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There’s a few mistakes on the Joe Korner page: A. The Shuttle actually has 24 cars, not 12. There are two sets in service, and two in reserve in the yard that have entered service whenever the other sets need maintenance. B. The / has at least four sets of R68’s, if not five, not three (24 cars). I see four distinct sets frequently on my commute. C. Considering no one has ever seen the R68 on the , my guess is it’s on the / . D. Clearly, the does not have 464 cars, that’s obscene. E. Official or not, the is at least 1/3 and at least 1/2 R160 during the weekend, yet there is no mention of it here.

Seven Years Later: (Digs up every “Ohhh. I see” meme there is) ----- This latest door software issue is really, really troublesome.

There are 3 full sets left on the as of this morning. (Saw them all on my commute)

Doesn’t the first test train have to finish the 30 day test first? The R179 failed recently, and the clock was reset again, so if it does have to finish the test first, we might not see it in service for a few months.

Exactly. If this was the Lexington Avenue Line, then this would have been done decades ago, Nassau St is so under-used that there is almost no incentive to renovate it. Bowery can be patched up, but Chambers will need a complete, and I mean complete overhaul (in terms of working platforms and walls). There are puddles on the mezzanines at Chambers that have been present for decades.

They won't do anything substantial other than patch some holes if the current ridership is what's expected.

Nohing is ever eliminated. Money turns heads, and the MTA knows that.

I know that there is a problem with a report due to a sharp curve, but they would be absolutely foolish if they do not do this. It would make no sense to build expensive new tunnels when you have perfectly usable and un-used tunnels a few blocks away. I’d close off the entire Nassau Street line for five years while you completely renovate these dire stations, and then you can re-open it like new.

Day 1!

What happened this time?

They should have taken a look at your avatar, haha.

Looks like the R179’s bullet is easier to photograph. The R160 is totally patchy (circle in-complete, letter grainy) with a camera during the day.

Yeah, that’s a good question. I’ll probably be somewhere along Nassau Street tomorrow evening for the entire train departure bank between 4:55 and 5:45 to catch it.

Not trying to offend your comment, I’m somewhat curious as well, but does it really matter? I’d guess around the same time it started on Sunday, but honestly, it really doesn’t make a difference after it’s first go-around last week.

No, it’s just one test-car for the entire fleet that needs to go 30 consecutive days. I’d assume when the R211’s come in, they might need to do two separate tests for the standard R211 and the articulated one.

That's too bad and all, but it's (way past) go time. If it's so critical that trains can not safely operate, then waste the year trying to fix them, but if it's not, then it's too late.

I wish the never went in on this R179 order. So many headaches and problems, it fails in mere hours after entering a 30 day test, and is getting critics from every angle including inside the . I’m biting back saying “just cancel the damn order” because obviously that’ll never happen at this stage. But this is like a company that is so defective, that you just want to take it behind the bar and shoot it until you can’t see it anymore. What a horrible train.

First off, this is just a tweet from a few days ago that never caught on, that being said I believe this is exactly what rbrome is suggesting. I have absolutely no idea why the MTA Employees would want to nefariously block new cars, but if it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, it’s a duck, and this right here is a duck.

I agree. Luckily announcements can be re-programed, and is not a tangible issue, so it won’t cost much, but it’s an issue nonetheless.

I have objections to this proposal. To sum them up in one sentence, sometimes familiarity works best, and this looks anything but familiar, or practical.

Any guesses on how long it’s going to take to re-start the test? I was hoping to go out and see it today, which obviously won’t be happening. Sunday was such a cold windy day, I decided against it.

No no, this is different. Go back on your video by five seconds, and you’ll notice that “This is a Manhattan Bound “ starts up immediately, like it always has, with “The Next Stop is” following right after. I excused and removed the gap of waiting time in my estimate above, and I still found a 35% increase. Of course, it will not hold up development, but it’s just another bullet point on my extremely long list of cons. (Speaking of which, I really miss that announcement)

Well, that was tweeted out prior to Sunday’s commencement, so while scary, I feel like the MTA thinks they can deal with it.

Ok, I’m going to propose something that is so stupid, I fully understand if you want to shoot it down, but take a look at these clips. First, here is the R142A: (Specifically watch at 1:19 if it doesn’t take you there) Notice how the “This is a” starts immediately when the door opens, maybe before the doors fully open, and “the next stop is” immediately follows without pause. Stand Clear is called, and once Charlie says “Please”, the door starts to close with the fantastic R142A Double Chime. It takes from 1:21 until 1:34 for the train to be in the station, exactly 13 seconds, which is all it should take when there are no crowds. Now watch the R179: (:28) It takes from :29 to :44 just to do the formalities up until stand clear of the closing doors, and from :51 to :56 with the now are door warning chime (it comes before the closing doors) no longer a door closing chime. That’s exactly 20 seconds devoted to announcements, and I’m being generous by excusing the 7 second gap in the middle that held the train. I know one might say I’m making a big deal over a 7 second difference, but the difference between a 13 second announcement and a 20 second one is 35% increase in announcement time, which is a huge unnecessary increase. So, if Bombardier and the MTA can’t get the chime to go with the closing doors, (which they should absolutely do, as it’s an extra indicator to watch the doors as they are closing) you might have to axe the chime for the R179 order. That would cut out 5 seconds, and reduce dwell time to something comparable to the 142 and the 160. Again, option one should be coordinating it with the closing doors, but if they can’t do that, then they might have to consider this.

So, the 179 failed on day one? Is it back today? Edit: Thanks Lawrence St, that's crazy. The R188 made it all 30 days on it's first try. So cheap.