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I literally cringed when I read your post. Anyway, no. The run up to 10 tph from the Brooklyn end during the AM Rush. The also runs up to 10 tph from the Queens end during the AM Rush. And I’ll leave you with that…

Some of these stubborn idiots don’t even ride, live or work by the and . Just saying a whole bunch of ignorant nonsense out of their asses. Very typical for social media. That’s why. Not to mention the entirety of the IND dates 1930s or before so it’s painfully obvious that it was bound to need a brand new signaling system anyway, yet they still remain so painfully ignorant to this fact and instead continue to keep on repeatedly pushing the whole “the IND is superior to the BMT” or “the BMT is useless” agendas. If that was the case, then the would have never put the R160s on the to begin with. But this topic is about the R211. Not sure where are they getting all this other stuff from…Besides, only one person caused this entire thread to go downhill because that said person thought his pee wee little fantasy idea of having R143s on the would be a great success for no reason. Then the discussion so far was tame. And now we’re getting all this talk about the being useless lines out of complete nowhere because…? I don’t know… Like nobody is disagreeing that the will be getting the R211s. It’s just only one person who said otherwise and kept running his mouth about the R143s possibly being assigned to the and converted from four cars to five cars and blah blah blah nonsense. That is all.

“hIgH rIdErShIP” Stop it with this never-ending stupid narrative. It’s all about replacing aging signals. You know the IND dates back to the 1930s or before. Also, the conversation so far in this thread has been pretty tame for the past few days. You’re the one who keeps bringing it up because you want a reaction. Maybe if you ignore it, then it will die on its own.

No. The is currently timetabled at 5 tph like almost all of the other B Division lines.

So that could partially explain why the was running on a 12 minute headway during the shutdown during the two weekends last month (I forgot the dates). Before back in between April 2019 and May 2020, when the was shutdown, the ran on an 8 minute headway. Also could partially explain why the is now reduced to a 20 minute headway and cut back to 34 St during the shutdown so far as of late. I’ll remember this information. Thanks.

Sigh. So many people here in the transit buff community tend to ignore the real reason why Canarsie, Flushing and now currently the IND are being upgraded is because of aging signals that were eventually bound for replacement. Ridership is part of it, but it’s not the entire reason. But anyways, moving on…

Okay tough guy/keyboard warrior. Lmao. Learn how to handle different opinions.

Sit down kid. Lol. You pointlessly felt the need to reply to my comment after one person said let’s chill out and wait. Lol. I said what I said. Get over it.

Ya’ll say anything. 🙄 This has nothing to do with it being “superior”. This is all about aging signals that are gonna need replacing anyway. The signals on the mainline BMT and mainline IRT will eventually age out and need replacing once signal replacement work on the IND is finish. Are you gonna say that Canarsie and Flushing are “superior” too? Like… 😑 Lawrence St often makes a whole lot of dumb posts in my personal opinion which is why me and him fell out a long time ago. I wish more people would realize that, but whatever floats his and their boats. But anyways, the R211s should only be for the . The do not need them. The leftover 4-car R179s from the should head back to the BMT East to increase service. (Mainly the since right now, it currently runs up to 9 trains between 8 am and 9 am entering Essex St uptown-bound according to its timetable. It should be 12 trains scheduled on that line in that specific location during the AM Rush, not 9 trains. Also maybe add 4 more trains on that line between 7 am and 8 am entering Essex St uptown-bound. Currently, it’s 6 trains scheduled to pass through that station on that line in said direction during said hour according to the timetable. Also maybe add 2 more trains between 9 am and 10 am. Yeah, I know it costs $$$, but I’m just saying when they have enough funds in the future. The during the AM Rush always gets packed before Myrtle-Broadway and stays that way all the way up to Herald Sq/Bryant Park/Rockefeller Center and the two 53 St stations.) The are better off with 5-car R160s.

The sole reason why the IND is getting new equipment is because the IND has the oldest signals in the system dating back to the 1930s and 1940s that are going to be replaced with CBTC anyway. Same happened with the BMT Canarise Line. Same happened with the IRT Flushing Line. The remainder of the BMT and IRT will be the last to receive CBTC years later. The mainline BMT and mainline IRT already received new signals just a couple years before Canarsie and Flushing did. The only difference is that they aren't CBTC, but rather regular wayside instead.

Dude, give up and collect your L. At this point, you’re just spouting out a whole bunch of nothing and repeating yourself while trying to come up with so-called solutions as you go along to try and win. The to and from the Rockaways is staying. Nobody is gonna take a roundabout BS of a route that you’re proposing when the takes you straight into Brooklyn and Manhattan. And Far Rockaway is the busiest in the entire peninsula. Howard Beach-JFK is also another important station along the Rockaway Branch of the . EDIT: And let’s also not forget that there are people during Beach Season that travel from Manhattan and Brooklyn into the Rockaways via the , with a transfer to/from the at Rockaway Blvd. @Trainmaster5 kept giving you an inch but you continue to ask for a mile. Anyways, back to my shell…

Ok good.

