darkstar8983

Likely they’ll use the R46s for that shuttle then retire them soon as the tracks open up, to leave the R179s and R211s on the mainline train

Or just run the late nights to South Ferry via Local and keep the as an express

How is the suspended for this? The incident happened on 4 Av south of 36 St, so all that would be needed is to send the to 9 Av and the via West End. Trains on the route already on sea beach to be turned at 8 Av and done. I would understand the suspended since it’s part of the and using the trains as extra trains to provide service on the line, but not the .

Shame there’s no way to install that crossover to permit southbound trains from 8 Av to access the Manhattan Bridge - would be very useful for reroutes without having to do the swap in Manhattan and Brooklyn

The train as 6-car R46s I assume had to have the married pair always set on one end of the train to make sure the trains line up with the boards and the stop markers

I’m assuming that at some point, this type of work will shift to the local tracks, leaving one-way express service and one-way local service between 74 St-Broadway and Queensboro Plaza, likely concurrent with the 69 St and 52 St work. And I’m assuming also temporary platforms will be set up at 46 St and 33 St (40 St too, or likely skipped)

They can't turn on CBTC until the base order of R211As are here, and signals can't be ripped out until the R68/R68As leave the . A good start was removing the R68A train trip from the schedule.

Can anyone confirm this new change on the train programs: When biking over the Williamsburg Bridge, I saw an R179 train running to Manhattan in the morning and said - Jamaica Skip-Stop - Broadway Local - Broad St Instead of: - Skip-Stop - Jamaica Exp - Broad St

Ohhh. Didn’t know that. I’ve only seen the west of Roosevelt Av and that’s why I made that comment. Sorry about that

I just had a thought. Observing the ridership trends on Queens Blvd, it doesn’t seem like the train is as full as it could be, but yet service between 6 Av Stations and Brooklyn seems well utilized. Why doesn’t transit consider the following changes 1. Split rush hour service between 96 St/2 Av and Forest Hills-71 Av (keep the 71 Av trips via the 53 St tunnel), so that way each branch runs every 12 minutes during peak times. Midday service can be every 8 minutes (again either split to 96 St and 71 Av), or keep every 10 minutes and all trips to 96 St. Evening service until 10PM to 96 St and run weekend service there too. Night service can stay at Myrtle Av. 2. Swap the during the s Queens Blvd hours of operation then swap the to 63 St all other times. it Just seems that the isn’t as busy and having the service suspended for 7 months showed that the can handle Queens Blvd for the most part with not as much service on that end of the line, but the 6 Av-to-Metropolitan Av section needs at the very least the service it’s getting, if not more.

If the math is properly done and accounting for a proper spare factor for each route and a full length train, there will be just enough cars for all lines in the B division EXCEPT the , with no leftovers. But if the plans for full length trains is put on hold and transit gets a bit tight with spare factors (reduced), then there will be enough cars for the to be upgraded too (since the has the greatest potential to get rerouted to 6 Av, and they can immediately start CBTC work there to have the in their entirety be CBTC by 2030), leaving the as the only routes to host the SMEE trains

The spare factor is too low. All the R46s are needed right now, just to hold down service. Otherwise you’d be seeing daily R160 stints on the Broadway Line for the during the morning rush since the R46s are barely holding on.

Before there were 3 drop-outs (two 59 St trips in addition to the 96 St trip). I think there are less drop-out trips now since midday service is every 8 minutes instead of every 10 minutes, and likely before the service increase, there were trains that get taken out of service at 71 Av as well after the rush hour.

The only has 92 R179 cars - 72 for service (9 trains) and 2.5 trains as spares. It needs 9 R46 trains for the rush hour to supplement AND three R46s switch over from the between rush hours to run on the

Yeah when there are very invasive train reroutes in which a train that normally doesn’t travel through a corridor arrives and runs to the same destination as another train route, people just won’t get on. Classic examples: via Crosstown (makes identical stops the entire way) switcheroo ( via Lexington or via 7 Av)

The platform was closed for 4 months yes but I’m sure work was being done beforehand, AND the ran only on weekdays during the closure. There was no night or weekend train service through the area. But yes 11 months is way too long for a station rehab in ONE direction. Even the ESI stations in Astoria finished faster

So far I think only 1 8-car train was transferred to Coney Island, to allow 1 R68 train to transfer to Concourse. Remember that the train is back in full service so the needs more R46s. It’s about a 60/40 split of R46s to R179s on the since ENY needs their cars again. So we have to wait until some 4200 series R211s hit the tracks before another set of R46s transfers to keep the spare factor high

Probably two work zones: 1. 53 St Tunnel (hence the via 63 St / 6 Av reroute). 2. work at World Trade Center, or the West 4 St switch southbound can’t be used. Northbound there’s likely no work going on, so the can resume regular service via 8 Av after West 4 St

Yeah and people that go to Manhattan have to backtrack to Main St then remain on the local headed to Manhattan. Those needing ADA accessibility can’t take the Super Expresses since they depart from the Express platform at Mets-Willets Point, unless they miraculously catch it at Woodside-61 St (Junction Blvd is skipped)

Yeah the can’t fit any more people on it, but the one advantage of the air train to willets point is the extra space to build the air train without NIMBYs

They should have included a penalty for delays, like they did for the project

Yes and that depends on what’s available for service, what trains need inspections, etc.

Those switches haven’t been in regular weekday rush hour use for 7 months. It’s not enough when switches are used just during certain hours for reroutes

And that doesn’t mean that the train order will alternate between R46 and NTT train (R179/R211). You can get 15 R46s in a row and then a single NTT train, then an additional 7 R46s, and then 20 NTTs in a row, or any mix.

The to 168 St GO was because 8 Av was closed, and the all had to run via 6 Av, with the all sharing the local track between 34 St and W 4 St. The ran via Broadway to Whitehall St. Since the was needed on 6 Av due to the train work, and 3 routes were needed on CPW, they combined the and into the to 168’St and the had to run local in Brooklyn to make room. No more than 15-17 TPH on a single track on weekends.