, the R40S (slant face) and the R40M (not slanted). Both retired officially in 2009.
  • The R40S were mainly based out of Coney Island yard for the  and East New York yard for the  (still don't know why there's no circle emoji when there used to be one) and . Later in the late 90's they were running on other lines like the  and .
  • The R40M were based out of ENY for the  and stayed that way until the early 2000's had them based out of CIY running along the  and .
• From what I remember, the R42's were mainly an ENY train running along the  lines, they had appearances along the Queens Blvd line like the , but these were later on.
• The R44's were pretty much just on the  and  as well as the  until it got discontinued during the early 90's, nothing much else during those times.
• The R46's were based out of Jamaica yard all throughout the 90's along the .
• The R62/A's were mainline IRT trains all over for all 7 Av and Lexington Av. They didn't appear on the  until the 2000's when the R142/A's were being delivered in the late 90's
• Last but not least are the R68/A's, really nothing different from today's service, they were and still are based out of both Concourse and CIY. The  has always had them since its introduction and Concourse loves them and CIY had them running along the  and . I don't think they ran them on the  until in the late 2000's.

These are all the trains that ran during the early 90's with extra info just for the fun of it, I do hope someone can correct me on all this in case I got something wrong or missed a few things.

[franck combe]

Hi,

Thank you for yours quick replies and very precise 

I'm a french modelrailroder and I want to do a layout that replicate this specific location in Brooklyn (second avenue / 41 st ). So I want to be sure to buy the right version of subway car.

[FLX9304]

14 hours ago, Vulturious said:

Since the first question was answered, I'll answer the second. The MTA had a bunch of cars running around in the early 90's. 

• The R26/28/29 are IRT trains that ran throughout the 90's retiring in 2002.
• The R30's were operating on specific lines like the  and (the Rockaway ), but they were retired around the beginning of the 90's.
• The R32's were everywhere in the 90's even in the 2000's until the R160's came in shifting a bunch of them elsewhere or retirement. You'd find them on the   and . 
• There were 2 different kinds of R33's, mainline (R33) and World's Fair (R33S or R33WF). Mainline is everything but the  so all of 7 Av and Lexington Av lines, World's Fair is the , don't ask me about what the differences are. The  is just one of those lines that require special cars like the R188's currently running around.
• The R36's is another mainline train that ran in the 90's, it retired in 2003 on the  as more R142/A's were delivered.
• The R38's was mainly running on the  in the 90's and retired in 2009.
• Like the R33's, there were 2 different variants of the R40, the R40S (slant face) and the R40M (not slanted). Both retired officially in 2009.
  • The R40S were mainly based out of Coney Island yard for the  and East New York yard for the  (still don't know why there's no circle emoji when there used to be one) and . Later in the late 90's they were running on other lines like the  and .
  • The R40M were based out of ENY for the  and stayed that way until the early 2000's had them based out of CIY running along the  and .
• From what I remember, the R42's were mainly an ENY train running along the  lines, they had appearances along the Queens Blvd line like the , but these were later on.
• The R44's were pretty much just on the  and  as well as the  until it got discontinued during the early 90's, nothing much else during those times.
• The R46's were based out of Jamaica yard all throughout the 90's along the .
• The R62/A's were mainline IRT trains all over for all 7 Av and Lexington Av. They didn't appear on the  until the 2000's when the R142/A's were being delivered in the late 90's
• Last but not least are the R68/A's, really nothing different from today's service, they were and still are based out of both Concourse and CIY. The  has always had them since its introduction and Concourse loves them and CIY had them running along the  and . I don't think they ran them on the  until in the late 2000's.

These are all the trains that ran during the early 90's with extra info just for the fun of it, I do hope someone can correct me on all this in case I got something wrong or missed a few things.

Correct on some, but not all. 

R30/30A 8250-8411 & 8412-8569 ran on both the  and the  

R32s ran on  Phase 1 & GE,  Phase 1 & GE,  Phase 1 & 2,  Phase 1 & 2,  Phase 2

R26/28/29: 

7750-7959 & 8688-8805 to the , then the  

8570-8687 to the  

R33 ML: listen real close: 

8806-8835 on the  

8836-8883, 8886-8967, 8970-9113, 9115-9130, 9132-9179, 9212, 9214-9215 on the  until 1994, then the  

9180-9211  

9216-9223, 9226-9305  

R33/36WF: 9307-9477 & 9558-9769 to the  

9478-9523 & R36MLs 9524-9557 to the  

R38:  &  

R40: 4150-4349 to the B, 4350-4449 to the L after 1991 and sometimes on the M.  when 8350-8411 was transferred to the C

R40M & R42: 4450-4549 & 4550-4839 to the J/Z. 4840-4949 to the L & M

R44: on the A, and a few month on the JFK

R46: on the F, G & R 

R62: 1301-1625 (lost 1435-1437, 1439-1440 & 1366-1370) on the 4 

R62A: 1651-1910 on the 6, 1911-2155 to the 3, 2156-2475 to the 1

R68: 2500-2783 to the D, 2784-2915 to the CI yard, 2916-2924 to the Franklin Ave Shuttle 

R68A: N/Q

[franck combe]

Thank you for the more detailed informations. 

