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It would improve reliability of the Q20 local service allowing the MTA to run more buses with the same equipment as in a frequency boost on it's essential portion while dropping the redundant archer ave segment avoiding that area people would have to use the for connections to other buses but then you have a point as main street can get screwed south of main street.

Why not have N73 serve the colleges to add ridership?

OK thanks you have a point.

Alright so what about 10? Is that like every 6 minutes? If so wouldn't the broadway line's issues resolve by routing the through whitehall? Due to short distance the montegue can handle 2 very frequent services that can be one 4th ave local and one 4th ave express.

Good point ok.

Laziness and the fact that nassau could care less.

how frequent is 14 trains per hour?

will there be enough to eliminate the R32s from the ?

I saw many empty N51 buses at NCC.

You raise a very good point.

How many trains per hour can run on the Montague street tunnel?

Or just power up the one remaining service to have frequencies = to the combined line.

that and NICE is out of the NYPD's jurisdiction anyway and the nassau PD could care less. So yeah there is that. Next.

Why you always lying why you is lying? If you want to be taken seriously have the decency to not lie. So a bus with 4 people gets cut and business drops you know your wrong have some integrity. Truth the split was due to extreme unreliability of the N20 and the split means people have an incentive to use the train. He isn't able to save your breath.

Ain't so serious N17 had almost nobody deal with it. They could have a shuttle to the N16 or HTC but that's it. IBM does something similar in westchester with a shuttle for their workers every need can't be solved with NICE. In some cases others have to step up. Very few were impacted by those cuts as severe as they were but NICE didn't send them to useful places resulting in having to drop em. Almost all new route changes start off as a mess as people get used to the changes with the nightmare traffic in queens people chancing it with the N20G were bound to miss connections and the LIRR service is not frequent enough to act like a viable alternative outside off-peak hours when the N20G is on-time(sort of). You have to pick your poison unreliable service east of great neck with huge gaps in service due to hold ups in queens where wait times can sometimes exceed an hour or drop the queens nightmare altogether improve consistency and reliability of east of great neck service but now people who choose to fight traffic with N20G risk missing their connection which means waiting for another 30 minutes. The riders east of great neck benefit from consistent 30 minute service actually improved but at the expense of riders in queens travelling to points east of great neck. Do nothing and ridership east plummets or improve reliability but then force riders in queens to use LIRR when traffic is very bad to have a shot at making their connections either way people lose and win. NICE decided to take a chance on the eastern portion of the route.

to be fair to yuki others do the same thing in other parts of the country I have seen people do this in NJ with NJT to help customers when NJT really screws the pooch. Yuki is not the first nor the last there are many like him just not on these boards being annoying.

The silver lining is that very few relied on those routes.

Hence why the express should stay on it's own track and shouldn't interface which lines have similar problems?

I know which is why subway trains WILL NOT run on the X train ROW only LIRR(south) and MNRR(north) trains with combined frequencies reaching 6TPH or more. Some LIRR Or MNRR or both will link sunnyside to middle village from there LIRR diesels or others would go to bay ridge. The sunnyside to bronx will be MNRR. No subway trains will use that ROW. Only subway there would be subway fare. Question: What are the worst bottlenecks on the train that make it so unreliable?

I noticed that the routes that got eliminated all required at least 2 transfers to get to the nearest major points of interest. N50, 73/74 required 2 transfers to get to the popular nassau hub area which means a very slow ride with transfer time added in. People in those areas do not have the patience to make multiple transfers to reach points of interest. Accessibility to crossways and other employment centers require round-about transfers in hicksville to a bus that is hourly!!! The routes failed and did not adapt nor went directly to any employment centers or reroute or change to meet changing travel patterns. They were nothing more than failed LIRR shuttles utterly useless. In fact the bases they served were so small they couldn't exist and had no business existing as standalone routes for so long after NICE took over.

Look LI residents aren't going to care about a cheap bus ride. Using SCT everyday is actually more expensive than the monthly metrocard. Plus the SCT service expansions were to keep up with increasing demand and improve connectivity. Plus LIRR service in suffolk county is garbage which helps explain the high ridership on the S40 combined with areas not near LIRR served by the S40 as well. Part of the transportation problems in suffolk is actually MTA's fault for arrogance and sub-par service outside the ronkonkoma line. Commuter rail in this country is a huge disaster. No amount of crack would make NICE even consider dropping the N40/41 pigs will fly before a very efficient route like that goes bye bye. It even makes a slight profit. Pay attention there is a reason why NICE added service to the N40/41 and N43 under MTA N43 was much worse.

It is a huge waste of money just like some rail stations that duplicate the subway in south bronx and non transfer points in western queens. In order for this X train to have a chance it must be a rail line with frequent service and get's around the subway limitation. Best way to do that is revive it and add the East bronx stations and then the brooklyn stations then as for trains the trains on the line will run as additional New haven and LIRR trains. The lower part sunnyside to bay ridge via middle village will be LIRR trains from different branches with combined 10 minute frequencies or 8 min 6 TPH or more. Then the northern part the hell's gate line will have Metro-north trains to penn or LIC again and with new M9 abilities to run under and over maybe LIRR but that may not be needed. The new havens will have 6 TPH those going to the bronx transfer at sunnyside. Here is the easy to understand way: X line (north) sunnyside to new rochelle and beyond will have metro-north trains. And X line (south) as in middle village Or sunnyside to bay ridge(via lower montauk to X line) will have LIRR trains serving the corridor transfers will be timed at middle village or sunnyside for those going from brooklyn/queens to the bronx. Also the stations will have fare gates like the subway so ticket collection will begin when LIRR trains reach sunnyside or jamacia en route to LI. For metro-north after co-op city en route to Connecticut. Your is simply already on the MTA's books as the .

SBS lanes don't have to cover the whole route. And I would love for the LIRR Port washington line to have frequent subway like service but fares between queens and nassau would have to drop to levels seen on the metro-north from bronx. And if capacity at penn is lacking then have the extra trains go to LIC hunters point and eventually GCT. And for peak skip stop service similar to the to allow more frequent service. Huh that may actually work out well.

Dude stop defending weak routes. Those SE nassau routes had short run-times and carried air if they pulled an MTA and had other Q36 like routes in nassau cover those routes in eastern nassau even partially ridership in those areas served by N73/74 & 80/81 would have been higher. S42 is a dead horse and needs to be a part of other lines already but it helps that it is very short that is the only thing keeping S42 alive. There was no support for those routes NICE dropped. Interesting thing is NICE would gain alot by dropping flushing(sort of) only if done right. I am curious what other crazy plans worked out? I think Q36 little neck worked out since it had more transfer opportunities than the old Q79 Q27 ect and LIRR and N6. You think N1 can handle going to flushing via clearview and northern by sacrificing jamacia and giving N6 and N6x artics.

LTD stop SBS service with artics probably can. Plus those transferring some may take the LIRR instead as well as Q12 SBS if that came into being.