Donald Posted June 12, 2012 Share #1 Posted June 12, 2012 So I was just wondering how promotion exams work. Are PROBATIIONARY employees eligible to take promotional exams? I know that they cannot actually get promoted while on probation, but can they take the exam? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted June 13, 2012 Share #2 Posted June 13, 2012 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted June 13, 2012 Share #3 Posted June 13, 2012 You can get promoted while on probation but you must resign from your current title, so you won't have a title to go back to if something happens during your probationary period on your new title. That's why it's best to finish your current probationary period so you have a title to fall back to before taking a promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 13, 2012 Share #4 Posted June 13, 2012 You can get promoted while on probation but you must resign from your current title, so you won't have a title to go back to if something happens during your probationary period on your new title. That's why it's best to finish your current probationary period so you have a title to fall back to before taking a promotion. I'm not too sure about that, when the NOE come out check to see how many years you need in tittle first. I know the last TSS promo said that any T/O needed two years in tittle (that's too short or a time but that's for another thread) otherwise they would not qualify. Also, if you resign first, is in really a promotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricknologist Posted June 14, 2012 Share #5 Posted June 14, 2012 According to the NOE for the last TW/O exam: "ELIGIBILITY TO TAKE EXAMINATION: This examination is open to each employee of the New York City Transit Authority who on the date of the multiple-choice test: holds a permanent (not provisional) competitive appointment in or appears on a Preferred List (see Note, below) for the title of Conductor, Station Agent, or Transit Electrical Helper assigned to the Signal Group of the Electrical Department in the Maintenance of Way Division; and is not otherwise ineligible." I guess you can apply for it, but have to be out of probationary status to actually be eligible to take it on the day of the exam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted June 14, 2012 Share #6 Posted June 14, 2012 Thats if the requirments don't change. I think this Tower Exam is nothing more then a money maker. The last Exam they called only acouple of classes with the last class half sent back to thier former titles since Tower Operators been removed from Most A Div locations. Soon Tower Operators will only work the B div and 7 Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted June 18, 2012 Share #7 Posted June 18, 2012 Well I'm taking it anyway, I really have nothing to lose except some $$ from 1 pay check, and it might get me off the road for a while. There may be less TW/O positions open, but many of them just promoted to T/O and I'd wager most of the rest of them took the T/D exam (which I heard was much more catered towards TW/O and ATDs than T/Os), so there WILL be vacancies sooner or later..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted June 23, 2012 I'm definitely going to take the TW/O test mainly since it is a good stepping stone to becoming a T/D. I really want to be a T/D one day, but I want to do it without being a T/O first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted June 24, 2012 Share #9 Posted June 24, 2012 You're gonna be off probation by September? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share #10 Posted June 24, 2012 The head MTA HR guy who writes the exams told us that we can take promotion exams while on probation. But I guess that is not true for all exams because it seems for supervisory jobs like dispatcher and TSS, you must be off probation in order to take the exam. But tower operator is not a supervisory job so I should be able to take it while on probation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapid Transit TO Posted July 21, 2012 Share #11 Posted July 21, 2012 I know the last TSS promo said that any T/O needed two years in tittle (that's too short or a time but that's for another thread) otherwise they would not qualify. Crappy thing in this case, they cash your check, let you sit the test, then send you a 'disqualifier letter' afterword.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted July 22, 2012 Share #12 Posted July 22, 2012 Crappy thing in this case, they cash your check, let you sit the test, then send you a 'disqualifier letter' afterword.. This is why I love PATH, I was there only 4 days and I took the test for conductor. Now I'm just waiting for the class to start in mid August and I'm on the list for engineer too. The best part is that there is no fee for ANY promo test at PATH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted September 5, 2012 Share #13 Posted September 5, 2012 Exam has been postponed. Looks like they finally rounded up enough people to have another class from the old list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will-Bx-718 Posted September 5, 2012 Share #14 Posted September 5, 2012 The head MTA HR guy who writes the exams told us that we can take promotion exams while on probation. But I guess that is not true for all exams because it seems for supervisory jobs like dispatcher and TSS, you must be off probation in order to take the exam. But tower operator is not a supervisory job so I should be able to take it while on probation. Most exams you have to be off probation by the time you're appointed. Some you have to be to take the exam. You just have to read exactly what it says. I'll also be applying for this exam as well as Station Supervisor as well. So TW/O is a management title or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will-Bx-718 Posted September 5, 2012 Share #15 Posted September 5, 2012 Well I guess it doesn't matter because now the exam has been postponed WTF!!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted September 5, 2012 Share #16 Posted September 5, 2012 TW/O is a TWU job, same as C/R and T/O but without the uniform. You report directly to dispatchers, and how much freedom you actually have to make decisions depends on how much supervision trusts you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will-Bx-718 Posted September 5, 2012 Share #17 Posted September 5, 2012 TW/O is a TWU job, same as C/R and T/O but without the uniform. You report directly to dispatchers, and how much freedom you actually have to make decisions depends on how much supervision trusts you. Ok thanx, either it's postponed until further notice so I guess it doesn't matter at the moment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted September 8, 2012 Share #18 Posted September 8, 2012 I believe TW/O is one of the best jobs in transit exept the hours suck on the PM jobs and your days off come with most jobs. Also it's hard to move up seniority wise when they are cutting jobs. I guess the bleeding will stop after they finish the A Div cuts. Last I heard Unionport and Mott will be gone next pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted September 8, 2012 Share #19 Posted September 8, 2012 Interesting note that this weekend ATS is offline for an upgrade, and since most of the A-Div Tower Operators are gone, they're sending console dispatchers from the RCC out to places like Nevins Tower to operate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted September 8, 2012 Author Share #20 Posted September 8, 2012 So anyone they call from the TW/O list will essentially be sent to the B div. and the until they get CBTC up and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted September 9, 2012 Share #21 Posted September 9, 2012 Yeah TW/O and T/D / CTD all making money with 12 hour tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted September 19, 2012 Share #22 Posted September 19, 2012 forget 12 hour splits, 16 hour doubles and reverse doubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share #23 Posted October 1, 2012 I was speaking to a tower operator the other day who works at Jamaica Yard and he said there's no money in towers. Most of the jobs pay a straight 8 and you get 20 minutes for your relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted October 1, 2012 Share #24 Posted October 1, 2012 Then stay a C/R, and get a top pay that's $3/hr less than TW/Os. I'd rather do 8 in a tower than 10 on the road for the same pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share #25 Posted October 1, 2012 With all the tower jobs being cut, you might be staying a C/R whether you want to or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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