Yeah. Same can be said for the R68s and R68As, even though they’re a small fleet on the for the time being.

Prior to the swap, the R46s from Jamaica Yard (currently at Coney Island Yard for the ) were better on the for operational reasons.

Lol you getting pressed over different opinions about your precious R46s. And the R68/As are no better either. But at least the fleets have been consistent for the most part as well as the R68/As being a small fleet on the combined anyways, which is why for the most part, we say R46s. Back off, dude. 🤣🤣🤣

Yeah. Don’t forget about/ignore the though. All of this has to do with CBTC. From what I heard, CBTC is cheaper than a regular brand new wayside signaling system, but who knows if that’s indeed true. 🤷‍♂️ I wonder if there’s another type of signaling system that could have been used instead of CBTC or wayside. But I guess there’s none, so CBTC is left. Anyway, let them continue making love to their precious crappy old cars on the for nostalgia purposes. That’s literally the one and ONLY reason why they love the R46s now compared to before, which makes them total hypocrites. That’s why I lost a lot of respect for the railbuff community. But remember, they’ll be the same ones crying and complaining when their favorite old junk cars retire. I cannot wait to see the looks on their faces. 🤣🤣🤣 At least the R211s will reduce the current car shortage since the R32s and R42s understandably cannot come back, but the will likely be all R68s and R68As (and possibly some leftover R46s alongside them) while everything else in the B Division gets NTTs until the R68s and R68As retire for good (after the R46s). People like you and me who prefer consistency (like the A Division aside from that stupid car swap and the current mix-mash automated announcements nonsense on the ) over a Wallyhorse of a fleet will rest assured as the will eventually go back to more modern cars in the foreseeable future.

At least the A Division is consistent aside from the swap.

You were whining and bitching like a toddler all this time about R46s being lousy at CI for obvious reasons. Now that this new assignment thing has occurred, you’re all ups and arms whenever someone like him protest against this? Only foamers who love this are by those who want to continue getting their precious photos and videos of the old junks on the till they retire. Just because the dealt with old cars for years, doesn’t mean other lines have to. Stuff like this just simply make me wish all the old junks gone. And CBTC just has trains closer together than the current signals do.

@R32 3838, sorry but the 2nd Ave Subway is only three stops. That’s nothing. Plus, the used the opening of said line as an excuse to reduce service during rush hours and I think middays as well. And before the pandemic, the R62As caused lots of delays during rush hours on the due to their narrow doors. Combine that with the reduce headways and it was a award for disaster. Yeah, Flushing needed aging signals replaced with CBTC, but honestly… As for the rest of your post, well, I guess it’s too good to be true. Guess the will have to continue putting up with junky old cars for many more years then. 😑

For the most part, I don’t mind if R160s do indeed head back to Coney Island in the future (keyword: I said if). Honestly, the fact that the R211s are gonna have wider doors shows that they are better off being on lines with more ridership anyway.

Yes. Cars #1587–1591 are the only ones in the entire R62 fleet to feature orange/yellow bench seating. I wish every R62 and R62A had those. I also wish all the half-width cabs on all R62, R62A, R68, and R68A cars were removed to allow for more seats per car. Heck, I even wish they all had the brighter lighting like most of the R62As and most of Coney Island's R46s do as well. As far as why people are fans of the R62s (and/or R62As), I assume it's because of their speed, I guess? They're alright IMO. I still dislike the / swap similar to the R46 / R160 car swap for obvious reasons, though. All of the five-car R160s have CBTC already for Queens Blvd. That's why they did this swap thing. The age of the CBTC system on those cars are still brand new and were made for Queens Blvd unless someone else says anything differently. Otherwise, the would have kept their R160s and the would have stayed mostly to all R46s until they are retired by the R211s.

Let’s see what will become of the fleets in the next year or two. R46s overall suck anyway and I look forward to their eventual retirement in the future. And when they do indeed retire, these buffs will be mad. The same can even be said for the R62As on the I might add.

Okay? But that has nothing to do with my own posts though, so go off I guess lol. I never condone cutting service.

Who said anything about cutting service? Lol this man.

What’s wrong with @trainfan22 lol. This lover boy and anyone else who agree with him simply cannot do math. Also, if Coney Island Yard’s inspectors/maintainers are not capable of handling the R46s, why not assigned those from Jamaica to Coney Island and vice-versa? Jamaica Yard’s maintainers/inspectors have handled the R46s for many years before they were moved out of Jamaica Yard as a whole anyway…