[darkstar8983]

From what I remember in the 90s;

 - R38s and R44s (Rockaway  had R44s too)

 - R40S (switched for R68As in the mid 90s)

 - 8-car R32 and 8-car R38

 - R68

 - R46s (switched to R32s in the mid 90s)

 - R46s (occasional R32s ran too)

 - 8-car R32s (switched to 6-car R46s)

 - R40M and R42s

 - R42

 - R40M, R40S, R42

 - R32, R68, R40S

- R68A (switched to R40S from the   in the mid 90s)

 - R46s (an occasional R32 would appear)

 - R62A

 - R26/R28/R33 (mixed with the )

 - 9-car R62A

 - R62 and R33

 - R26/R28/R33 (mixed with the )

 - R29 R62A

 - R33, R36 (11-car units)

 

[Vulturious]

5 hours ago, FLX9304 said:

Correct on some, but not all. 

R30/30A 8250-8411 & 8412-8569 ran on both the  and the  

R32s ran on  Phase 1 & GE,  Phase 1 & GE,  Phase 1 & 2,  Phase 1 & 2,  Phase 2

R26/28/29: 

7750-7959 & 8688-8805 to the , then the  

8570-8687 to the  

R33 ML: listen real close: 

8806-8835 on the  

8836-8883, 8886-8967, 8970-9113, 9115-9130, 9132-9179, 9212, 9214-9215 on the  until 1994, then the  

9180-9211  

9216-9223, 9226-9305  

R33/36WF: 9307-9477 & 9558-9769 to the  

9478-9523 & R36MLs 9524-9557 to the  

R38:  &  

R40: 4150-4349 to the B, 4350-4449 to the L after 1991 and sometimes on the M.  when 8350-8411 was transferred to the C

R40M & R42: 4450-4549 & 4550-4839 to the J/Z. 4840-4949 to the L & M

R44: on the A, and a few month on the JFK

R46: on the F, G & R 

R62: 1301-1625 (lost 1435-1437, 1439-1440 & 1366-1370) on the 4 

R62A: 1651-1910 on the 6, 1911-2155 to the 3, 2156-2475 to the 1

R68: 2500-2783 to the D, 2784-2915 to the CI yard, 2916-2924 to the Franklin Ave Shuttle 

R68A: N/Q

You know, I always forget about the Franklin Shuttle. I'm kinda surprised I forgot about the R32's on the  and , especially since i have taken all 3 at one point, too. IIRC, I'm pretty sure the R68A also appeared on the  in normal service more often during the 90's or rather early 90's. Though, I wouldn't know for sure.

[FLX9304]

3 hours ago, Vulturious said:

You know, I always forget about the Franklin Shuttle. I'm kinda surprised I forgot about the R32's on the  and , especially since i have taken all 3 at one point, too. IIRC, I'm pretty sure the R68A also appeared on the  in normal service more often during the 90's or rather early 90's. Though, I wouldn't know for sure.

Occasionally 

[FLX9304]

7 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

From what I remember in the 90s;

 - R38s and R44s (Rockaway  had R44s too)

 - R40S (switched for R68As in the mid 90s)

 - 8-car R32 and 8-car R38

 - R68

 - R46s (switched to R32s in the mid 90s)

 - R46s (occasional R32s ran too)

 - 8-car R32s (switched to 6-car R46s)

 - R40M and R42s

 - R42

 - R40M, R40S, R42

 - R32, R68, R40S

- R68A (switched to R40S from the   in the mid 90s)

 - R46s (an occasional R32 would appear)

 - R62A

 - R26/R28/R33 (mixed with the )

 - 9-car R62A

 - R62 and R33

 - R26/R28/R33 (mixed with the )

 - R29 R62A

 - R33, R36 (11-car units)

 

You forgot R29s on the 2/5

[darkstar8983]

7 hours ago, FLX9304 said:

You forgot R29s on the 2/5

Thanks 😬

[zacster]

With the route swaps because of the Manhattan Bridge it's hard to remember what ran where.  One thing I remember is driving on the Belt Parkway across CI yard and seeing all of the slants signed up for whatever was running on the Brighton Express at the time, when previously it had been R68s the prior week.  Sure enough, Monday morning came and it was all slants.  Not sure what was switched with what though.

[darkstar8983]

8 hours ago, zacster said:

With the route swaps because of the Manhattan Bridge it's hard to remember what ran where.  One thing I remember is driving on the Belt Parkway across CI yard and seeing all of the slants signed up for whatever was running on the Brighton Express at the time, when previously it had been R68s the prior week.  Sure enough, Monday morning came and it was all slants.  Not sure what was switched with what though.

Yeah the  (Brighton Express) had R68As and the  (West End) had R40 Slants. Then it was switched at some point in the mid-late 90s.

 

Then in 2001, you had:

- Concourse R68s serve both the  (2500-2715)

- Coney Island R68s assigned to the  (2716-2915), with two or three trains on the  (which was mainly assigned R32s and R40S cars)

- The Brighton Express used R40Ms and R40S cars.

- Coney Island R68As to the  (plus one R40S and one R68)

 

Edited December 22, 2023 by darkstar8983

[zacster]

When both sides of the Manhattan Bridge were finally reopened the B Brighton Express ended up with the slants and the Q with the R68s.  Then as the R160s came in the R68/A went to the B and the Q got the R160s, except those were taken off the Q and replaced with what they have now, the R46s which are in terrible shape.  My guess is the next move will be the R160s go on the B and the Q gets the R68 because of 6th Ave CBTC but only when there are enough R211s.

[Bill from Maspeth]

On 12/20/2023 at 1:27 PM, franck combe said:

Thank you for the more detailed informations. 

Go here

nycsubway.org: Main Page

Edited December 26, 2023 by Bill from Maspeth